lack belief vs evidence

I brake for a kid I believe will follow the ball. Reagrdless of the last n times no kid followed a ball.
Whats the problem?

 

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Nice.. I'm being ignored.. :bugeye:

One last try then.

As I am but a dumb atheist, can you break it down for me why the following is wrong ?

<> Belief is to assume something despite lack of evidence or evidence to the contrary.
<> Lack of belief is not to assume something because of lack of evidence for it or because of evidence to the contrary.

Pretty please.. ?

 

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Yes, as we all do. But you are categorizing it as a fact that a kid (or something) will follow. You may assume that something is following, which is good, but it's not a fact that something is following. It's a guess at what might be. How do facts come into it?

 

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I'm not ignoring you enmos. :wave:

 

Objectively I could do trial and error, if 3x no kid after ball, hence objectively no need to brake. Similarly I could calculate statistics to determine if I should brake or not.

However, I will dump all objectivity and simply brake.

What is the best option? What should my guess be?

 

No, but SAM is.. :bawl:

 

What does this have to do with the nature of facts vs beliefs and assumptions??? :runaway:

 

Belief is to assume facts not in evidence/

lack of belief is a non sequitur

 

I'm defining belief. :bugeye:

Now use the same example and define to me what lack of belief would be in the same situation.

 

I asked you to break it down, not state your own definitions.

 

I don't know how not to assume facts not in evidence.:shrug:

 

You don't know how not to assume facts that lack evidence ???? Why assume them ?

 

Lack of belief? Hmmm... Let's see.

I (like you) generally believe that there is a high likelyhood of a kid following a ball into the street. It's happened to me many a time. It's logical. A complete lack of belief in this situation would be akin to you telling me that an elephant might be following. I have no evidence that there are even elephants at large in my city, let alone that they chase balls into the street.

Yes?

 

Err... what? :wtf:

 

SAM I don't think this is one of your better days.. :shrug:

 

So you brake for every ball? You are sure there may be something following?

What if everytime you brake nothing follows.

Do you lack belief because facts are not in evidence?

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Of course!

I'd still brake, because I'm an intelligent human being that has a grasp of the sequential nature of kids playing with balls and chasing them.

Are you asking what I'd do if I had never seen a child (god), or a ball (gods works), and had no idea how balls could get ito the street (no physical mechanisms for superstitious bullshit)? Then I'd have a complete lack of belief in the situation. Of course.

In part, of course. But more to the point is that there is zero compelling evidence that thing X exists. How can this be confusing?

 

sam, you lack belief in the FSM why? Because there are no supporting facts in evidence?

Or do you believe in the FSM? :bugeye:

 

Ah so you're saying if you had driven for 20 years and never seen a ball followed by a kid, you would not brake if you saw one?

 

No! READ FFS!

I've still seen kids playing with balls and can easily make the sequential connection.

I think you must be tired sam. I'll see ya tomorrow. 'nite.