Evolution belief in America

Anyway, more on topic, I agree that the poll questions are flawed, but the third question is closest to where I stand on the topic.

 

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That's not true.

http://www.livescience.com/animals/070514_femchimp_killers.html

 

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Thats biological instinct present even in cats

Chimps gorillas and langurs kill members of nearby groups but they also compete with and kill young males in their own groups who "stray"
http://www.tufts.edu/as/wright_center/cosmic_evolution/docs/text/text_cult_2.html

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This is actually a very anti-scientific statement. Nothing that an animal does in its life is to ensure maintaining a community and an environment in which their bloodline will survive and prosper.

That's because it looks this way in hindsight. That is not the same as what actually occurs. An animal will just do whatever it does. Regardless of the consequences for the future. Regardless of the consequences for the environment. Regardless of the consequences for the community.

It is kind of typical of the anti-scientific thinking on this forum and in the general public that led to this poll.

Everybody thinks they think scientifically because they can repeat a few popular phrases. But scientific thought is actually much more tricky than that. It's so easy to fall for traps as depicted in Fraggle's quote, because they make sense to us.

And they make sense because we have certain philosophies. And all goes well, if said philosophies are in line with evolutionary thinking, but are they ever?

 

Wouldn't you agree that a species behavior evolved, at least for a large part ?

 

Do you understand the difference between traits and behaviour? Natural selection rewards action, not emotion.

 

Don't traits lead to behavior ?

 

Also, how is behavior not action ?

 

That's horrible.

 

sorry i didnt see this post before, in regards to the law first of all, alot of women want to be treated as complete equals yes?. yet alot of these same women would still not want to be treated as a man is, in the eyes of the law. for example we can look at sexual assualt and sexiest behaviour in the workplace, alot of the time women commit sexual assualt and are never punished. where a man in the same position will be disciplined,

the same goes for violence, a womam in court will usualy never be sent to jail for assualt on a man during an altercation. yet within a jury any man who lays a finger on a woman is usualy seen as scum and sent straight to jail no bail.

we could next look at divorce, many women would not like to be treated fairly in this respect. they would prefer to take more than a fair share of the money. also im pretty sure 50% of women who claim custody of children would not like to lose the child in court.

i could probably come up with alot more situations where the law fabours women over men, and alot of women are perfectly happy with the unfairness of it all. but we could also look at social graces and manners for instance.

alot of women would like equal rights, but where it suits them. like alot of women would not like the idea of paying for a mans dinner, or opening doors for men. the term "ladies first" comes to mind here, which is not equal its putting women first by rights of social grace. men are expected to do things for women and act in a certain manner towards them which is not equal.

i will end on tradition, by rrights of tradition in some cases women would not liek to be equal. i know plenty of women who would have a ghastly look upon there face if they were told they get no engagement or diamond wedding ring unless they also buy one for there man with there own money. i remember reading a newspaper column last week along these lines actualy. where a woman was complaining about the child getting her husbands name by tradition, where she wanted the child to have her name. she said and i quote "tradition is utterly stupid and needs to be scrapped" then she was confronted with the reply in the column (people write in like a newpaper forumn) "so you wont be expecting a sparkling diamond ring then, as tradition is utterly stupid" her reply was something along the lines of "well, that part of the tradition is a nice part which doesent upset anybody".


peace.

 

the RRRR's having an RRRRR.

peace.

 

I agree with you. In many ways we women want to be more than equal.

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You are absolutely right; it was a bad choice of words on my part; I meant we consider evolution to be the passing on of traits favorable to an environment; so in that case, behavior would "evolve" because those possessing certain favorable behaviour patterns would be more likely to survive.

 

Except >30% of both independents and democrats also don't believe in evolution. Over 30%! That means at least a third of our population consists of idiots, which is should be unacceptable to anyone with half a brain. Unless the numbers are represented wrong.

 

yeah its true, but also true for men alot of the time. real equality is hard to find anywhere in the world.


peace.