Saudi's jail woman for coffee drinking @ Starbucks

Agreed. When I got home frm Saudi, I said very little about life there because I did not expect to be believed.

 

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I was good friends with two Saudis for almost 5 years. One was a black Saudi woman who was a nurse and one a white Saudi guy who was officially an Xray technician but unofficially helped me out with Arabic and paperwork in my department.

After the initial awkward cultural phase, we became very good friends.

 

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you lived in the KSA????????????????

man........ unlucky.........

this is why the war on terror is fucked up, cos surely they would check where all the money and ideology comes from first, with the west' inability to do anything against the hous eof Saud, just shows they are not serious about the war onterror but are waging a war of teror and that the war on teror is just a smoke screen for political and economic gain.

 

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Let me get this straight: if you were in a coffee shop in KSA, and I just happened to walk in and see you, and said: "Hey, Sam! How's it going?" And then I proceeded to sit next to you and chat over coffee, you would be arrested, and nothing would happen to me?

 

I think you have misunderstood SAM/. She said the complete opposite to me when I criticized sharia based on a book I bought in Saudi.She, in effect. suggested that Saudi was not a Muslim country in the strict sense of the word. It's ironic that, at the time, one of the things I mentioned was the relogious police carrying long sticks which they used to hit any woman not "properely" attired.

 

I spent six monts there on a work-related assignment. It seemed like six years.

 

hey Myles,

i was actually thinking Doc lou was being funny!!!

thats why i laughed, because we know SAM doesnt agree with the KSA..

 

Who does she agree with?

 

You've got it. A woman must not be i the company of a male who is not a relative, unless she is accompnied by a chaperone. SAM is taking a rosy view. I found individual Saudis I met on a day-to -day basis no different from poeople anywhere else I have been. The problem lies in the way the Kingdom is ruled .

 

It would depend where you were, I think. I went to Taif, Mecca, Riyadh and Jeddah. We went for meals with our designated drivers, who anyway did not sit with us. But several times we had meals with other people who were obviously Indians, once with a couple I knew who were Sri Lankan/Moroccan at a beach in Jeddah, no hassles.

But I would assume in places like al Gharia or al Ghassim where muttawas run amok, both of us would be in deep shit. As Muslims, that is.

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Not certain what the policy is towards non-Muslims.

 

couldnt you just lie and say you werent a muslim

 

Most places you go to they will leave tourists throwing around plenty of cash alone.

 

Alright, I see what you mean.

My uncle told me after he came back from Hajj that police in Saudi Arabia have lots of power and control over people, and usually get away with whatever they want. He said that being a police officer is what lots of people strive for over there.

Not so sure how true that is, but the country does kind of seem like it's run by lots of strict authorities in order to enforce bizarre laws.

 

Thats what I'm saying

Uh no everyone has an iqama, which is the equivalent of an ID.

I actually found the cops to be pretty cool there. Had a friend who was a cop.

 

more interstingly is why is Starbucks allowed to operate in the fuckin KSA.

bunch of hypocritical fuckas they are

 

oh bullocks.......... iot was just a thoguht anyway.........

aresholes!!!

 

Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. Why do they have an American company on their soil?

 

its not just that mate i read on a saudi website (cant remeber what one) and on a fe w other websites, that the Starbucks chairman or president or whatever gives a lot fo the profits star bucks makes to the fuckin IDF.. It was actually in an open letter from the president or whatever

 

but then again that could just be a myth

 

Well, the CEO of Starbucks is Howard Schultz (spelling?), who has called himself an active Zionist.