Blacks Less Intelligent Than Whites?

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Is Watson Right, Are Blacks Less Intelligent Than Whites?

  1. Yes, Watson is Right, Whites are More Intelligent

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  2. No, Watson is Wrong, Blacks are More Intelligent

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  3. No, Watson is Jumping the Gun, there is No Evidence Pointing Either Way

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  4. What is "Intelligence?"

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  5. No, Watson is wrong. Whites and blacks are equally intelligent.

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  1. Exhumed Self ******. Registered Senior Member

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    Would you point out some examples of that in this thread, specifically?
     
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  3. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    Easy ....read the thread. And if you can't pick 'em out easily, too, then you must be one of those liberal doo-gooders who hide behind that dogma of human "equality".

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  5. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    It would be more useful to first have a standardised method that was universally applicable. It would be even more useful to know what exactly we are measuring. If it is merely the ability to complete an IQ test in your native language, thats fine.

    Other than that, generalisations based on correlations are just that.

    Another example:
    That also applies to the risk factor for colon disease associated with a Taq polymorphism. It does not, in any way, mean anything, other than an association of a Taq polymorphism with colon cancer, unless you can indicate a cause-effect mechanism.

    Physicists pretending to understand biology.
     
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  7. superluminal I am MalcomR Valued Senior Member

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    Now you're not finishing your thoughts two posts at a time. Funny!
     
  8. Exhumed Self ******. Registered Senior Member

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    Could you do it for me? I'm lazy.
     
  9. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    I never stop thinking :shrug:
     
  10. superluminal I am MalcomR Valued Senior Member

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    I completely agree.

    I super-completely agree.

    I super-duper-completely agree.

    I think we're past the argument about whether there really is a correllatable difference either way (at least I am). The argument now is about the value of actual research into the question and whether it should be summarily disallowed based on some liberal PC conception of racial or intergroup sensitivity. Do we need a group hug now?
     
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    Are Whites Less Intelligent Than Asians?
     
  12. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    No problem with that. As long as its clear what exactly we are researching. Unfortunately, there are a lot of people who look at a graph and pretend they understand what the data means.
     
  13. peta9 Registered Senior Member

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    Probably a different type of intelligence. Culture influences not just your intelligence but how your intelligence takes shape.
     
  14. superluminal I am MalcomR Valued Senior Member

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    Right. The masses are ignorant. And some not-so-ignorant could use it to forward an agenda, right? Just like they always have. Do you know the extent to which darwinian evolution was and is still used to support eugenic and racial superiority ideas? Idiotic. It's just a factually supported theory regarding how organisims evolve through natural selection. That's it.
     
  15. superluminal I am MalcomR Valued Senior Member

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    IMO that's a very accurate general statement given what we currently (and limitedly) understand "intelligence" to be.

    (is "limitedly" a word? :shrug

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  16. peta9 Registered Senior Member

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    I see the light and you people don't. Pfft!

    This is boring. Who cares about intelligence. We just need more hot men and women and lots of entertainment so we can be happy and have world peace to fill up our time when we're not hibernating, eating, and defecating. There is too much bitching. LOL.
     
  17. superluminal I am MalcomR Valued Senior Member

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    Right on brotha! Testify!
     
  18. Carcano Valued Senior Member

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    They actually do significantly better on western designed IQ tests...debunking the idea that tests are culturally biased towards europeans and americans.

    Intelligence shapes culture in fundamental ways.
    Simply compare the cultures of Homo Erectus and Homo Sapiens.
     
  19. Carcano Valued Senior Member

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    Thats correct.

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    Even Dawkins has no evolutionary explanation for his own high ethical standards, and has admitted as such on video during a lecture in Virginia.

    He goes around the world trying to convince people that all human behaviour is determined by genetic programming geared towards the optimal survival and reproduction of gene pools...in the style of ant colonies.

    And yet he admits that this cannot explain even his own thoughts, emotion, and behaviour.

    Nevermind all the other elements I mentioned.
     
  20. superluminal I am MalcomR Valued Senior Member

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    Entirely untrue.
     
  21. Count Sudoku Banned Banned

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    [Racist website link removed]

    IS SCIENCE HATRED or IS IT REALITY ?
    THE BIOLOGICAL DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE RACES

    A race is a major division of the human species. Its members, though differing from one another in many minor respects, are nevertheless, as a whole, distinguished by a particular combination of features, principally non-adaptive, which they have inherited from ancestors alike as they are themselves. These distinguishing features are most apparent in body, where they are both structural and measurable, but manifest themselves also in innate capacity for intellectual and emotional development as well as temperament and character.

    It is not hatred to state these biological facts that the White race possesses more intellectual capability than the other races any more than it is hatred to state that humans possess more intellectual capability than animals and some animals possess more intellectual capability than other animals. Science has nothing to do with hatred, but with reality.
     
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  22. peta9 Registered Senior Member

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    That would seem so for "some" of your people for 'now'. Evolution does not stop for anyone.
     
  23. madanthonywayne Morning in America Registered Senior Member

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    Agreed. But that's the thread topic. I think it's silly to get all worked up about it. Blacks have darker skin, they have an increased risk of sickle cell anemia, diabetes, and glaucoma. They also seem to worse on standardized tests (on average). Pretending that's not true doesn't make it so.
    It doesn't make my day at all. Any more than the fact that whites are at increased risk for macular degeneration and Asians are at an increased risk for narrow angle glaucoma.

    Certain traits vary by race. It's a fact. Why must you assign sinister motives to someone for recognizing that?
     
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