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Discussion in 'Politics' started by sandy, Feb 11, 2008.

  1. Mr.Spock Back from the dead Valued Senior Member

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    you said he wasnt a threat and now the onus is on me? aint that a laugh.
     
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  3. Mr.Spock Back from the dead Valued Senior Member

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    so who cares what they said.
     
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  5. Arsalan Registered Senior Member

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    Fact of the matter is that the US has its freedom to thank to those "colonial terrorists" who dared to fight against "overseas occupiers" as it were. Because of those terrorists the US has its freedom. IRaqis are fighting the same war for their own country. They dont want their country taken from them and sold to the highest bidder. And the UN allows for an occupied country to fight back so the IRaqis who are fighting back are doing it all legally as well
     
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  7. Arsalan Registered Senior Member

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    the burden of proof is on the person claiming something is true. Im saying its not true while you are saying it is. Therefore the burden of proof is on you.
     
  8. shichimenshyo Caught in the machine Registered Senior Member

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    The problem with that analogy lies in the fact that the US terrorists back in the day didnt murder their own people on a daily basis.
     
  9. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    You missed the murder of the native Americans, both who supported the British as well as those who did not. Or aren't they considered Americans?

    Also what was the fate of the Loyalists?
     
  10. Arsalan Registered Senior Member

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    Nah, they were the savages and brutes who didnt have a right to their own land according to US history.
     
  11. shichimenshyo Caught in the machine Registered Senior Member

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    No, not in this case. although I do see your point.
     
  12. Arsalan Registered Senior Member

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    Except if you were a traitor to the terrorist cause and helped the British in some way

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  13. Mr.Spock Back from the dead Valued Senior Member

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    the iraqis are fighting for sharia law. hardly freedom. you have any idea the consequences of that? if the US leaves and theyll succeed?
     
  14. Arsalan Registered Senior Member

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    btw sam, you really need to read the Shock Doctrine by Naomi Klein. I just know youll love it.
     
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  15. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    What happened to the Loyalists? Didn't the "patriots" fight them?
     
  16. Arsalan Registered Senior Member

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    Are they now? Is that what they say? Strange that the majority of IRaqis just want their land back and thats why they resist the occupation. You are wrong. Otherwise, prove it.
     
  17. Mr.Spock Back from the dead Valued Senior Member

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    you said saddam was not a threat on the US. i suppose you base that fact on something? if someones doesnt proof he is a threat, it doesnt mean you can say he isnt as a fact.
     
  18. goofyfish Analog By Birth, Digital By Design Valued Senior Member

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    Or if you lived in North Carolina where General Griffith Rutherford
    regularly called out the militia against supposed British supporters.

    :m: Peace.
     
  19. Mr.Spock Back from the dead Valued Senior Member

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    yeas defiantly that is what they say. in iraq and Afghanistan.
     
  20. Arsalan Registered Senior Member

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    Burden on proof is on someone saying something is true. Im saying its not. You are saying it is. Therefore it is on you. Have fun

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  21. goofyfish Analog By Birth, Digital By Design Valued Senior Member

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    Well... then I guess you are a threat to the United States.
    If you say you are not, please provide your proof.

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    Peace.
     
  22. Arsalan Registered Senior Member

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    Prove it please. Prove that the majority of Iraqis dont just want to go back to how their country was. WHen they didnt have to fear high prices, their water sold to companies selling it back to them for outrages prices, when they could walk the streets without fear of mistakenly being bombed or shot at for looking like terrorists....
     
  23. Mr.Spock Back from the dead Valued Senior Member

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    thats nonsense. you said something as fact, you have not said what you base it on other then it is not proven he was a threat-to your opinion of course.

    i have not said that he was. it is you who said he wasnt.
     

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