Star Wars vs Star Trek

Star Trek point defenses utterly own Star Wars missile weapons. The inherent effect of a phaser burst (which stands to reason can be pulsed, spread, varied, and otherwise changed just like a hand phaser) renders most missile weapons useless. The only reason torpedo's are effective is because they are a warp-speed capable weapon. Even then, the Nebula class is able to shoot those down.

 

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Really, torpedoes are Warp speed? Only if the ship launching them is doing warp at the time, don't try to lie here. It is completely unbecoming.

Besides Proton Torpedos are shielded as are Energy Torps and the much Larger Assault Concusion missle can take a hit or two from Twin Laser cannons. Phasers would hardly be a credible defense against them. Besides if you are using phasers for defense what are you firing at the ISD bearing down on you? Just the Photon Torpedos, right? Your measly 64 megaton(at the absolute best) warheads are not even going to strain the shields unless fired by the hundred. Face it even if a battle group of sixty Star trek vessels jumped an Imperial Star Destroyer the battle is lost for the Star trek side.

 

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He's not wrong...torpedos use warp drive to travel.

We've seen that when ambassador K'Lar was transported view a torpedo casing that was traveling at (if I remeber, warp 9) It mainted it's flight on it's own.

Torpedos may not travel at warp speed often or even light speed but that's the reason why we see a difference in torpedo speed (the movie's Fast torpedoes) (TNG) slower more manueverable and homing ability and more destructive.

 

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Plus...TWSCOTT is wrong on STAR WARS fire power...It's uncanon.

 

Wow if they have 60 Turbolaser tower, how come i only see them ever using one? I never see 60 X 2 turbo bolts flying from ship. At most i see is three. Well, the other 59 must be broken. opps! Ion cannons? forget about it, they dont have that eithor or they would have used it to disabel princess leia ship. So by your data all empires ship are hunks of junk With fire power of garbage scowl.

Ilmao, but sorry you are still are doomed. So horribly it isn't even funny, not only do i say your ship suck but you just proved it with your pathetic attempt prove that have more fire power, then they ever used in the films. We will take your entire fleet out with shuttles. One shot to bridge and your ship will do 360 u turn and crash in to nearest planet, death star, it all same.

Ilmao nice jop nooby!

 

Good deductive reasoning Dontai...

 

Don't forget the incursion class timeship from Voyager

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Protected by temporal shielding, it is able to make foyers into the past to change events that happened their without affecting it's own future directly. This enables the ship and her crew to not experience the paradoxial affects of meddling with the past

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It'd jump back in time, nuke the planets that civilized star-wars life came from back to the stone age, and be done with it.

So, yeah, buh-bai!

 

Thank you

good plan o yes let not forget uss preminition, who could simply travel back in time to when empor was just child, and shove torpedo mile high up is ass blow him and his future to holy high heaven. Hope he blow up scotts future to high heaven ass well.

 

Problem is my friend only one of those seems to have existed. Otherwise there would have been evidence of more. Second if the Intrepid class Star Ships was able to defeat one then I doubt it would fair well at all in the Star Wars universe, especially since unless the 29th century vessel has the complete history of the universe they would have idea where to go or what to do. Also they can make all the foyers they want, but I doubt entryways into homes are going to have much of an effect. Finally given how reslient the universe and Timeline is, and considering what happened when that ship did try to change the past it is well with in Star Trek canon to state that the Temporal Interdiction would be the cuase of the of Star Wars massive superiority.

So stick it up your arse.

 

Well, since Palpatine lived to be Emperor I guess not only did you fail, but failed miserably. that would 40-Love Star Wars the victor, game, set, and match.

 

First of all they did use Ion cannons on the Tantive IV. Unfortunately all that does is short out controls. Meaning that hey those thrusters you had going full power are still going full power. Second you see more than five Turbolaers used in that opening sequence. The reason more weren't used there is that they needed to question survivors. Same thing in the cchase through the Asteroid belt in ESB. Watch RoTJ again and you'll see that the ships have many, many cannons. See the point to EU is that it is canon unless the move DIRECTLY disputes it. If some one with authority said in any of the movies that a Star Destroyer only had one cannon then you would have an argument, but you don't

BTW what the hell is a garbage scowl, some sort of facial expression? I mean I know what a garbage scow is, but not the garbage scowl.

 

So, stick the fact you have no idea what your talking about up your arse? What the fick is a arse? Trying say ass in same way you say your argument which i might add goes absolutely go no were. At this point i give up, you wont even listen to your own movie cuase how full of your self you are. It as if your own cock is shoved up your ass or arse if you want to be nooby and say it like that and your loveing every min of it. Also voyager didn't fight uss relativity. Second only reason they won against time ship is becuase they can't die, but infact they did die several times in fact.

Only one existed becuase they haven't found any other, becuase that would go aginst temporal prime directive and only reason why they even met uss relativity in becuase of a few incident that had to change. Also what is Temporal Interdiction would be the cuase of the of Star Wars massive superiority. That load of horse wankers.

That is so stupid to point im utterly bewildered. All i can say is your in idiot.

