University: All Whites Racist

Do you still basically get extra points towards admission for not being white in the american university system?

 

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I don't think that's the official policy any more, but the alter of "diversity" and "multiculturalism" still runs strongs in the thoroughly Marxist college and university systems in the states. That is, if you come from a certain background, have a certain name or certain skin tone, you will probably be selected ahead of a white male with similar grades and test scores. This is even true in the workplace, in particular with the American government. They even have minority outreach programs at places like the NSA and CIA.

 

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It's the same in the place I work. On a poster on the wall I am absolutely 100% sure they have made sure to have included a smiling face from one of every ethnic minority they could possibly think of so their asses don't get sued.

 

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We are not all the same and rest assured this university isn't going to tell people that "minorities" are racist as well or that blacks commit 90% of interracial crime.

 

The company I work for has a motto that's attached to all memos, "We value a diverse workplace!"

Although they don't have specific quotas of whom I should have, the guideline is: my staff needs to look like the community it serves (which I agree with and let's face it, we're bound to do better business if the community sees us as part of it). My store is in a community that is roughly 20% black, 30% Hispanic, 40% white, 10% mixed & other. Recently, though, my visiting HR-VP told me that I didn't have enough blacks working at my store and that I should, at the very least, be hiring the same percentage of the race that applies (i.e. if 50% of my applicants are Asian, then I better higher 50% Asian). The only issue is this: I have no way of knowing the race of people when they apply beyond the obvious stereotypical names (I've never met a white LaShonda or a black Trevor). So, now I and my fellow managers (luckily one is black two are Hispanic) are forced to hire people that we truly don't find capable of doing the job, passing up people we think would be solid employees, which is the height of stupidity.

~String

 

If that's not racism then what is?

 

Personally, String, I don't care who sells me what I want in a store. The job of most retail employees is functionary, and so long as they perform the function I could care less about their background.

An interesting excercise would be to flip your proscription, which I know is not really "yours," and apply it to a suburban setting. If suburban whites go to Wendy's or Target or something, do they expect/want to see other suburban whites handing them their fries or assisting them with durable goods?

 

Heavens NO, Counte! That would be racism!

~String

 

That's bullshit. You actually do it? That's the kind of idiotic crap I'd ignore. How would your VP know what percent of each race applied for jobs? Perhaps you should ask the VP if you could add a section on the employment application for race so that you could better impliment his race based hiring scheme. Although I'm pretty sure that would be illegal.

 

I usually make a point to tick the "other" or "don't wish to say" boxes on that bit in forms. It's just pure racism.

 

Well, I have to look out for my job (which, for the most part, I love). It pays the mortgage and the car loan... oh, and there's my cable Internet, credit cards and that pesky digital cable + DVR. Um... gotta keep the job, so I do what I'm told... to a point.

I hire the best that I can, I pay special attention to minorities (always looking for ways to attract qualified minorities-- especially promoting a black person ['secially a woman] is like wearing a gold badge at my company)... but for the most part, I hire people who are qualified, but sometimes to do what I'm told, I have to hire people who fit a demographic demand at my company.

It blows, but it's what they demand.

~String

 

Well, of course I wouldn't want you to lose your job. Do you think they are really serious about this crap?

Would they be happier if your branch did not exactly mirror your community yet was extremely profitable as you had hired only the best. Or if you had the exact right racial makeup for your branch,but were losing money?

I've generally found corporations to be pretty forgiving so long as you're making money; and that all the "rainbow coalition" mamsy pamsy crap doesn't mean shit if you're not making money.

So cover your ass. Be on the lookout for quality minority applicants. But don't screw yourself with some piece of crap employee just to fill a racial quota.

I remember I once worked with this black guy, who was also gay. He was really a nice guy, but a really slow worker. Despite the fact that this company fired people left and right, he never did get fired. After all, he was a two-fer.

 

No go, String

I generally find arguments intending to assert affirmative action on behalf of racism and the exercise of politics in lieu of education repugnant, and your argument is no different, String. It seems to me that you're asserting that, just because they're a public university, they ought to lower their standards in order to make insecure bigots more comfortable. You agree that a public institution cannot make everyone happy, so you assert, instead, that they should make you happy. The problem with this is that your happiness depends on the university's endorsement of crap or refusal to examine basic truths. Neither of those conditions suggest quality education.

