Gun Control, Really?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Woody, Apr 19, 2007.

  1. Mrhero54 Registered Senior Member

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    North Carolina, aka The Cakalac, which is part of The Dirty South aka The 3rd Coast?
     
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  3. redarmy11 Registered Senior Member

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    <Thinks>


    <Thinks some more..>


    <Double-thinks>


    <Goes all-out for the ultimate think, with a triple order of think on the side>


    What about the person who shot him... did he have the opportunity?

    <Wonders if he passed the necessary background checks>
     
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  5. EmptyForceOfChi Banned Banned

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    i dont know where to stand on this issue, but it does seem like people are saying more guns will mean no difference in gun related death, and to me thats illogical.

    i dont have much against people owning weapons, hell i own crossbows, bows, a harpoon, tens of swords, daggers, pro slingshots, pistol crossbows, high powered air rifles, high pressure bb guns, hunting knives, spears, kwan daos, grappling hooks, hand claws, shuriken, throwing stars. caultrops, nunchakas, sais, tonfas, coshes, batons, staffs, maces, morning stars, axes, etc etc etc i used to own real guns illegaly but not anymore, but seriously i have so many weapons my home is like an armoury and thats no lie,

    so due to that i cant realy say "im against guns" because i own weapons and guns are no different apart from a bit more potent than my collection,


    but i gues in all fairness people, you must admit that if the government cracked down on guns and tried its very hardest to outlaw any type of fire arm then there would most likely be less gun related deaths,


    but like my collection shows you dont need a pistol to kick some serious ass

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    there plenty of choice when it comes to choosing your tool of destruction, ahhhh yeahhhhh,


    peace.
     
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  7. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    But it still is not the responsibility of the police to protect you as a individual, and that is settled case law all the way to the Supreme Court, they don't even have to respond when called, and you can't even sue them for not protecting you, so guess what, your defense fall squarely on your own shoulders, and there are many way beyond hands, rocks, or guns to kill multiple persons, fire bombs, chemicals, explosives, all can be made with common chemicals available from you local farm supply or industrial cleaning chemicals, or even the chemicals that you use for cleaning your own home, and claymore mines are simple to make and very effective in taking down multiple targets, mass murder anyone?
     
  8. EmptyForceOfChi Banned Banned

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    who needs protection from the police. i protect myself and my family with my fighting skills and my weapons.


    as NWA said fuck the police, why do you think i want to be allowed to own a gun, so i can blast the mother fucker who wants to do me harm ofcourse.


    buffalo your like a broken record sometimes maybe i should bust a few caps in your area where the buffalo dont roam.

    im joking but you are gay sometimes man

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  9. EmptyForceOfChi Banned Banned

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    oh and i would refrain from telling people to make chemical weapons and bombs before the government think you are part of a terrorist cell and try to bust your ass.

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  10. Raithere plagued by infinities Valued Senior Member

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    And the other purpose?

    No, they envisioned a trained populous and were quite specific in intent:

    ~Raithere
     
  11. spuriousmonkey Banned Banned

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    I think you hit the truth here. American society has changed. Maybe guns were handled more responsibly when you were young, but the current society has created an individual that lost all sense of social responsibility.
     
  12. Woody Musical Creationist Registered Senior Member

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    Easily accessible cars means you can run over somebody intentionally.
     
  13. spuriousmonkey Banned Banned

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    cars should be illegal too.
     
  14. Woody Musical Creationist Registered Senior Member

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    I know of responsible gun collectors.
     
  15. Woody Musical Creationist Registered Senior Member

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    Nobody can argue that if you put everyone in prision and take away all their rights, you will reduce murders.
     
  16. Roman Banned Banned

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    I know of gun collectors that shoot up schools.
     
  17. spuriousmonkey Banned Banned

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    I'm sure that there will be responsible collectors of nuclear weapons if they would be sold to civilians.
     
  18. spuriousmonkey Banned Banned

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    Not really, the US has most people in prison of any nation and still you seem to suffer from more murders than nations that have a factor 10 less people in prison.
     
  19. Woody Musical Creationist Registered Senior Member

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    Who might that be, and why would they shoot up a school? Don't their parents have a say in it? Minors can't purchase guns can they? So who is breaking the law for them?
     
  20. The Devil Inside Banned Banned

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    this is because it is acceptable for everything but the party line to be illegal in the states.

    totalitarianism-lite! now with more illusion of freedom!!!
     
  21. Roman Banned Banned

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    Turn on your tv.
    It's probably already on. Swtich the channel back to fox.

    I don't see what that has to do with... oh, it's an asian joke, huh?
    Haha, that's pretty good.
     
  22. Woody Musical Creationist Registered Senior Member

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    The average prisoner serves less than half his sentence here in the US. Liberals want them to blend in with the rest of society when they get out, and the cycle starts all over again. About 80% become reapeat offenders.
     
  23. Woody Musical Creationist Registered Senior Member

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    It hasn't changed at christian schools. They are quite peaceful really -- very little violence is found there. My daughter went to one for a year just to see what it was like.

    The trouble typically seems to come from broken families and economically disadvantaged. Typically they have a lower intelligence:

    Economic and social correlates of IQ in the USA IQ <75 75–90 90–110 110–125 >125
    U.S. population distribution 5 20 50 20 5
    Married by age 30 72 81 81 72 67
    Out of labor force more than 1 month out of year (men) 22 19 15 14 10
    Unemployed more than 1 month out of year (men) 12 10 7 7 2
    Divorced in 5 years 21 22 23 15 9
    % of children w/ IQ in bottom decile (mothers) 39 17 6 7 < 1
    Had a baby outside of marriage (mothers) 32 17 8 4 2
    Lives in poverty 30 16 6 3 2
    Ever incarcerated (men) 7 7 3 1 < 1
    Chronic welfare recipient (mothers) 31 17 8 2 < 1
    High school dropout 55 35 6 0.4 < 0.4
    Values are the percentage of each IQ sub-population, among non-Hispanic whites only, fitting each descriptor. Compiled by Gottfredson (1997) from a U.S. study by Herrnstein & Murray (1994) pp. 171, 158, 163, 174, 230, 180, 132, 194, 247–248, 194, 146 respectively.

    to make sense of this table check the reference:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iq
     

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