Bridge to Sri Lanka

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  1. spookz Banned Banned

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    Anybody not wearing 2 million sunblock is gonna have a real bad day. Get it?” --Sarah Connor, Terminator 2

    ...a single projectile
    Charged with all the power of the Universe.
    An incandescent column of smoke and flame
    As bright as the thousand suns
    Rose in all its splendour...
    a perpendicular explosion
    with its billowing smoke clouds...
    ...the cloud of smoke
    rising after its first explosion
    formed into expanding round circles
    like the opening of giant parasols...

    ..it was an unknown weapon,
    An iron thunderbolt,
    A gigantic messenger of death,
    Which reduced to ashes
    The entire race of the Vrishnis and the Andhakas.
    ...The corpses were so burned
    As to be unrecognisable.
    The hair and nails fell out;
    Pottery broke without apparent cause,
    And the birds turned white.

    After a few hours
    All foodstuffs were infected...
    ...to escape from this fire
    The soldiers threw themselves in streams
    To wash themselves and their equipment

    verses from the Mahabharata

    "Interestingly, Manhattan Project chief scientist Dr J. Robert Oppenheimer was known to be familiar with ancient Sanskrit literature. In an interview conducted after he watched the first atomic test, he quoted from the Bhagavad Gita: "'Now I am become Death, the Destroyer of Worlds.' I suppose we all felt that way." When asked in an interview at Rochester University seven years after the Alamogordo nuclear test whether that was the first atomic bomb ever to be detonated, his reply was, "Well, yes, in modern history."

    "Ancient cities whose brick and stonewalls have literally been vitrified, that is, fused together, can be found in India, Ireland, Scotland, France, Turkey and other places. There is no logical explanation for the vitrification of stone forts and cities, except from an atomic blast.

    Another curious sign of an ancient nuclear war in India is a giant crater near Bombay. The nearly circular 2,154-metre-diameter Lonar crater, located 400 kilometres northeast of Bombay and aged at less than 50,000 years old, could be related to nuclear warfare of antiquity. No trace of any meteoric material, etc., has been found at the site or in the vicinity, and this is the world's only known "impact" crater in basalt. Indications of great shock (from a pressure exceeding 600,000 atmospheres) and intense, abrupt heat (indicated by basalt glass spherules) can be ascertained from the site. "


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  3. Avatar smoking revolver Valued Senior Member

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    yes- I knew about this
    amazing, isn't it?

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  5. spookz Banned Banned

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    vitrification in all its mad glory

    Probably the most famous of all ancient "nuke 'em" stories is the well-known biblical tale of Sodom and Gomorrah:

    And the Lord said, Because the cry of Sodom and Gomorrah is great, and because their sin is very grievousÉ Then the Lord rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah, brimstone and fire from the Lord out of heaven; And he overthrew those cities, and all the plain, and all the inhabitants of the cities, and that which grew upon the ground. But his [Lot's] wife looked back from behind him, and she became a pillar of saltÉ And lo, the smoke of the country went up as the smoke of a furnace. (Genesis 18:20; 19:24-26,28)

    This biblical passage has come to epitomise the destructive power of God's wrath visited on those places which sin. The Bible is very specific about the site of Sodom and Gomorrah plus several other towns; they were in the Vale of Siddim, which was located at the southern end of the Salt Sea (now called the Dead Sea). Other towns in the area, according to the Bible, were Zoar, Admah and Zeboiim (Genesis 14:2). As late as the Middle Ages, a town called Zoar existed in the area.

    The Dead Sea is 1,293 feet [394 metres] below sea level and at least 1,200 feet [365 m] deep. The bottom of the sea is therefore about 2,500 feet [762 m] below the level of the Mediterranean. Approximately 25 per cent of the water of the Dead Sea consists of solid ingredients, mostly sodium chloride. Normal ocean water is around 4.6 per cent salt. The Jordan and many smaller rivers empty themselves into this basin, which has no solitary outlet. What its tributaries bring to it in the way of chemical substances remain deposited in the Dead Sea's 500 square miles. Evaporation under the broiling sun takes place on the surface of the sea at a rate of over 230 million cubic feet per day. Arab tradition has it that so many poisonous gases come out of the lake that birds could not fly across it, as they would die before reaching the other side.


    Vitrified Ruins in California's Death Valley

    The most numerous vitrified remains in the New World are located in the western United States. In 1850 the American explorer Captain Ives William Walker was the first to view some of these ruins, situated in Death Valley. He discovered a city about a mile long, with the lines of the streets and the positions of the buildings still visible. At the center he found a huge rock, between 20 to 30 feet high, with the remains of an enormous structure atop it. The southern side of both the rock and the building was melted and vitrified. Walker assumed that a volcano had been responsible for this phenomenon, but there is no volcano in the area. In addition, tectonic heat could not have caused such a liquefication of the rock surface.