First of all i know they didn't use a ion cannon, since you saw a ion cannon on hoth, so no they didn't use it on the Tantive IV and your bigger idiot then i thought. Second i have read damned script they didnt used ion cannon and they only had few turret. Not f'n 60. They didn't even have ion cannon in the script. They only had them on planets. Third ion cannons just dont short out controls. It stopped star destroyer in one shot and it was going full speed. Yet, it couldn't stop single small corvet class? My god imperial technology is more back word then i thought. No, their wasn't more than five Turbolaers used in that opening sequence. I counted, their was three blaster bolts fired over and over again doing next to no damage. Lucky for imperial the rebel reactor cores sucks; almost blew your own ship up.

Same thing in the chase through the Asteroid belt in ESB. Could have wipe intire Asteroid belt out if they used all 60, but no they used one, because your stupidity made emperor cry. On more real note they only use one in that sceen as well. Watch RoTJ, still only see three bolts per ship. Sure their is 50 ship, but their still firing three bolts each, but still three polts per ship. Hmmm guess their ship are still broken or mabey you broke them with your stupidity?

I give up, trek didn't just win, 2/3 of Any thing made by star wars is stupid. I mean imperials are idiots, hafe of the movies fan are idiots. Nothing about the films make since. We would win so easily i might well not even bother sending garbage scow, might as well send in fighters. Your f'n command ship was taking out by a fighter you idiot and you can still say you can win. My god i give up your to stupid to be human.

God, sombody help this guy ...

 

Why would anyone need to help me? I am the one on the winning side of this argument. Only fallacies and Ad hominems have come out of your mouth. No facts, numbers, or anything even resembling evidence.

Ion Cannons used on the Tantive IV: In more than novelization and radio drama the Tantive IV had been struck by a few Ion Cannons before Lord Vader reminded the crew he needed the stolen plans, or at least the Logs of transmission. Using EMP devices would likely remove evidence. This was off screen and not seen on film, which was at the pint the gunners were trying deseperately to hem in the corvette and disable it without destroying it or any evidence.

Ion cannon used in ESB: The Hoth based Ion canon was a planetary defense Ion Cannon, much more powerful than the ones carried by Star Destroyers. If you will remember the ISD struck by the pair of bolts had just positioned itself and came to a full stop hovering over the planet. The Ion bolts struck twice shorting out all controls and that meant the contragravity drive that kept it in place.

As for the rest of you Bullshit Dontai, you've already been proven that you are incapable of intelligent argument. You raise no points at all and have failed to prove anything except that it does not take intelligence to flame.

 

Your five mile command battle ship SSD was taken out by 20 feet long fighter.


You Loose

 

First of all 12 -18 km is 7.5-11.2 miles.
Second: 12 meters is ~39.4 feet.
Third: Was it the only craft to take firing on the Space Station (Yes, the Executor is a mobile Space Station) in question? No. We know from the movies that it had been in battle for several minutes with dozen of capaital ships firing gigaton level blasts at point blank range. The ship was weathering quite well despite the concentrated barrages of hundred of turbolaser cannons firing at it. Not to mention the fighter strafing and multiple proton torpedo strikes. Even after the A-wing blows throught the bridge (only possible becuase the Bridge shields were out) the ship had suffered only minor damage in terms of combat ability. If it's controls had not been shorted out and the ship accelerating into a dive inot the Death Star nuetronium armor belt, it probably would have returned to battle, scarred but still functional.

Go peddle you oversimplification elsewhere before I mention for Federation and Kingon ships respond to rammings.


BTW: I am not loose unless your name happens to be Veronica Zemanova.

 

According to TOS episode "The Paradise Syndrome", the Enterprise would not be able to deal with a civilization-ending asteroid within 4 hours time.

 

Your 7.5-11.2 miles command battle ship SSD was taken out by 29.4 feet long fighter. :bugeye:

You Lose

 

You are over simplifying. It is a sign of the truly inept

Was that Particular A-Wing the only ship firing on the Executor? No, we know from the movies that Admiral Ackbar had ordered ever rebel ship to fire on the Super Star Destroyer and that this had been maintian for at least a minute before the A-wing crashed through the bridge.


Was the Executor crippled or destroy as a direct result of the fighter impact? No, the Executor lurched, swerved and then accelerated into the Death Star. If there had no obstacle in her way it is very probable that her crew would have gotten her under control and either left battle or rejoined.


Now these two points alone prove your desperation and disregard for canon and the facts, Dontai. Now that you have taken your Imperial Smack Down, I suggest you go back to class and start paying attention. I realize 7th grade is hard, but believe me life is harder.

 

YOU LOOSE! GOOD DAY SIR!

So long Scotty Boiyo, guess it's high time you run home to mamma bear and pappa bear! Don't forget to eat goldilocks out when ya go!

 

So, your whole argument is "You Loose! Good day, Sir!"? Hmmm. Interesting, I checked with the doctor none of my joints seems to be loose. Then I recalled recent sexual history and even if you stretch the term loose to fit men, I'm not. Seems to me that you have noo argument and are resort to a screaming match.

Now unless you have a legitimate argument that relies on Star trek and Star Wars canon and proper uses of logic, I am afraid that Star Trek is indeed forfeiting. Not that they ever had a chance at winning.