Ban Smoking Right Now

Discussion in 'Science & Society' started by TruthSeeker, Jun 3, 2007.

  1. EmptyForceOfChi Banned Banned

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    in the far future smoking will be illegal i think. it will start with small areas banning smoking, first it will be banned in public buildings, and in the workplace, then it will be banned on the streets itself because of litter, then it will be banned in your own home if you have children or live with other non smokers,


    then it will get to a stage where hardly anybody smokes anymore because they want to be healthy, that banning them wont miss much tax money,


    peace.
     
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  3. nietzschefan Thread Killer Valued Senior Member

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    Well holy shit, who is gonna pay for all the policing? Sure as fuck ain't me.
     
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  5. shorty_37 Go! Canada Go! Registered Senior Member

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    I don't smoke but what does it really matter. Quote "want to be healthy"
    Well we are going to die from all the smog and pollution in the air.....who cares about second hand cigarette smoke.
     
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  7. Communist Hamster Cricetulus griseus leninus Valued Senior Member

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    Have you tried complaining to the landlord?
     
  8. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    Precisely. However, I usually agree with him, thus giving me the patience to reply without taking it personally.

    Yes... not all youth is foolish. For a matter of fact, there is a lot of brilliant young people out there....
     
  9. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    I was talking about cigarretes.
     
  10. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    LOL! I suppose that an undisputable "fact"?

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    Now that you are an old fart, it's time to be respected and collect the checks from the government! All those foolish young folks, working so that you can eat and survive!

    LOL! :roflmao:
     
  11. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    I remember from a psychology class that once a psychologist said that when you are old you are either very wise or very dumb. I think that was Erickson..... Huuumm....
     
  12. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    It was sunday.
     
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  14. darksidZz Valued Senior Member

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    Man, all I can say is that if you could see this amazingly hot girl with her red shirt, blue jeans, and no-sock shoes you would wish she was smoking you!
     
  15. ashpwner Registered Senior Member

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    i don't like smoking and would not mind if it was baned however it scared me how the goverment can just ban things like this say they dont like t.v they cam ban it, it's frighting how much power these people have over us.
     
  16. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    we give them power
     
  17. RubiksMaster Real eyes realize real lies Registered Senior Member

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    If that really is the case, the smoker is in violation of the rules, and you can take action, by contacting the landlord.

    That's not at all what I meant. I'm saying, you can't take away a person's right to smoke, just because a few other people don't like it. Everything we do is going to have some effect on other people. Naturally, not everyone will be happy with these effects. It is impossible, however, to appease everyone. Since that is the case, the line has to be drawn somewhere.

    It's a huge exaggeration, and you're climbing a slippery slope, in equating negligible amounts of cigarette smoke with outright homicide.

    Right. And I don't think they should have that kind of power over us. I don't think the government should be able to tell people whether or not to smoke. The job of the government isn't to hold peoples' hands and protect them on that small of a scale. That's too much power, and not enough freedom.
     
  18. Fraggle Rocker Staff Member

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    The government can't get people to stop using more dangerous drugs. It can't get people to stop driving drunk. It can't keep drugs out of schools, hell it can't even keep drugs out of prisons. Is there any sane person who really believes that the damn stupid overpaid incompetent government is going to be able to stop people from smoking??? They tried outlawing alcohol in my country in my parents' era, and all it did was make alcohol more popular because it suddenly became cool.

    People are going to do what they want. It's the government's job to facilitate that, not to tell them that they're wrong. This is the same government that dumps sodium fluoride into our water supply on purpose. Do you really trust these bureaucrats to make decisions about our health???
    We breed dogs. Trust me, you wouldn't want us in your apartment building.
    Yes. Do you understand the dangers of an out-of-control, too-big-for-its-britches government? They are incapable of doing a competent risk analysis when deciding what they're going to do to us--whoops I mean "for us"--in the name of health and safety. They've got leering civil "servants" staring at our bodies through x-ray machines in airports--meanwhile something like 90% of the containers that come into the U.S. on ships is not examined.
    As I said, I'm not a strong supporter of smoking in public. But a man's home is his castle.
    So don't let people smoke in public, except in places set aside for communities of smokers. Geeze, your schools must be even worse than ours, is everybody where you live so weak at basic reasoning?
    Settle down Beavis. We're talking about a citizen smoking inside his own home, not out in public.
    Well then he's already breaking the law. In the U.S., the landlord would be held responsible for allowing a violation of a health law and subjected to a heavy fine.
    No, I'm not a smoker. I don't allow smoking in my house. I only rent to non-smokers. But they're free to go out and smoke on the balcony, on the deck, or in the yard, as long as they don't stand outside my window and do it. I'm just a guy who respects freedom. I'll support somebody else's if they support mine.
    You haven't read very many of my postings if that's the kind of person you think I am. I'm very impatient with the people of my generation. They're selfish, irrational, and whiney. Not to mention grumpy like the Baron.

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    I much prefer the company of young people and I play in a rock and roll band, performing the music of Fall Out Boy, the Killers and Green Day. And in general young people appreciate me. For one thing, I don't bitch at them about their smoking.

    If you think young people are wise enough to make their own choices and old people don't care... Then why do you want to entrust so many of the important things in life to governments??? Governments are run by old guys like Max and me!
     
  19. EmptyForceOfChi Banned Banned

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    lol fraggle, you just seemed to come off quite stuck up and snooty in your last postings, i respect your last post alot though, i was not generalising about older people, i respect age but i dont respect age as much as wisdom, put age and wisdom together and thats something i respect the most.


    i dont like any government by the way

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    not unless im the leader of it. i have read many of your posts and i think your are a very smart guy, you certainly know a huge variety of things, its like you know something about everything and quite in-depth aswell, not a jack of all trades atall.

    i get what your saying about smoking in your own home, and i think aslong as you dont make other people breathe in your fumes then its fine, but if your smoke is causing other people ahrm then thats not right, as for in public i guess itsa different story, but this thread is titled (ban smoking right now) so i thought that it was open to debate also,


    peace.
     
  20. Carcano Valued Senior Member

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    Tell your neighbour to put a plastic bag over his head while he smokes...secured at the neck with rubber tubeing.

    He can poison himself faster that way, without irritating others.
     
  21. Xelios We're setting you adrift idiot Registered Senior Member

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    Where I live it's illegal to smoke in any public place. That includes bars, restaraunts, public buildings, within 20 meters of the entrance to any public building, outdoor patios at bars/restaraunts, even the shisha bars have had to switch to non-tobacco products. Personally I think they're taking this a little too far, it should be left up to the owners of establishments like bars to decide whether or not to allow smoking in them.
     
  22. RubiksMaster Real eyes realize real lies Registered Senior Member

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    That's dumb. That's how they get their money. Everyone who goes to a hookah bar is there to smoke anyway. I don't smoke (i.e. I'm not addicted at all to nicotine) but I do enjoy my hookah, and I do know of a few hookah bars that got hurt when the regulations went into affect. They definitely take it too far.
     
  23. Xelios We're setting you adrift idiot Registered Senior Member

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    Exactly, if you go to a shisha bar you're there to smoke, it's the only reason they exist. The local shisha bars applied for an exception to the new laws but were turned down, they were told "Either switch to non-tobacco products or you're SOL"

    People in general are getting way too worked up about supposed health and safety risks. A person was killed on a section of road here last year, the first fatality in that area in over 10 years, and people were so outraged that they just started a 4 month construction job to 'make it safer'. "For public safety" is becoming a blanket excuse for all kinds of stupid laws and political initiatives.
     

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