    Vitrified Ruins in France, Turkey and the Middle East

    Vitrified forts in France are discussed in the American Journal of Science (vol. 3, no. 22, 1881, pp. 150-151) in an article entitled "On the Substances Obtained from Some 'Forts Vitrifiés' in France", by M. Daubrée. The author mentions several forts in Brittany and northern France whose granite blocks have been vitrified. He cites the "partially fused granitic rocks from the forts of Château-vieux and of Puy de Gaudy (Creuse), also from the neighbourhood of Saint Brieuc (Côtes-du-Nord)".10 Daubrée, understandably, could not readily find an explanation for the vitrification.

    Similarly, the ruins of Hattusas in central Turkey, an ancient Hittite city, are partially vitrified. TheHittites are said to be the inventors of the chariot, and horses were of great importance to them. It is on the ancient Hittite stelae that we first see a depiction of the chariot in use. However, it seems unlikely that horsemanship and wheeled chariots were invented by the Hittites; it is highly likely that chariots were in use in ancient China at the same time.


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  7. kmguru Staff Member

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    History always repeats in a type 13 planet....

    A global nuclear holocaust...

    This is what our fate will be...

    That is why, I would like to see a lot of time capsules spread out all over the planet that can survive nuclear radiation and atleast 100,000 years.

    I wonder how many times we have gone through this over 3 billion years?
     
  8. UltiTruth In pursuit... Registered Senior Member

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    The Ramayana talks of some monkey like humans, with tails and lots of body hair, having constructed the bridge to Lanka. Maybe this indicates that the people who did this were more than regular humans, who had probably some additional faculties than we do. And the stones used for the bridge were said to have floated on water! Could this be the work of some differently enabled humans of the time? (And may be even the Pyramids)
    The leader of the monkey race, a revered God for Hindus (Hanuman) was said to be capable of flying across the sea, while the others in his kin could plunge varying distances. Hanuman as a child was actually said to have flown towards the Sun, mistaking it to be an edible fruit.

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    Was just wondering if the various differently empowered races finally diminished leaving just the humans, as we are today. Or are we just one isolated and lost bit from the whole?
    The epics also talk about 14 different worlds (Lokas) with each inhabited by a different race, some of them being Manava (Human), Gandharva, Yaksha, Kinnera, Kimpurusha and so on. Interestingly, some of them had some special powers. All of them of course, looking at the much more powerful Trinity, who were omnipresent. There are innumerable mentions of space ships and the ability to change body form (kama roopa), disappearing (much like in Star Trek!) and so on.
    So, I think the alien theories and the existence of much more evolved civilizations possibilities to be explored. Was it a group of various civilizations that had contacts across?
    Greets.
     
  9. kmguru Staff Member

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    First of all, anything after the vedas is after the fact. That is all Indian mythology and history (puranas) are based on information passed down for generations in vocal form (from Sruti). Assuming there was a mega civilization before vedas - some catastrophe, man made or natural created an environment that lost the first hand knowledge. On the other hand there may be some document that was uncovered later on that explains how a battery was made etc.

    Either way, the very fact that information was passed on from mouth to ear several generations means, the information has been corrupted and need cleansing. What is true and what is the over active imagination of people that never saw the past - we do not know.

    So, it is difficult to get a clear picture. However there may be somethings we could guess based on extrapolation from present day scenarios. For example: imagine there is a pacific island where people have never seen the gizmos and gadgets of the 20th century. If you bring one person out of it to spend a few years in a modern western city and send him back - he will have a hard time explaining what he saw. Even worse, some one in the island that trascribed his explanation will have a different take.

    While everything would be the truth - it would be the way the traslator saw or heard. We need to think in that terms and try to get a better idea rather than taking the words literally.

    May be a natural evolution of monkeys are not humans but monkey people with tails. Floating rocks could be super large size styrofoam. Flying in the air could be via jet packs or anti-gravity belts. Different races of people could be just that.

    If there was trade and commerce between the planets, there is no way all the planets could be destroyed. All it takes is one space ship to travel and reunite the planets. And if these people did travel, they must have some artifacts left on the moon, mars or in deep space as a warning beacon or satellite relay station. Any satellite left on earth would have been fallen into the sea by now, but deep space stations should be there. We have not found any artifacts in space yet!

    We need to keep digging until we find something.....
     
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  11. Avatar smoking revolver Valued Senior Member

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    actually there is some links that Egyptians had a battery, also Jews (the Ark) , also a tribe that I forgot the name for - they were desert warriors- they used wine as a catalist. Works today.
    They filled jars full of wine and placed metal plates in it and connected them in circle (thus achieving bigger power). Then they linked them to a jar of water and put in there metal objects which then through galvanisation(sp) covered in silver
     
  12. The Rock Registered Member

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    Well.... I think this possibly cant be man-made. Jus Think, a man made bridge over 70,000 year ago. What was it made of that survived so long.

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    ...... or maybe the aliens on earth theory was true..

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    .. researching on this i found out at some places that the composition of this was cocunut wood, leaves, and all other raw material.. Which none of convinced me that would stand even more than 200 yrs. Hmmm.. and even if it survived half a wave or simple breeze could b enough to destroy it i suppose.. Hmm... nice topic to use ur brains on dont u think.. :bugeye:
     
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    I suppose the Sri Lanka Tombolo was not notable since it was not listed....or perhaps it is not...Ramayana talks about rocks being deposited by thousands of monkey looking people to create the bridge so that soldiers can pass to fight. Perhaps, there was a natural formation that was 300 feet under water that got covered up with rocks....

