Star Wars vs Star Trek

Same thing that happens when a 20 inch gun misses and hits something friendly....

 

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Well, then by you argument the Missouri and Michigan are inferior designs as is the Enterprise (aircraft carrier) and Kittyhawk.

 

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Only the Intrepicd and Defiant class have shown ability to land and escape gravity. The Defiant needing to be placed in a launch pad type situation to do so.

Becuase Beaming does not always work. Just about anything under the sun, and the sun itself for that matter can interfere with transporters.

Hell the statement was like miniature sun, meaning it could very well produce what our sun does but be mush small. Note also that the power needed to destroy alderaan in the way it was is equivalnet to 7 years of our suns energy and the DS can pump that out in short order.

As for the Starbase 1 line, prove it.

Paris was wrong, remember people are fallible. It was estimated that Voyager could reach alpha quadrant (a third the galay away) in 70 years. Han can cross a much larger galaxy in a matter of hours in the Millenium falcon.

I said they had a kinetic element to them, not just pure energy, but go ahead try to shoot them down. be an idiot

 

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dude don't mock the 501th legion

 

There's no reason to use the deathstar on earth. Slave1 could fly round the asteroid belt leaving dozens of sonicboms driving the whole belt towards the sun. Earth defenses would have a handfull with destroying all incoming hits. I'm sure they can manage to stand ground butt al the impacts can drive the moon closer towards earth. Or even destroy it. No moon - No earth.
and in all that tumult a few ISD can knock out the vessels.

If earth is destroyed the shock would be devastating to the federation although they would hold together.

So slave1 and a few ISD could do the trick. And the DS can remain as backup.


I wonder what would happen if the DS would fire on Jupiter? could that power turn Jupiter into a sun? just a question, anyone?

 

doesn't warp1 equal the speed of light ?
so warp9 equals 9 times speed of light
speed of light equals 200.000 m/s
so 9 times 200.000 ? anyone ?
1.800.000 m/s 1.8 MILLION not billion.

so 990 billions miles would equal more than 4.9million times the speed of light?

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I don't think so.

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Warp is not linear, it's exponential...

Warp is light speed where as warp 2 is 8x light where as warp 3 is 27 times the speed of light.

and so on. There are other systems for other series (TOS, TNG, Voy, and DS9 ships, being different eras and different levels of tech, though part of TNG and DS9 overlapped, have different warp speeds)

And, scott, you say he was wrong. Prove it. He was the damned navigator. if he doesn't know how fast he's going then there's a VERY LARGE problem.

Then again, if you can simply say he was mistaken, then I can simply say Han was bullshitting about the speed of the falcon.

And Vasago, you can't "sonic boom" in space... that requires a thick atmosphere.

Sonic Boom forms when soundwaves compress. Soundwaves don't rightly travel in space.

And Scott, to have KINETIC ENERGY, you MUST HAVE SOME MASS

This means impacts WILL destabilize / deflect your blaster fire... it means they CAN be destroyed. Anything with mass has a limit to the energy it can have. Worst case scenario- we hit the blaster bolt with enough energy to burn it into energetic Plasma (you know what plasma is right kiddo? Yeah? No? Okay, I'll tell you. It's matter on the verge of becoming PURE ENERGY. The Atomic nuclei has been stripped of the surrounding electrons I believe it is)

Now we have a pure energy that has a harmonic frequency we can simply rotate our shield frequency to protect against. Either way, we win

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And if transporters don't work, fine. HALO jumps (High Altitude, Low Opening) are possible via HEV suits. Shuttlepods, assault ships, the ARGO, delta flyer, and others could do the job nicely. Fuck, the captains shuttle on the Ent-E holds like, 40 people on it's own. And it's a lil shuttle!

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warp_drive

I do appologize- I realize I said billions instead of millions. Mistyped it

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Here is a quote from Wiki and you can find the exact same info on dozens if not hundreds of other sites.

 

Another reason ST > SW- people are trying to make Trek Tech now... I don't see many people working on force powers, laser blasters that can blow up planets, or hyperspace engines *laughs*

 

when an isd would land, drop ground assault team and machinery, and take off again; there would be thousands and thousands of troopers, droidikas, battledroids, gungans; you be even gunddowned before your 40 people would land.

 

Trekfans keep mentioning that phasers can't miss butt yet Quark can dodge a phaser in "Rascals"

btw luke mentioned that you can't see a thing in a stormtrooper helmet and believe me he's wright (wearing one myself on several occasions)

 

Phasers, even hand phasers, have small targeting computers in them that attempt to correct for the user's mistakes in aim. That is why sometimes the emitter front is NOT pointing 100% at the target- it can supposedly compensate for up to a 30* varience in aim. However, if there are multiple targets in the area that feature cannot be used with such a wide discrepency, so it is generally set for only a few degrees.

Transwarp is another warp system in itself. I'll see if I can find a good equation for it.

As for landing thousands at once- aighty then. I'll just drop a few isokinetic disintegrators and EMP bombs on you, then mass transport thousands of troops into the ISD and on the ground using dozens of assault ships.

Remember- even the Ent-D (not that great of a ship tech wise anymore) could work thusly:

3 primary transporter rooms.
5 emergency transporter rooms.
2 primary cargo bays with 1 primary and 3 secondary cargo and 1 mass transporter
2 secondary cargo bays with 2 cargo transporters each
Emiters that can beam up and down once every half second.
Shuttlecraft with long range transporters

and other such things. In the end, and I forget what the actual numbers are, but the Enterprise-D can beam up or down over 1000 people a second (evacuation purposes). This was stated in one of the episodes where they were looking at transporting almost 52,000 people should their planets core continue to destabilize.

The other thing is- Trek wouldn't send ground pounders to be honest. They'd send people in shielded fighters and attack shuttles and use smaller starships (like the Intrepid, Norway, and the scout class) to kill off the invading force. I doubt stormtrooper armor would withstand a class 10 starship phaser blast.

 

When you consider that the energy of the death star's super-laser was in the thousands of billions of gigatons, a mere 12.5 gigatons for the smaller surface guns doesn't seem that unreasonable.

 

Nasor, explain to me how it could be so powerful if the energy output of the whole station is only that of a SMALL star?

 

Also-

The SuperLaser uses a series of high energy capacitors to do it's thing... an easy way to defeat that would be an electromagnetic pulse which would make the whole circuit inductive thus causing it to destroy itself.

Wars may not have the technology to do that, but Trek sure does

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I don't know how they made it so powerful. It's imaginary technology, remember? But that doesn't change the fact that it demonstratably is that powerful.

Yes...I'm sure the death star stores its energy in a giant bank of electrolytic capacitors.

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REMEMBER! I'll say it once and I'll say it again, the Rebels aren't as technologically advanced as the Federation.

 

Wait, so your telling me, that those surface cannons are the DS's main defence against fighters? So your using 12.5 gigatons of kinetic energy, on a fleet of flimsy rushed X-Wings?!?:bugeye:

 

Now we're talking!! (I wonder which ship class would be fit with one of these?) Star Wars cannot tune their shield (or seamingly anything else) to a different frequency/modulation, meaning their shields could only stand up to certain kinds of threats. Making them prone to possibly and EMP blast or wave. And saying that SW shields aren't of the exact (or are completely different) same format of a ST shield, possibly making them prone to an away team.

 

Must I state the obvious? (Even though I've never seen this episode.) Quark obviously dodged it before the energy discharge was fired. (Was it a ship or a type II phaser pistol?)