Humanity or Life ?

Discussion in 'Free Thoughts' started by Enmos, Aug 3, 2007.

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Humanity or Life ?

  1. Hell no !! As long as humankind persist all is good.

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  2. Yes !! It is the only way, its time for humans to leave.

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  3. I dont know. Its too difficult a choice.

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  1. draqon Banned Banned

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    huh?
     
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  3. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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  5. draqon Banned Banned

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    Abraham Lincoln was the dude that got shot, right?
     
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  7. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Didn't take his own advice, d'yu think?
     
  8. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    I'm just saying, that link is talking about a tragedy that occured, but what does it have to do with antimatter bombs?
     
  9. draqon Banned Banned

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    CERN is an anti-matter accelerator. The fact that accidents in CERN happen mean one of those anti-particles can collide with the wall...and Earth goes kaboom.

    gush....
     
  10. Oli Heute der Enteteich... Registered Senior Member

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    Nope: sections of humanity have done so, not the race as a whole.

    And if there are lower lows to come that we don't survive?
    You're assuming again.

    I'm a weapons technologist: I have more idea than you ever will have.

    Hours to days. Including ourselves.

    What other species has the sheer stupidity to even consider doing it?
    You're still equating destruction with power.

    Just like, say, hurricane Katrina, the tsunami, earthquakes, ozone depletion, polar ice caps melting?
    I'm convinced.

    Because we can't do any of those.


    Draqon: CERN haven't ever made anywhere near enough antimatter to make a bomb.
    And a stress failure in the magnets was costly but hardly a potential world-killer accident.
     
  11. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    It's not about the fact of whether or not we can do those things, that part can be solved by science and technology

    It's a matter of wanting to do these things, and working towards it.
     
  12. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    Sounds awfully godlike to me.
    It wouldn't even cross my mind to do such a thing.
     
  13. Oli Heute der Enteteich... Registered Senior Member

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    Spoken like a true non-scientist/ technologist.
    "Someone will sort it out: I had the hard part - the idea. What's the delay?".

    So we don't want to so far....

    You're still talking rubbish by the way.
     
  14. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    I meant that with time, we will have such wonderous technology. Hell, I may not know squat about engineering, but no doubt our projects will become more and more advanced

    But if we did want to. If someone did want to, they could try. They could achieve it, that's the key of my point. A human being can want, and can actually work towards that want. A human has thier own will, not that of Nature.
     
  15. Oli Heute der Enteteich... Registered Senior Member

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    Probably.
    But not necessarily all the stuff you're positing.

    They do anyway.
    But there may be limits on what we can learn and build.

    So basically your key point is flawed: wanting and trying does not guarantee success.
    Ask any engineer.
    Every single engineering project in history is a compromise between what is desired and what is possible.
     
  16. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    Wanting and trying does not guarantee success, true. But the fact that we can want and try, that is something only we, on Earth, can do: to want and try to look beyond, to try the extraordinary, curiousity
     
  17. Fugu-dono Scholar Of Shen Zhou Registered Senior Member

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    Life because I still haven't put into play my masterplan for world domination yet. I'll keep the power to end human kind as a back-up in the case of rebellion. Mwahahahaha...

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  18. SoLiDUS OMGWTFBBQ Registered Senior Member

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    Ending all Life, which is possibly unique in the Universe? I wonder what Sagan would have to say about this.
     
  19. draqon Banned Banned

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    The universe is not required to be in perfect harmony with human ambition.
    Carl Sagan

    The universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent.
    Carl Sagan
     
  20. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    All human life, and it is to protect the rest of the earths life from us.
     
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  21. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Actually if the human race deserves anything it is total destruction. And dont worry that will happen one day. The sad thing is we will take most of the earths life (animal/plant life) with us.
    I for one have not much faith in the human race to make up for its destructiveness. I think the climate will continue to get worse, animal- and plantlife will dissapear and with them our foodsources. Humankind is destined for doom.
    Now, wouldnt you rather have humans removed and let the rest of life live on on earth than to destroy all, humans and nature ?
    I get the feeling you are proud of the fact that humans are so 'powerful' (read destructive). If humankind was truly powerful we would have found a way to live in harmony with nature instead of destroying it. Wake up ! Grow up !
     
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  22. Lord Hillyer Banned Banned

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    Yes. Time for humans to leave.

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  23. SoLiDUS OMGWTFBBQ Registered Senior Member

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    Ah yes, quoting out of context. Excellent...

    Watch Cosmos: you'll get a wildly different set of quotes. If you're too lazy, just view the last episode. "Who speaks for Earth?"
     

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