    As to aliens, Ramayana talks about Vimanas....until we find the engine somewhere in Sri Lanka...that would remain a myth...start digging....

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    Since they didn't spend all their time sitting at the TV or their computer keyboards, ancient peoples were very observant of the environment around them. They saw things, such as Mount Olympus in Greece, El Capitan in the U.S., etc. etc. and incorporated them into stories of supernatural beings and mythical or mythologized ancestors. (Scientific documentation is in the same tradition even if it uses a different approach of systemized observation and testing.) During the ice age when the ocean was several hundred meters lower, early people must have observed this bridge and constructed stories around it, as they have done with nearly every other significant land form. These stories were probably eventually elaborated or synthesized with other stories into the Ramayana. Today, when we are left with the story but not with the bridge, sudden evidence from outer space is taken as confirmation of the story, when it is really the other way around. Regarding nuclear war: there were vulcanos, meteor hits, forest fires, and so forth. Similarly the great flood stories also had ice-age origins in glacial lake outflows and the in-flow of the ocean into land basins such as the Mediterrean, Black and Caspian seas. Even the fall of Adam and Eve was likely an allegory for hunter and gatherer cultures being overrun by an agricultural ones, which was and continues to be a truly catastrophic event for such cultures all over the world.
     
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    I might add that anything is possible in this universe -- for all we know monkey beings swarmed through a worm hole from another galaxy and constructed this land bridge. However, until science has evidence otherwise, it goes to the simplist explanation for which we have evidence. Rather than resorting to exceptionalism, it looks for parallels elsewhere in other societies and other natural processes.

    We see tombolos and understand their formation elsewhere (even the supposedly well-engineered shape is a product of certain configuration of waves; also the continents aren't immobile and over 2 million years Sri Lanka moved significantly in relation to the Indian subcontinent, so why isn't this bridge correspondingly damaged?). And we see how people construct stories around landforms and events everywhere, but monkeys doing this only occurred in one place and one culture. Though a wonderful story full of powerful imagery significant to the culture and people who constructed it, the story has no validity as a scientific explanation. It seems to me that if we have monkeys here we should have them everywhere -- but it is coyote, crow, bear and corn beings in North America; jaguar in Central America; spider in equitorial Africa, polar bear and raindeer beings in arctic cultures, and so forth.
     
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    If anyone has Google Earth, I recomend you take a look down there. The resolution is much higher than the photo in the original post. I see lots of barrier beaches/islands and a coral reef. Nothing there suggests a human origin to me.
     
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    Dear All, All your thoughts are very nice. Some written about scriptural evidences and some about imaginative speculations. Fine..... Looks all our life will end sooner in a span of 100 years. We are trying to exploer what is the evolution process and how old is human existance. It is certainly illogical to judge on the basis of speculation, because our senses are absolutely very limited. Just for instance, our eyes cannot see anything without help of light. In the darkness we have so much of limitations. We cannot perceive color beyond vibgyor range. Our ear can listen to only limited decibals. A Dog can better hear sound than humans. So, I vote here for hearing from ancient scriptures. I agree there could be some corruption in the modern days. But see here... just 200-300 years ago ..... I have seen in museums those gigantic ARMOURS they wear during war fare.... one of our Mr.man (not mentioning his name) of our city came to lift and could not. But those real armours were used and they used to run and fight..... You will go mad with dis-spell if you see such existing proof of strength that exisited just in 2 centuries ago.... Even they are twice taller then today's average man height...... So lets be precautious before pronouncing speculation also... I dont mean to hurt anyone here... but wanted to mention the absolute reality of supreme forces that exisited in the past. So man-made bridge those days wouldnt have been a great deal at all. Thanks folks.
     
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    And someone will say that American Indians did not come from Asia through Alaska because there is no proof that there were roads back then....

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  20. jumpercable 6EQUJ5 'WOW' Registered Senior Member

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    I was hopeful the Neanderthals might have had some hand in building it, but it looks like a bunch of very primative apes beat them to it instead.
     
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    There were no Neanderthals in this region of the world. Hominids at the point it was formed several million years ago didn't "construct" things.

    The feature isn't a mystery or of significance to those educated in geology (as I have noted in this thread or elsewhere). The geologic processes that are responsible are well-understood and predicted.

    But for the significance-junkie and mystery-monger, eager to find wild speculations that tug at their sense of incredulity without allowing themselves to be mildly educated, such features are completely baffling and evidence of ... something! What, specifically, they've no idea (the handicapped education, remember?), but they just "know" it's something.
     
  22. jumpercable 6EQUJ5 'WOW' Registered Senior Member

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    Sounds like you might have had the qualifications to join the primative dudes who made it or could have made it. But for the sake of geology and anthropology, let's be glad you were not there. Try building a pyramid next time out.
     
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    Your post is completely nonsensical.
     

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