invert_nexus nope you're wrong in that one taking the physical make up of life and the physical make up of an environmental factor amounts to zilch unless the physical thing is actually alive since life itself cannot be determined on a molecular level, you are speaking something other than strict science “
really? Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! well than try to come close to it, death. And than we will see what you have to say about it than. You must be enjoying your life, don't worry it will come to end ...
The problem comes when you try to decide exactly when you can say something is alive or not. You get down to a certain level and the boundary is quite blurry. The definition of life that you are using is vague and nonuseful for scientific inquiry. The processes of life take place at the molecular level. Just because your emerged consciousness exists many levels higher doesn't take away from the fact that you are a mere side effect of a great and secret show where the parts are played by molecules. Then tell me what the difference between a dead virus and a living virus is. What's a dead virus? Consciousness is one of many emergent qualities that are possible to be derived from the processes of life. It has nothing to do with abiogenesis which would have taken place many levels down. The magic of tRNA isn't in a delicacy of construction. It's actually quite simple. The magic is in the code. In the evolution of a consistent code which can transfer the information stored in DNA to the creation of a chain of amino acids. That's the magic. Now, the ribosome on the other hand... that's complexity. It's likely that the first living thing was a ribozyme. A self-translating piece of RNA.