How many living organisms have populated the Earth?

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  1. John99 Banned Banned

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    All life, including plants. This is crucial to my research.
     
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  3. dexter ROOT Registered Senior Member

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    Biollions. Trillions. A lot.
     
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  5. Read-Only Valued Senior Member

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    What possible research could that be?

    The question is completely unanswerable - there are untold giga-trillions of microscopic lifeforms present at any given moment. And a single collection of millions of them can reproduce many times over in just a few hours.

    You're chasing a ghost number with this.
     
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  7. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    You mean all organisms that ever lived added up ?

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  8. Read-Only Valued Senior Member

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    No matter how you look at it - current or grand total of all time - the question is rather senseless. Besides, it changes every single second of every minute. There's no way to even make a guess at such a thing, let alone provide any sort of meaningful number.
     
  9. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Yeah, I wonder how someone can even get it in his head to ask such a question.. .:scratchin:
     
  10. redarmy11 Registered Senior Member

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    Oh, it's fairly easy when you're John99, the human 404 error. Life motto: "Page not found."
     
  11. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    The current biomass of earth is something like 75 billion tons.
    If we assume that biomass had a roughly constant growth from the day life first appeared (which it didn't) then we get something like 138.75 billion billion tons of biomass (37.5 billion tons * 3.7 billion years).
    We have to know the inclination and when it roughly stopped and got to be a more or less horizontal line. We also have to do with with something like great extinctions along the way..

    For a more accurate estimation we will have to know the biomass of the earth at a huge number of points in history. Then if we actually would know the average biomass per creature at each of those points, we could make a rough estimation of how many creatures ever lived.

    Needless to say, this can't be done.
     
  12. tablariddim forexU2 Valued Senior Member

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    ditto ditto ditto
     
  13. Read-Only Valued Senior Member

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    Aarrg! I didn't even bother to see who posted it - I just read the question and made a response.:shrug:

    OK, that settles it, I'm done here.
     
  14. John99 Banned Banned

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    What a bunch of googlebots.

    To be clear i am interested in know how many different species have been identified. This should encompass all facets of life. Land and sea creatures, plants and animals and simple life forms included.

    Occurring naturally of course, not hybridisation:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/5080298.stm

    For example-

    Here is 24:

    http://cdserver2.ru.ac.za/cd/011120_1/Aqua/Ichthyology/Ichthyology/fish_i1.jpg

    And:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pomacentridae
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dascyllus
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clownfish

    Pomacentridae number over 350 species.

    As it is now clearly stated, where can i find this number?

    The grey area is some species readily inter-mate while others do not. Be that as it may one Japanese human and one African human will count as two since we only have to look at them to tell them apart. No philosophy involved or personal opinion is necessary.
     
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  15. Reiku Banned Banned

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    Perhaps around 150 trillion?
     
  16. redarmy11 Registered Senior Member

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    I think if you look really hard you'll find that they're actually the same species.
     
  17. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    It was just a few years ago we found the things living near the midocean vents.

    Meanwhile, no one has ever made a complete census of the species living in a cubic meter of meadow soil anywhere on the planet.

    Let alone classified all the color variants as different "organisms".

    Somehow I get the feeling this is going to come round to some kind of Biblical "scholarship". I'm going to wait until it does, and I'll will have a better idea of how to answer it.
     
  18. orcot Valued Senior Member

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    Add a other 5 zero's
     
  19. Reiku Banned Banned

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    Do you think? Really?
     
  20. Hipparchia Registered Senior Member

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    Thank you for making this clear. Your initial question definitely asked for number of living organisms, that is the number of individuals, so I was a bit confused.

    Your clarified question is also, I think, rather meaningless. I'm not being critical - I mean meaningless to me. Often the distinction between species is a bit arbitrary. If we look at a lineage over time the point where we distinguish between one species and another is definitely arbitrary. You could produce two answers to your question that were both fully justifiable and correct, yet were completely different in magnitude. That's what I mean by saying it is meaningless.

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    Could I ask what is the nature of your research? That might make it easier to give a meaningful answer.
     
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  21. John99 Banned Banned

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    Thanks for most of the reponses. Unfortunately i lost my origianl post cause i got timed out and its gone.
     

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