Any aliens out there?

Discussion in 'Astronomy, Exobiology, & Cosmology' started by John J. Bannan, Jun 27, 2007.

  1. DwayneD.L.Rabon Registered Senior Member

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    Well the thing really is that alien life must be based on hydrogen. as the human is also, but not because the human uses hydrogen.


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  3. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Don't you mean carbon ?
     
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    Roswell crash info.

    As a former AF (60's) I'm aware of info confirming crash was true.
     
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  7. DwayneD.L.Rabon Registered Senior Member

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    Well, Enoms

    I mean that humans and aliens are hydrogen based, meaning that the majority of atoms within the biological lifeform is hydrogen. hydrogen appears to be the main energy signiture of most life forms if not all. Hydrogen is a cosmic sensitive atom meaning that it is polarized by the cosmic background, which makes it the most stable atomic element, and the most abundant in the local group. hydrogen finds its anchor of polarity very quickly and in every enviroment. imagine that space was the bottom of the ocean hydrogen would be the weight (anchor) that sinks to the bottom of the ocean

    Oxygen and other gaseous elements behave the same way. i would assume that for added safty in interstellar space fight that water would be used to sub merge the piolet.

    Planetary stablity seems as well to be because of the presence of hydrogen, at least as i see it in my assement most of the planets terrestial or gaseous the core is composed of hydrogen and lithium,(lithiumhydried) but is stable in orbit and through space because of hydrogen.

    I have a chart of atomic elements that i have made that defines the polarity background for the atoms of our solar system, i will see if i can post them in topic for you to read. soon i will define the background polarity for atoms in other solar systems which will be a help in my accessment to determine exactly which atoms are the other atoms that determine life for that solar system, in our solar system that would be carbon.

    Judgeing from or solar systems atomic polarity chart it seems that platinium is quite promising, given its absorbtion of hydrogen.


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  8. DwayneD.L.Rabon Registered Senior Member

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    Well jimbo, it would not be unusual for a advanced alien life form to be on earth at this time in world history, exspecially one from our local group, as the earth is very near a magnetic pole reversal.

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  9. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    I'm pretty sure that earth-life is carbon based Dwayne.
    First link i found: http://www.daviddarling.info/encyclopedia/C/carbon-based_life.html
     
  10. Starthane Xyzth returns occasionally... Valued Senior Member

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    Next he will be saying that carbon itself is actually an alloy of uranium and xenon.

    (Or was that 2 pages back..?)
     
  11. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    LOL
     
  12. orcot Valued Senior Member

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    life is a mixture of boose and resulting carelessnes. Generally the boose contains a minimum in water and proberly hydrogen
     
  13. orcot Valued Senior Member

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    I wonder if the martian lander phoenix would be capable to detect hydrogen peroxide life.
    If life where found on Mars it's pretty lickely that their are millions of planets/moons with life in this galaxy alone


    DwayneD.L.Rabon asked before:
    A educated gues would be 55 cancri it has a gab at yust the right spot in it's habitable zone to conceal a terrestrial planet. The stars age is also verry similar to our own at 4.7 billion years meaning if there is life there and it can be sustained it may be pretty advanced
    http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/060801_science_tuesday.html
     
  14. DwayneD.L.Rabon Registered Senior Member

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    Well i have a limited range of about 22.5 light years, As i have only assesed the stars defined by the RECONS project headed by Todd Henry, wherein the closest stars are being redefined by the project, so i only have about 159 stars to look at so far and which is quite a bit in itself to calculate, but i plan to calculate all 377 stars that exist in our local group of stars.

    So I am sorry i do not have any calculations on 55 Cancri, but i will look it up just for sciforums members to add to the conversation, never know with the telescopic evidence, and some drafted figures maybe the assumption of life for 55 Cancri will be come something we can look at to actully find some alien activity.

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  15. DwayneD.L.Rabon Registered Senior Member

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    Most of the spectrum energy of emission and absrobtion of humans is determined by hydrogen, and therfore chemical nature and other palapation cycles of life are determined by hydrogen. So i see life as hydrogen based.

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  16. machiaventa Registered Senior Member

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    Distance

    If there is some intelligent design behind the formation of the universe.Then why did it put everything so far apart? Maybe if we took of the blinders we would see that we are closer than we realize.Or we are so far apart because there are a lot of other planets that are just like us. Bunch of idiots fighting over stupid factional religions and govermental ideas. May be time will tell may be not. The one thing I do believe is that sc-fi books are really history books from the future.:shrug:

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  17. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    :roflmao::roflmao:
     
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  19. machiaventa Registered Senior Member

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    that was for Mr. DwayneD
     
  20. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    It isn't him, it's the evil moderator that sneaks into his thread and changes the words around to make him look bad.
     
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    Who claimed they were?

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  23. DwayneD.L.Rabon Registered Senior Member

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    Heris a paste from another topic wher i posted the list

    Here is a list of the atoms and there polar response, atoms marked CS are responsive to the cosmic background(cosmis sensitive), those marked GS are galaxtic sensitive and those SS are solar sensitive.
    The support sturcture of humans is entirely SS, you can equate the atoms of the chart in there group with there function in the human body or other life on our planet to asses how there senstiveibty organizes to form life.
    In general any of the SS group would act as a support for life, subject to abundance and selection.
    If the satilite STARDUST has brought back life from a comet, i would have to assume that such life was based on a heavy atom, given the chart the defintion of tungsten seems to be near that of carbon, and in a atmosphere with the lack of gravity tungsten therefor seems like it would be the choice element for life on a coment, however i have no idea of the precentage of tungesten found in coments.

