More Scientific Nonsense

Discussion in 'Science & Society' started by Atom, Oct 17, 2007.

  1. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    Hmm, if that's the case, then there can't be any such thing as "racism".

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  3. draqon Banned Banned

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    In biological terms there are different human races. In social terms these differences are being erased or rather covered up by lies for the sake of peace.
     
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  5. superluminal I am MalcomR Valued Senior Member

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    Well, I've heard this before and that's fine. Someone needs to disseminate this viewpoint to the general public. Why do you think we have these artificial distinctions anyway?
     
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  7. superluminal I am MalcomR Valued Senior Member

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    Ok then. This could be true too. What do you make of such a situatiuon?
     
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  9. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    Well, they're not being covered up if the news is any indication. What it is, I think, is an attempt at social brainwashing. Or more to the point, we're asked to stick our heads in the sand when we see some human that's different.

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  10. superluminal I am MalcomR Valued Senior Member

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    Don't know if this has been mentioned, but we're programmed by our DNA to be racist. It takes a conscious effort to overcome our fundamental distrust of those that "aren't us". It serves a number of purposes that were very beneficial to our evolutionary ancestors.

    For better or worse, small groups of humans have always competed for territory, mates, and other resources. Those who clearly are more related to you probably share more of your genetic heritage than those that are more different. Your genes make "survival machines" (that's you and me) that maximize their own success and that of closely related genes.

    So, those with more pronounced differences are even less likely to gain our sympathy. And rightly so, from a genes point of view.

    So, where does this leave our modern sensibilities regarding our fellow humans?
     
  11. DeepThought Banned Banned

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    Its about control.

    It's typical of the way Europeans try to impose peace upon the world through rational order instead of letting it come to a natural equilibrium.

    The pressure will build up and eventually things will explode again. This is why we need a more organic approach to race and culture.
     
  12. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    "but we're programmed by our DNA to be racist"

    Did Freud tell you that?

    Have you heard of endogamy?

    I think racism is a sign that the group has been selected against.


    Hence they intermarry and breed themselves out.
     
  13. superluminal I am MalcomR Valued Senior Member

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    Oh go and bite me, she-shell.

    But it's not about group selection, ans you know. It's about single genes vying for survival. I think I'm right and you're not.
     
  14. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Yeah, look at all the single genes that have survived the primordial goop.

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    Hybridisation and symbiosis. Check out your mitochondria, go take a look at the chloroplast. Now imagine either of them protecting themselves. Duh!
     
  15. Roman Banned Banned

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    Except... not. Humans have very little genetic differences, compared to other species, as we're relatively new, and our population exploded in a relatively short period. So matings between disparate groups aren't terrifically important, as we've all got more or less the same shit anyway.

    There's a lot of evidence that people are incredibly easy to turn into competing groups that hate each other for entirely superficial reasons- the only reason they oppose each other is because they're not each other.

    My favorite was this one where they had kids make dots on a piece of paper. They then arbitrarily divided the children up based on dot patterns (a random evaluation). They then had the kids do a thing where they could give money to other kids without the other kid knowing about it. They could share the money however they liked, with whomever they liked. The sharer, of course, incurred no cost at sharing the money.

    Guess who the kids shared their money with the most?
    Those who had similar dot patterns.
    Really, wtf.

    Also, see soccer hooliganism. And highschool.

    People are totally wired for in-group/out-group thinking.
     
  16. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Specialisation is for insects.

    I suggest you look up the Parsis
     
  17. superluminal I am MalcomR Valued Senior Member

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    Sam, if you were in Egypt, I'd say you were in denial.
     
  18. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    Nope, it's just more proof that human males will fuck anything with a warm, wet hole! But they also aren't much interested in the consequences, hence so many mixed-breed, single-parent kids in the world.

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  19. Roman Banned Banned

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    Where did this come from?

    Specialization is also for capitalists. It's the basis of all symbioses.
     
  20. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    A quote I read once"
     
  21. superluminal I am MalcomR Valued Senior Member

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    Raiding of neighboring groups for females is common in competing groups of pre-civilization humans. And they usually kill the males and children and any females that don't measure up (too old, too young, too ugly).
     
  22. draqon Banned Banned

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  23. Roman Banned Banned

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    No, I meant, why are you bringing it up. How is relevant to humans' propensity to form groups.
     

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