Joe that post wasnt aimed at you BTW it was aimed at the post above yours. Im not arguing that she is a good or bad candiate on the whole or even wether she is a lier on the whole. My point had to do with memory and stress and this issue SPECIFICALLY. I dont think this is a good or fair area to atack her because stress makes memory faulty to start with. I will give a personal example of WHY i am defending this I witnessed a fatal motorcycle MVA and the way i rember it was the cyclist hit the pole, then there was a ripping sound and then his spine came out of his body. However when i spoke with the counciler from the TAC i begain to question all of it except for the injuries and i still to this day cant tell you if the sound i herd was actually the bang as he hit the poll or something unrelated. When i go further back into the incident i cant be sure AT ALL of the sequence of events, did he fall before he hit the tram lines? did he Reve the engine BEFORE or after that? I couldnt tell and that was seconds after the acident. Time is COMPLEATLY screwed up. So I know for a fact how unreliable stress makes memory and if she had alot of advisers telling her that she was going to be shot at then she would have been under alot of stress so i dont think her faulty memory is reason to say she SHOULDNT be president If there are other issues fair enough though
It didn't seem as though she was under stress walking with her daughter out of the plane. I think it's understandable if McCain forgets or "mispeaks" about exactly when he was dodging under bullets because he probably did experience that several times during the war. If she did, at a certain point in her life, experience that and she just recalled the wrong event, then that would be excusable but that doesn't seem to be the case. And another thing. If she was under sooo much stress and worried for her life, why the hell would she bring her daughter?!! IMO, that's even worse than having a lieing president -- one with bad judgement , or one that doesn't care about her kids.
i do have to agree with you there. If the army and the SS were so concerned about the situation why did she bring her daughter there wether she was shot at or not Of course JFK's kids wernt safe driving down the street with him in the middle of the US so maybe she felt there were LESS snipers and guns in general in bosnia than in the US
That's a stretch. The streets of US was & is not exactly a war zone. She lied. She's desperate & unscrupulous and would do anything for power (not like ALL politicians). She stayed married to a lieing cheating husband to get to this point.
From: http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/03/25/2198014.htm The newly-aired footage from the March 1996 trip, on which Senator Clinton was joined by her daughter Chelsea, singer Sheryl Crow and comedian Sinbad, contradicted her own claims to have scurried across the tarmac under gunfire. Reruns of TV reports showed Senator Clinton's party being greeted by smiling officials on the tarmac at Tuzla airbase as it disembarked from a US military plane, and listening as an eight-year-old Bosnian girl read out a poem. "I remember landing under sniper fire. There was supposed to be some kind of a greeting ceremony at the airport, but instead we just ran with our heads down to get into the vehicles to get to our base," Senator Clinton said last week.
What is a lie? Increasingly I have come to believe that we all believe whatever we want to believe. If we unconsciously conned ourselves and then tell our version of the truth, are we lying? That is not the same as remembering a crime scene incorrectly. At the time, Hilary seemed to know that there were no snipers active. Maybe she had been warned about what the plan would be if there was a threat of snipers. Maybe she exaggerated the story a little more every time she told it in order to make it a better story, and then could only remember the how she told the story and could no longer remember the truth. Would that be lying? Unconsciously changing your own version of reality for unconscious (perhaps selfish) reasons is neither misremembering nor lying. It's something else. Are people in denial, lying? If your husband is sexually abusing your daughter and you unconsciously refuse to know what happened and tell others your version of the truth, that your husband did not abuse your daughter, would you be lying?
nirakar that brings up another thing, i have herd stories of people who dont suffer dementia who lose there partner but cant face it. So they pretend to themselves that they are away on buisness or whatever because its to painful to face
What kind of a lie is that? What is the big deal anyway. For one the she knew that there were people with here to dispute any accounts she may lie about. It was a war zone anyway. And lying? They all lie, look at them campaigning and kissing middle class voters asses and what a joke that is...'im gonna do this, im gonna do that' BULLSHIT.
Um no stop! there is no justification for such foolish actions so stop trying to get around it.To use Obama being black being the only reason someone black is voting for him is an absurd assumption which you have no proof,just a biased other sided opinion that causes you to spew assumptions which you could never prove.Assumptions are low forms of knowledge,whether you like it or not,you made an assumption,one that was far from truth being that i was a Hilary supporter just 2 months ago,also being that i spoke that a vote for someone because of gender or race is beyond foolish.Take a seat.
Hillary was just following Taqiyya. http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=79114 Obviously a closet Muslim. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! And all this time they thought it was Obama
I dont care what you think you see,what you will NOT do is harass me with your pathethic assumptions.Understood? Take a seat
dude chill. Assumption is an assumption. Mine was proven wrong since you stated that you dont prefer Obama because he is black. South Caroliners would probably say the same thing as well.
lol, bullets and questions. I'd tell you even more about how much I like it but I'm under heavy sniper fire atm.
I saw GI Hillary on news this evening. It was interesting to hear her rage against the "special interests". This is quite a contrast from earlier in the campaign when she was defending special interests and refused to stop taking money from them. This is just another in a long series of flip flops for Hillary and all within months of each other. So it appears her memory is not only bad about being in combat, but also of positions she took just days and months previously.
