Should we care about the life of an ant?

Discussion in 'General Philosophy' started by Why?, Sep 21, 2007.

  1. Oli Heute der Enteteich... Registered Senior Member

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    You should respect all life as an aspect of the divine.






    But it's okay to kill things if they're ugly, or in your way, or you're in the mood.
     
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  5. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    I agree, but unfortunately there are laws against it in most cases! I have this neighbor, .......

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  7. draqon Banned Banned

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    violence is not an option.
     
  8. maxg Registered Senior Member

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    No cows aren't going to eat people unless we grind the people up and add them as a protein supplement to their feed, in which case they probably aren't going to notice. However, cows also don't care about the welfare of human beings so I don't see a moral need to care about their welfare. I do however see that cruelty to any species is distateful and I can see why someone would chose to be a vegetarian because of that. For me, however, I find it an acceptable trade-off.

    Also, I don't believe that being eaten are animal species biggest "worries" in the longrun. Cows are going to survive as a species a lot longer than many other animals because we chose to raise and eat them. And I'm willing to bet if we suddenly decided to stop eating them and let them go into the wild they wouldn't be doing all that well as a species.


    No. I chose to because it gives me pleasure and the pleasure I take from it outweighs the discomfort I have at the thought of how cattle are slaughtered, etc.
     
  9. redarmy11 Registered Senior Member

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    Whereas cats and dogs, for instance, do care about the welfare of human beings, either in the specific - particular humans as individuals - or in the general (humans as a group, or as a concept), or both. Especially Lassie. Other animals that care about us, and which we therefore customarily avoid chewing, include crocodiles and alligators, snakes, tapirs, capuchins (oh wait.. actually, all monkeys), spiders, ants and capybaras. Cows, pigs, sheep, chickens, cod, shrimp and lobsters are notorious in their indifference and therefore must perish.

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    We domesticated cows waaay back in Neolithic times, to the point where they can't eat grass these days without a knife and fork. In order to ensure their continued survival - it's a big, bad world out there - we need to continue farming and eating them.

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  10. Oli Heute der Enteteich... Registered Senior Member

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    Looked out the window lately?
    Watched the TV?

    Violence is ALWAYS an option.
    In many cases some see it as the only option.
     
  11. Dunn11x Jesus Christ is The Messiah! Registered Senior Member

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    lol, I've had my share of ants meet there demise for my enjoyment growing up. But I do feel that technically, though it isn't a wrong that should be gravely punished or any thing of the sort, I have to say, that unless you have to kill lower forms of life to survive, you shouldn't. If not for any other reason, than its hand in bringing about the crueler side of mankind. And again I'm not judgeing anyone, this is just my opinion; I use to do the same until I thought about it. And fumigating your house for pests falls under the category of survival in my book.
     
  12. Dunn11x Jesus Christ is The Messiah! Registered Senior Member

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    I agree with violence when it’s necessary such as protecting your country or family; when it isn't a selfish act and is the only apparent solution.
     
  13. redarmy11 Registered Senior Member

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    So you agree that Iraqis who feel that their country is under threat have a right to kill invading American troops?
     
  14. Dunn11x Jesus Christ is The Messiah! Registered Senior Member

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    Yes, if they truly feel that their actions are better for there country; this is a war. I'm not a terrorist sympathizer by far, but in all wars, the soldiers have the right to defend their country.
     
  15. redarmy11 Registered Senior Member

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    Coolness. Just checking.
     
  16. maxg Registered Senior Member

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    No moral reason not to kill & eat cats, bunnies, lemurs or whatever else you want. I personally could care less if you ate Lassie. Some people find it distasteful just as they find eating human flesh distateful.

    Why don't you buy a cow and free it from its chains. Or help it escape. Let it run free on the plains somewhere, and see how well it does.
     
  17. redarmy11 Registered Senior Member

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    So eating or not eating humans is a matter of personal choice.
    I think I may do just that.
     
  18. spuriousmonkey Banned Banned

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    That's ok. Bacteria eat your food all the time. Mosquitos drink your blood all the time. Viruses try to kill you all the time.
     
  19. redarmy11 Registered Senior Member

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    Yes, but ants don't. Why take it out on the ants? If someone assaults you, would you turn and assault an innocent bystander in return?

    Stupid dutchman.
     
  20. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    YES
     
  21. draqon Banned Banned

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    thing is ... what's better to take out anger on ants or on people?

    obviously on ants...they are not the same species. If they die...we can survive just as well without them.
     
  22. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Why ? Do you feel better when you step on an ant !? Take it out on the one that deserves it.

    "If they die...we can survive just as well without them."
    Don't count on it.
     
  23. draqon Banned Banned

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    Enmos relax allrighty...

    First you ask me a question and without waiting for the reply accuse me.

    I dont step on ants to feel better, I usually supress anger within me, and eat it over with kefir or by biking or sciforuming...this works for me

    Others do it and it helps them, and if it helps them...than let that be...because it is better.
     

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