    The chart appllies through out the Galaxy, for example you can exspect that the support structure of a life form in our galaxy to fall in the SS group, and the medium of such a life form, meaning fluid, transfereing fluids,chemical lift to fall in the CS group.


    THE GALAXTIC PERIODIC CHART OF THE ELEMENTS, by DwayneD.L.Rabon
    CS -16 ARGON
    CS 2.660 BROMINE (GS)
    CS 1.720 CHLORINE
    CS -47 FLOURINE
    CS -99 HELIUM
    CS -86 HYDROGEN
    CS 1.160 KRYPTON
    CS 2.330 MERCURY (GS)
    CS -75 NEON
    CS -37 NITROGEN
    CS -45 OXYGEN
    CS 2.020 RADON (GS)
    CS 1.620 XENON
    GS 9.330 ALUMINIUM
    GS 9.030 ANTIMONY
    GS 8.090 ARSENIC
    GS 5.750 ASTATINE
    GS 10.00 BARIUM
    GS 8.150 BISMUTH
    GS 5.940 CADMIUM
    GS 10.71 CERIUM (SS)
    GS 3.010 CESIUM
    GS 10.95 EUROPIUM (SS)
    GS 3.000 FRANCIUM
    GS 3.020 GALLIUM
    GS 4.290 INDIUM
    GS 3.860 IODINE
    GS 6.000 LEAD
    GS 4.530 LITHIUM
    GS 9.230 MAGNESIUM
    GS 9.170 NEPTUNIUM
    GS 3.170 PHOSPHORUS
    GS 9.130 PLUTONIUM
    GS 5.270 POLONIUM
    GS 3.360 POTASSIUM
    GS 9.730 RADIUM
    GS 3.120 RUBIDIUM
    GS 4.530 SELENIUM
    GS 3.700 SODIUM
    GS 10.50 STRONTIUM (SS)
    GS 3.860 SULFUR
    GS 7.220 TELLURIUM
    GS 5.770 THALLIUM
    GS 5.040 TIN
    GS 10.92 YTTERBIUM (SS)
    GS 6.920 ZINC

    SS 13.24 ACTINIUM
    SS 14.49 AMERICIUM
    SS 13.23 BERKELIUM
    SS 15.60 BERYLLIUM
    SS 23.48 BORON
    SS 11.15 CALCIUM
    SS 11.73 CALIFORNIUM
    SS 37.73 CARBON
    SS 21.80 CHROMIUM
    SS 17.68 COBALT
    SS 13.57 COPPER
    SS 16.18 CURIUM
    SS 16.85 DYSPROSIUM
    SS 11.33 EINSTENIUM
    SS 18.02 ERBIUM
    SS 18.00 FERMIUM
    SS 15.86 GADOLINIUM
    SS 12.11 GERMANIUM
    SS 13.37 GOLD
    SS 25.06 HAFNIUM
    SS 17.47 HOLMIUM
    SS 27.19 IRIDIUM
    SS 18.11 IRON
    SS 11.91 LANTHANIUM
    SS 19.00 LAWRENCIUM
    SS 19.36 LUTETIUM
    SS 15.19 MANGANESE
    SS 11.00 MENDELEVIUM
    SS 28.96 MOLYBDENUM
    SS 12.94 NEODYMIUM
    SS 17.28 NICKEL
    SS 27.50 NIOBIUM
    SS 11.00 NOBELIUM
    SS 33.06 OSMIUM
    SS 18.27 PALLADIUM
    SS 20.41 PLATINUM
    SS 12.04 PRASEODYMIUM
    SS 13.15 PROMETHIUM
    SS 18.45 PROTACTINIUM
    SS 34.59 RHENIUM
    SS 22.37 RHODIUM
    SS 27.07 RUTHENIUM
    SS 13.47 SAMARIUM
    SS 18.14 SCANDIUM
    SS 16.87 SILICON
    SS 12.34 SILVER
    SS 32.90 TANTALUM
    SS 24.30 TECHNETIUM
    SS 16.29 TERBIUM
    SS 20.23 THORIUM
    SS 18.18 THULIUM
    SS 19.41 TITANIUM
    SS 36.95 TUNGSTEN
    SS 14.08 URANIUM
    SS 21.83 VANADIUM
    SS 17.95 YTTRIUM
    SS 21.28 ZIRCONIUM

    % Precentages of the earths crust/ earth

    Oxygen 46.43% CS
    Silicon 27.77% SS
    Aluminum 8.14% GS
    Iron 5.12% SS
    Calcium 3.62% SS
    Magnesium 2.09% GS
    Sodium 2.85% GS
    Potassium 2.60% GS
    Hydrogen 0.127% CS
    The other 83 elements 1.253%


    Earth is
    46.557 % Cosmic Sensitive
    15.68% Galaxtic Sensitive
    36.51% Solar Sensitive

    Galaxtic Periodic Elements , By DwayneD.L.Rabon

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