Star Wars vs Star Trek

That's the reason I ask. You see there are lots of ways to destroy earth without even coming close to it.

Our planet has his lifeforms thx to the moon. so take that away and what's left. If jupiter is jumpstarted we would boil.

Once SW would take out Earth the battle would be half-won.

 

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Nah, Earth isn't the base to be honest. Federation HQ is on the starbase above earth and is equiped with some of the best shields including Metaphasic Shielding. It can also hold (projected value) some 3 million people... it IS a 3km tall 750m round starbase after all.

The problem is, Jupiter would need StellarMass, aka StarDust as it's been called for rather simplistic reasons- it looks like dust at the distances we view it, even though it isn't. You would need to form a star-producing nebula (or take a cubic wtftonne(tm) of material from one) and pour it into Jupiter, then provide enough heat to start a nuclear reaction WHILE keeping the mass together to allow it to condense into a star.

 

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Actually, the only time Fusion is mentioned as a powersource is for Hyperdrives, and like I pointed out a M/AM reaction is a fusion reaction. The Death Star was hypermatter, probably akin to blackholes or singularities. SD and so on use Solar ionization, or quite literally compact masses that give out the power of large stars.


As for the resource issue you had, with leiterally billions of worlds it isn;t an issue, but SW does have very very efficent means of recycling and extremely efficent farming.

 

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Here is some blue prints, though not neccesarily official

Some more

 

What, you think an Eclipse or Sovereign wouldn't just blow StarBase one out of the sky? It is not like it is mobile, and if it was so powerful why was a Borg cube a threat to Earth? Besides once on planet is shattered violently, you know other races would be going "Oh shit, I want to live."

By the way for the size you quated is much too small to be Starbase One.

 

I doubt you could actually harness a singularity- the only output from a black hole is x-ray and gamma-ray emissions that occur when the black hole is feeding.

Other than that, I don't know how you could physically derive power from something that sucks nearly all matter and energy from the space around it.

M/AM is a "nuclear" reaction except that it's a 100% annihilation where as nuclear fission/fusion has an efficiency of around 40% at best. I forget what the scientific term was for it, but when something has a pure, 100% mass-> energy conversion it's not just a nuclear reaction. I'll have to see if my physics professor has any ideas about it or any leads as to what it is called.

Solar ionization? Like... the ionizing of solar particles? In other words you make them all positively or negatively charged?

And a final question:

Apparently ISD's cannot land on shielded planets... I know there was an argument before that ended abruptly about a shielded planet being attacked via ground forces- that seems impossible now?

 

Apparently this is hypermatter.

Finally, what about Han's quote? The Falcon was one of the Fastest Ships right?

"She'll make point five past lightspeed. She may not look like much, but she's got it where it counts, kid. I've made a lot of special modifications myself."

I'm confused... does he mean at sublight? Except Wiki/wookiepedia goes on to say

The most famous attribute of Millennium Falcon was her hyperdrive. The hyperdrive system onboard the Falcon was fully twice the size of the hyperdrive in a standard YT-1300 freighter. This system gave her a hyperdrive class of 0.5, which was twice as fast as most Imperial warships. The secret to her speed was master starship tech "Doc" Vandangante's modifications that "streamlined" the ship in hyperspace by controlling the warp of the space-time continuum around her. Several other ships have tried to match the Falcon's speed without these "streamlining" modifications and have blown themselves into space dust.

 

ROFL! Apparently Star Wars was in Star Trek:

This is a ScreenCap from the Battle of Sector 001 in Star Trek: First Contact

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Hoth wasn't completely shielded, only a portion was. The troops were dropped outside the shied and had to come in via walker. If Hoth's atmosphere wasn't so frigid aircraft might have been of more use. Remember it took months for the techs of the the Alliance to tune their speeders to the cold.

 

Actually Han's ship was twice as fast as a normal hyperdrive, meaning that a trip from Endor to Coruscant would take the Falcon half the time that Wedge's X-wing would. The ".5 past light" meant cut your expected travel time in half.

 

how does that work? Wouldn't that be two times light speed then?

 

And I bet the Falcon did more damage than the Defiant and took less damage than Enterprise lol

 

Not a chance given it's upgrade history- if the Wiki timeline is right, the Falcon would have had only the old quad blasters on it, not the light turbolasers.

And the Enterprise took almost no damage in First Contact- in fact, I don't think it's shields ever fell until the temporal incursion.

 

Here's a question- given that photograph... that means the Federation has an accurate sensor description of the Falcon and it's technology right?

Woot, duplication for the win! Now we simply make a fleet of falcons and SERIOUSLY fuck with Vaders mind XD

 

Well, remember hyperspeed isn so much faster than Lightspeed or any form of Warp. Instead of thinking of the speed people would roughtly know how many hors/days travel it was to a world via a class one hyperdrive. Now the class of the drive is how many times the base travel time you should expect to be travelling.

x.5 would cut it in half
x.75 would cut it by a quarter
x1 would be roughtly on
x1.5 would take half again as long
x2 would take twice as long
x3 would take 3 times as long


It is of note than many battleships have class x2, mainly becuase they have the room for supplies.

Darth Mauls ship had a class x3 but also had a cloaking device.

 

Ever heard of the paralell evolution of ideas. How two cultures who never had contact could have similiar ideas. Well same thing here, the ship in question was probably some loval smuggler who decided to help out at the battle becuase, "Well hell, borg don't buy nothing." I mean a lot of different ships between the series have at least a few simularities. Hell, tell me the Defiant wasn't inspired by some Star Wars designs.

 

Hey Scott how about unleashing Durge inside of the Enterprise?

 

Scott, it was put in there on purpose- it IS a CG image of the Falcon because the guy in charge of FX for First Contact wanted to pay homage to Star Wars as well

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Durge would never get inside the ship Fettman- and if he did, they'd simply either

A) Lock him up in a force field (it kept Ani and Obi at bay quite nicely)
B) Beam him to space
C) Keep him in transporter stasis in the pattern buffers

 

Hey Kittamaru you should head over to the new Thread Warhammer40k vs ST ^_^

 

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A) Actually worked that way becuase Anakin and Obi-Wan WANTED to be captured. Or didn't you catch that.

B) Never been done in Star trek expect to Redjac and Lore.

C) Assuming you can get him in the transporter buffer, some being have shown amazing ability to resist transporters.