The importance of being hated

http://www.grendel.org/tsc/klosterman-enemies.htm

Where would we be without envy?

 

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Well, I've been saying it for years ...and even on this site ...humans hate other humans in a myriad of different ways. Hate is what makes the world go around and around ...always has, always will.

And most people here tout "luv" and "peace" and shit like that as if it's actually something that will ever happen ...except in the pipedreams!

Baron Max

 

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Sounds like she has a pretty severe borderline/narcissistic personality disorder from reading that.

Although theres definitely a truth to this, ive seen people absolutely revel in being hated just as some revel in being loved.
Ive never once seen anyone revel in personal indifference though, its indifference more than anything that seems to kill the soul.

 

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So does hate conquer all? or love?

I say love has the ability to conquer all, except itself perhaps?? (I really say it only for the sake of saying something obligatory about love even though I think it's more complicated than that...and mostly full of crap)

But I seriously think that hate truly conquers all, including itself.

 

I really hate agreeing with baron lol but.....I kinda agree here again.....You can't luv everybody (well i can't) and I do think alot of ppl preach alot of shit about luving every human being. I really do fuking hate some ppl and that won't change. I also tell ppl that I do not think 2 ppl can every be married all their life without every arguing.....Some ppl want you to believe that they NEVER do and go around smiling all the time, I just don't beleive it. I think somebody in that relationship is backing down.....etc.

 

Just because you can't that means no one can?

 

I find it hard to beleive that 2 ppl can live together their whole lives and never argue or get into a fight....thats just me but thats what i beleive. I have lived next to some ppl that appear to be like Leave it to Beaver...on the outside.....and behind closed doors it different. I guess I am just not into faking anything, if I am in a shitty mood I don't go around grinning like a fool...I just will never beleive that 2 ppl can live together side by side day after day..yr after yr and NEVER argue or fight about something......

 

You will never believe it??
That seems kind of silly and closed-minded to me.

Never argue or fight?
Arguing is not a bad thing - arguing is simply discussing something from two differeing points of view.
"I think Janis Joplin is a great singer."
"I think Janis Joplin is over-rated and her voice is too gravelly."
That's an argument - differing opinions is not a bad thing.

When the argument gets personal, that's a fight...

"I think Janis Joplin is over-rated and her voice is too gravelly."
"God you have no fucking taste in music."
"Fuck you!"
That's a fight.

I think people can live together for years and never have a fight, without one backing down and being the pansy - in fact, I know they can.
All it takes is simply respect.
Once you lose respect, the relationship is dead.

 

Most everyone i know relationship is dead then.

 

See, Shorty, ....it's virtually impossible to discuss anything about reality with an idealist. "IF" conquers all for an idealist ...and no amount of reality can stand up against the dreamer's "if" statements.

"If everyone loved everyone else, then there'd be no wars or violence."
"If bears never shit in the woods, then there'd be no bear shit in the woods."
"If all women were perfectly subservient to men, there'd be no arguments between men and women."
"If women permitted sex with any male that wants it, then men would be to damned tired to fight ...and wouldn't care anyway."

"IF" is such a powerful word ...and has so little connection to reality.

Baron Max

 

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Perhaps ...but from your posts here at sciforums, it seems that you don't love me. So ...which is it? Or can you love someone at the same time as you denigrate them and slander them and call them vile names?

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Baron Max

 

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Isn't that the nemesis in the OP?

 

It's easy post stuff like that, Nick, and easy to type the words, but can you actually show it in your posts? Apparently not ...all one has to do is read some of your posts.

And that's exactly what I've been saying all along ....people lie.

Baron Max

 

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of course........you just summed up my relationship with nietzche lol

plus i don't lie I tell everyone close to me I don't like many ppl...I am not going
to pretend that I do. I don't have many 'friends' and I don't really care to be honest because alot of these so called friends are no where in sight when you actually need help. I have a few REAL friends the rest can go to hell.

 

The only really necessary enemy in life - the absolute, utter Grendel of existence - is death. No other conflict is inherently necessary, although human behaviour sometimes renders it unavoidable. The solution I believe is reproduction; no particular combination of my genetic information survives completely, but my future is assured by the line of my haplotypic history.

 

without hate there can be no love so it's important

 

hey even spongebob don't get along with squidward :bugeye: