Obviously. Where have I indicated that? I am merely saying that you are looking at unequal "cause" and "effect" - and in doing so arrive at your illogical conclusions - because you are cherrypicking the elements of the "cause" and the elements of the "effect" that suit your sophistry. It doesn't work, LG. Either you know it doesn't and are thus being dishonest, or you actually don't know the underlying principles that you're discussing. Again - cherrypicking to suit your argument.Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! You are being simplistic in your interpretation and in doing so reaching the illogical conclusion you are. The cause can not be any more or any less than the effect in anything other than subjective interpretation of their value - which in itself is but part of the grand cause / effect chain. So basically you want your cake and eat it? And you are also not countering the claim that this Entity is inferior to one whose knowledge is already infinite. Last time I looked a non sequitur is a non sequitur regardless of what you may think of the person who claimed it. Your counter argument to the claim of it being a non sequitur is an ad hom. If you don't think it is a non sequitur - please explain why not rather than answer it with some glib comment that merely implies you have no answer.
If i said i have direct perception God and heaven DONt exist, how would you propose to determine if I was lying?
************* M*W: No god can call it "quits," because no god called the "starts." That's a delusion of ignorant humans.
Thanks. That really contributed to the conversation MW. way to be. Anyways, if God called it quits, chances are pretty good everything would be thrown into chaos. the natural order of things would either be halted or disbanded all together. The effect would be dramatic in any matter but it could be a slow change or a fast one. does god call it quits and stop controlling things like the movement of the earth? Or does he just let those things dictate themselves and just stop caring all together, waiting for all of us to die natural deaths? Who knows.
Falso alarm, folks. I just saw God over at Walmart. He decided to stick around for a while to take advantage of the new lower prices. 6 pack of paper towells reduced from 2.99 to 2.94. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! What a great guy? All that power and all he comes up with is a world of plastic tasting tomatoes and Paris Hilton. :bugeye: If there is a god judging this god he'd have those typical comments on his report card: -needs constant attention. -not performing up to his ability -anger management issues -aptitude test and performance to date indicate he's well suited to pursue a career in sheet metal work or windsheid repair.
well if the supreme designer and controller of the universe just throws up his arms and leaves, common sense dictates, we'd be pretty screwed.
in other words, "God" is QQ. That's what this shit is about. Simply, how can god call it quits? What exists for him to quit with? I don't understand. Can somebody enlighten me please.
enmos: I believe this is incorrect. Are you somehow emplying the defination of god that I mentioned presented & presented by QQ? If so, the arguement is one of the most interesting things in my existance. Nothing exists? Somehow, I don't smell this.
see how your views coincide scripture the next question would be if there is some particular reason why your views do not coincide with scripture .....
Sarkus cause and effect should be equal? Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! truly bizzare!! still it remains that one can make yogurt out of milk but one cannot make milk out of yogurt no I can only assume you didn't read what I posted before you responded perhaps I would have something to respond to if you could tell us why it is a non sequitur (since as far as I can tell at the moment, the only reason it doesn't make sense is because it disturbs your atheistic ideals)
Crunchy Cat “ if emotion is an effect of our consciousness, and if our consciousness is an effect of god, then god, as the cause of all causes must have recourse to these things also what to speak of god experiencing disappointment even those who are properly situated under his shelter don't experience it SB 4.30.20: Always engaging in the activities of devotional service, devotees feel ever-increasingly fresh and new in all their activities. The all-knower, the Supersoul within the heart of the devotee, makes everything increasingly fresh. This is known as the Brahman position by the advocates of the Absolute Truth. In such a liberated stage [brahma-bhūta], one is never bewildered. Nor does one lament or become unnecessarily jubilant. This is due to the brahma-bhūta situation. is it possible for disappointment to exist outside the medium of duality? explained above - if you can elaborate on how one can be conscious and exert an influence without displaying emotion, please do so ...
Not unless he designed the material universe in such a way that it'd work fine without him. And no one here (or anywhere) knows if that's what he did. And besides, common sense tends to bend with god. The big guy works in mysterious ways and all that.
Is that supposed to show me God and heaven exist ? Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! That is not even near evidence-like...
BG 7.7: O conqueror of wealth, there is no truth superior to Me. Everything rests upon Me, as pearls are strung on a thread. if you take away the thread from a string of pearls, what will happen?
I have never heard of Emnos and his posts.. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! So i cant know if they exist or not..