Why Punctuation is Everything

Discussion in 'Linguistics' started by S.A.M., Aug 6, 2007.

  1. mikenostic Stop pretending you're smart! Registered Senior Member

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    If it was reported speech, Oli, it would have to be written as such:
    Oli said John has missed the point.
     
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  3. Oli Heute der Enteteich... Registered Senior Member

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    Or: John, said Oli, has missed the point.
    Stylistic differences.
    Stops things getting boringly monotonous.
    I was taught both at school.
     
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  5. mikenostic Stop pretending you're smart! Registered Senior Member

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    I can't find any info about the way you structured it, but I'm not going to say you're wrong. Maybe it's one of those obscure rules that never gets taught anymore? :shrug:
    All I know is that I would put quotes around the quoted speech in the sentence the way you structured it.

    http://perso.orange.fr/absolutenglish-972/notes/grammar/reportedspeech.htm
     
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  7. Oli Heute der Enteteich... Registered Senior Member

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    Damn, story of my life: everything I know is old-fashioned

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  8. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Yeah me too.

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  9. mikenostic Stop pretending you're smart! Registered Senior Member

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    Quick hijack; is your avatar a picture of you, Sam?

    /hijack
     
  10. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Yeah, I'm emulating Orly and Luci.

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  11. Atom Registered Senior Member

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    Me neither..its rubbish.

    Its the same tripe behind the well known example..A Bear Eats, Shoots and Leaves. Well if you feel that Bears commonly eat in restaurants, and then proceed to shoot fellow customers (presumably smokers

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    ) it makes perfect sense (to pedantic clots).

    Recently a well known Times columnist wrote a full page article using no punctuation whatsoever apart from full stops. Most people were half way through before they realised it...even without punctuation there was no problem whatsoever in understanding what it said.
     
  12. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Not a bear, a panda. A bear doesn't eat shoots and leaves.

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  13. Atom Registered Senior Member

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    SAM is my friend

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  14. Atom Registered Senior Member

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    See..i told you it didnt make sense!
     
  15. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    It does if you remember that pandas eat eucalyptus shoots and leaves.

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  16. Atom Registered Senior Member

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    No you misunderstand..it was the title of a best seller by an english linguist..and a very tedious one.

    A Bear eats shoots and leaves was the TITLE of her best-selling book. Lynn Truss?
     
  17. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Honey, I own that book, look again. Its a Panda!

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    And its an awesome book!
     
  18. Atom Registered Senior Member

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    Actually SAM you are just as pedantic because a Panda is a Bear..so in what respect is it not a bear?

    Jeezus..I'm not used to such literal, autistic, semantic stringencies on my forum..its a bit more freeform and spontaneous..I'll get used to things. Somehow.
     
  19. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Humph!

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    This is ONLY the Linguistics forum.
     
  20. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    A panda is a bear, but a bear is not neccesarily a panda. Get it?
     
  21. Atom Registered Senior Member

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    No its not..its a panda bearing arms.

    Its very very silly and most unlikely.
     
  22. Atom Registered Senior Member

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    Listen Kiddo...when the next school massacre is perpetrated by a Panda Bear then I'll take you seriously...until then keep your counsel.
     
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