Oh, boo-hoo. I can't believe you think it's brainwashing that a university rejects political myopia. So it's harder to write a paper that says Africa is poor because blacks are inferior. It's harder to write a paper that says people are poor because they deserve to be. It's harder to write a paper that says people are inferior because they're not like you. Oh, those poor students are so oppressed.

Ah. Well, that's a problem for your own pride to figure out. Maybe offended racists should hold a parade to celebrate their identity.

What is it with you conservatives (oh, right, you're "not a conservative" ... chortle!) and affirmative action?

Actually, what that last parenthetic note suggests is not that you're a horrible racist, but that you're a jerk who refuses to take the situation seriously.

Seriously, I think you're aware that there is more to any one person's life than the range of a school district. What you're asserting requires a leap of logic akin to the idea that, since four square centimeters of your skin are clear of festering wounds, you must be cured of chicken pox.

You conservatives make this leap so often people are starting to resent it. This is one of those things where the only time I hear about it is when conservatives are attempting to describe something they don't like.

So tell me, String: where do we begin? It is, after all, an arbitrary point. So why don't we begin in Shaker Heights in the last decade, and that way you conservatives can pretend that there has always been economic parity, and get back to blaming the black people for not being white?

 

I think he's just calling for fairness, which is nowhere an issue in your processes apparently.

No That's a University administration Projecting it's own Myopia.

It's already Politically untenable to write such a paper even if True.
The authors would be, and in fact have been savaged for such.. such as on IQ.

I would point to a growing Black movement that points accurately to black's plight being their own fault and needing to take Responsibility instead of Whining "Prejudice".
Most recognizable name, Bill Cosby among others.

EDIT:::
I also posted Shelby Steele http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=72621 which the other Leftist Brownshirts here Locked the string on.

Calling truthful/non-PC people Racists is obviously a Problem you have, not him.

How so? I find this part of his comment followed by the parenthetical very accurate.
You don't rebut a single thing
Just call him a racist again.
Pretty pathetic.

Why don't we begin with the unvarnished truth superstring posted (this is 'sci'forums, not PCforums) and You didn't touch- Just called/categozized everything he said "Racist".

 

You know Tiassa, I'm glad you wasted your precious time writing another one of your yawn-fest diatribes, I'm sure, blaming my shortsightedness, conservative whining... blah....blah.... blah. And If I had even a scrap of respect for what you puke out onto the screen I might even bother reading.

And, I'm sure it's to my own detriment that I missed out on all your cutting and insightful remarks, but... alas, you are hardly worth my time.

Carry on.

~String

 

Is that from the Fourth Reich?

 

String, you might be gay, and I might not ordinarily like gays, but with that post, you came waaaaayyyy up on my checklist. No, I still don't like gays, but you're now disliked a lot less than before!

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PS - Don't go spreading that around all over the sciforums now, okay?

 

superstring:

Welcome to the club. I think the vast majority of posters (including the hard left wingers) ignore Tiassa's drivel. He's more fluff than anything else.

Edit: By the way, Tiassa's post, as usual, contains numerous personal insults. I suggest that everyone report it, instead of adopting the 'oh, the mods won't do anything if I report'. You're probably right, but at least James R can't use the bullshit excuse 'their posts are never reported' when his mods are placed in the spotlight.

 

Amen. I didn't read that rot after the flavor I ascertained from the first few lines. It seems Tiassa has swallowed the multiculturalism myth (and its Orwellian and Marxist enforcements methods) hook, line and sinker. No point in reading that swill.

It was my understanding that moderators could not be carded or reported for their remarks. If that's not the case, then I have about a dozen threads I could point to so far as this person is concerned. But why whine about it? He/she/ is not going to change. Ignoring him/her is a much more effective.

 

Of course he won't change! He's pretty much immune to any punishment, being a long standing member and moderator. Apparently those in charge think he's the pillar which holds sciforums up, or some shit like that.

But if no one points out this bullshit, the other moderators and administrators will keep touting their catchphrase 'Well, no one else has complained! X is hardly ever reported for bad behaviour!" At least they can't feign ignorance if we all call certain mods on their very unmod like behaviour.