Should we care about the life of an ant?

Discussion in 'General Philosophy' started by Why?, Sep 21, 2007.

  1. Dunn11x Jesus Christ is The Messiah! Registered Senior Member

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    Believe what you choose to believe.
     
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  3. superluminal I am MalcomR Valued Senior Member

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    Done and done.
     
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  5. Yorda Registered Senior Member

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    It doesn't matter if you step on an ant by mistake or if they threaten you (they invade your house) because they are lower life forms. Human lives have more Value.

    However, you can't use your free will to kill ants if they don't threaten you because they have feelings too. You are also not allowed to kill trees and plants, but it's ok if you use them to build a house or give a flowers to a girl.
     
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  7. superluminal I am MalcomR Valued Senior Member

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    That is sooo nice!

    I used to put lengths of waterproof fuse down ant holes and light it. Ahhh... those were the days.
     
  8. peta9 Registered Senior Member

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    this just boils down to exercise of power or doing something just because they 'can' excuse. Well, they are right as no one can make them have a conscience. That's that but that doesn't change the fact they are an asshole. LOL.
     
  9. superluminal I am MalcomR Valued Senior Member

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    Excuse me, but I am an ass, not an asshole. A hole is the absence of matter in an object (an ass for example, or a doughnut).
     
  10. Dunn11x Jesus Christ is The Messiah! Registered Senior Member

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    I agree with most of what you said but not with ants having feelings. I don't know if you mean emotional or physical. If you meant feelings as in physical feeling, then I agree.
     
  11. peta9 Registered Senior Member

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    your hole is gaping as you lack a heart or conscience. ass-hole.
     
  12. superluminal I am MalcomR Valued Senior Member

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    Ah yes. I stand corrected. Thank you.
     
  13. superluminal I am MalcomR Valued Senior Member

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    Wasn't the part about it being OK to murder flowers for a girlfriend nice?
     
  14. Yorda Registered Senior Member

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    "Dead" matter (rocks, ice, water etc.) is the only thing that you can destroy just to destroy and have fun. Of course, the same rule still applies if you do it too much... for example, you are not allowed to destroy Mount Everest or take away all the water from the earth.

    Other than God's creations, there are also things created by humans that you are not allowed to destroy. Like beautiful paintings and computers. Special things.

    The interesting thing here is that... the reason why you can't destroy them is not because they (the atoms) have feelings but because there are humans who have feelings for them...

    I meant physical. If they have emotional feelings doesn't really matter because we couldn't hurt them emotionally anyway.
     
  15. Dunn11x Jesus Christ is The Messiah! Registered Senior Member

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    I think Yorda was being sarcastic, I'm not sure if plucking flowers is technically considered murder. But, if it is, I think it's a noble sacrifice.
     
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  16. Dunn11x Jesus Christ is The Messiah! Registered Senior Member

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    Ha, yea that is pretty interesting.

    I don’t know...seeing your queen die could be quite stressful.
     
  17. Dunn11x Jesus Christ is The Messiah! Registered Senior Member

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    Yes, but not because destroying too much is wrong, but rather because doing so would take away from us. And, needless to say, it is still Gods creation, so I would say to destroy for the sake of fulfilling ones darker side is wrong all together.
     
  18. Yorda Registered Senior Member

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    I didn't say it was murder... murder is if you kill a human. Even if you kill an animal, it's not murder. Otherwise most people would be murderers because they eat animals.
     
  19. peta9 Registered Senior Member

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    That is murder. There's lots of things done that are disgusting but it is what it is. It doesn't make it something else because we say it's so. i think someone mentioned in a different thread the killing of cats is disgusting because we are taught. No, it's because it is and we're aware of it. If we are on the receiving end of heinous actions, it doesn't make it any less disgusting because another is not in our place and isn't experiencing it. This is not an ideal universe but we have the power to do or make some remedies within our power and that's all we can and should do, determine our actions .

    The positive thing is humans have the power to provide a decent and happy life for them and kill them humanely but most don't. That's what's messed up.
     
  20. Dunn11x Jesus Christ is The Messiah! Registered Senior Member

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    lol, darrhh
     
  21. maxg Registered Senior Member

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    It is interesting and a good explanation for why it may be immoral to kill someone's pet but not immoral to kill ants.
     
  22. Dunn11x Jesus Christ is The Messiah! Registered Senior Member

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    It's amazing how we determine what is right and what is wrong.
     
  23. shichimenshyo Caught in the machine Registered Senior Member

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    Most of the time its insane
     

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