Wimpish Society

Oh God.

What now?

You're going to say skin cancer does not exist and it is all a ruse to suit 'skin cancer inc.'?

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Don't want to use sunscreen because you "know" as much as you think you do? Fine. Don't use it. But don't whine when you get sunburnt and then possibly find yourself having to have skin cancers removed a few years down the track.

And you want to know what I know about skin cancer? My father in law recently had a massive melanoma removed from his arm, leaving a huge dent in the tissue, because it was a malignant melanoma. His younger sister is currently battling cancer that has spread throughout her body and basically now only has a few months to live. What type of cancer did she first have and was not caught in time? Skin cancer. How did they get the skin cancers that now plague them? Never used sunscreen when they were young and they are very fair people. Now they know what it is and what caused it. So you're damn right that there is no excuse to not use it. Short of someone having a severe allergy to the stuff, you should put the damn stuff on when facing exposure to the sun. It is common sense to do so and it will save you and your family a lot of grief later on in life. One might say that we should consider ourselves educated enough to know better now days. You might disagree on mere principle (if you have any), but that's just you.

 

For the moment it is the best thing available to us, aside from not staying longer than a few minutes in the sun without being covered by clothes.

As to the links regarding how much it helps prevent skin cancer. The articles you provided merely said that people just tended to stay out longer when wearing higher level SPF sunscreens without reapplying it, usually every couple of hours, and more often if you go in the water. I've seen people go to the beach, slap on a thick layer before leaving and then never reapplying it. Amazingly they are suprised when they come home sunburnt 6 hours later.:bugeye:

I'd believe it.

It did go on to say this however:

The article did say however that there are other factors that may affect one's chances of suffering from melanoma's. However, it also clearly stated that it was better to be safer than sorry and to take all current preventions currently available, including sunscreens.

I found this to be interesting as well on that site:

And as the site kept repeating, people need to alter their behaviour. Check what sunscreen you are using, avoid going out in the sun during the hottest times of the day when the sun's rays are known to be the strongest, sit in shade whenever possible (especially if you have young children) and reapply your sunscreen as directed and not just applying it once and then ignoring the fact that it does need to be reapplied.

From another one of your links, it basically advocates common sense. Using sunscreen does not mean that you should fry yourself in the sun.

Even with sunscreen, you need to limit exposure to the sun. Common sense really.

Does using sunscreen make you a wimp (sorry trying to tie this back into this thread

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).. well I don't think it does. But even if there were such a remote possibility, I'd rather be a wimp and have a less chance of contracting the disease than trying to not be a wimp and get the disease. And seeing that cancer is not something that is non-existent in my own family and in my husband's family as well, I make sure my son gets just the amount he needs for his absorption of Vitamin D and that the sunscreen we use is one that covers both UVA and UVB and he doesn't spend long in the sun. As even your articles have said, common sense. I'd rather be safer than sorry. If that makes me a wimp, then I am happily a wimp!

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Metakron

You are insane!

I believe that HIV exists and you do not. Leave it there. If you can't handle it, then that is your problem and yours alone.

If you feel the need to speak out about my believing HIV exists, I would suggest you take it to one of the many threads you have started on that very issue. I am giving you a stern warning here Meta. Do not think that I will allow you to troll through this particular forum and derail threads because you have a personal issue with me or my stance on HIV. There are other forums available if you wish to bitch about me or my stance on HIV. You are also free to complain to the Admin if you don't like me, etc.

 

I am very well aware that I was the one who brought up your dissident views on HIV. My warning came when I noticed your attempt to derail this discussion to suit your own purposes and I was warning you that it would not be appreciated or tolerated.

I don't give a crap if people think I am a hypocrite. You have complained? Good. Now lets move on shall we?

 

Beg yours?

I think that is one's own actions and inactions that makes one a wimp. No one can make you into wimp.

For example, lets say someone dared you to jump off a cliff. Would you do it because refusing the dare would make you look like a wimp, keeping in mind the dire warnings from anyone with some common sense that jumping of a cliff could actually kill you? Funnily this actually happened in Australia recently, where a 21 year old was dared by his friends to jump off a cliff and the fool did it. He sparked a massive search and rescue mission when he failed to resurface and was feared drowned by his friends. Link

Now if you see someone you know being dared to jump off a cliff. Would you call him wimp if he refused the dare? Or would you be one of the "screamers" and tell him to not do it because he could end up dying?

As for listening to the dire warnings. In regards to skin cancer, I would be a fool not to, especially when my husband's aunt is now literally losing the battle with cancer, which had originally started as skin cancer. And also the fact that his father also had to remove a massive melanoma from his arm and is not undergoing chemo and radiation treatment. You're damn straight I am going to ensure my 16 month old wears sunscreen and does not stay in the sun for long. I too have had a few suspicious moles removed from my back, which appeared in my teens after many instances of really bad sunburn, and I am olive skinned. Does it make me a wimp? I don't care. Will it make my son into a wimp? Again, I don't care. I'd rather he be a wimp and not have to suffer the horrors my husband's aunt is going through at the moment, or the pain and suffering his father is going through.

I also stop him from leaping from the back of the couch because I don't want him to break any limbs. And I don't let him touch the poisonous cleaning fluid in the locked cabinet in the laundry because I don't want him to kill himself. I guess I'm strange that way.

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How am I neurotic? Because I put sunscreen on my child and don't let him leap off things that will result in his either breaking his neck or limbs? You ever seen a baby with severe sun burn Meta? I have and I can assure you, I will do my best to ensure my child never has to go through the pain of bad sunburn. I've experienced it as a child and I would hate to imagine that kind of pain and discomfort in a baby. I also don't let him into the swimming pool by himself, nor do I leave him in the bath by himself.

I don't let him play with sharp knives and scissors as well.

But lets analyse my so called neurosis and their consequences. Am I neurotic in not wanting my son to come down with a disease that his family has shown itself prone to suffering? Now if it were a diseases that one could not prevent, then yes, one could say that my actions might be neurotic. However skin cancer is preventable for the most part.

So as a parent, it would be prudent for me to ensure that he takes as much precautions as possible, especially now as a child when his skin is the most sensitive, would it not? After all oh great Meta.. man of no neurosis

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.. wouldn't you wish to ensure your child remain as safe as possible?

And what are the consequences of my actions towards ensuring my son's well being and safety? Do tell Meta.

Are you neurotic when you wear a seatbelt when you get in a car? Or are you being cautious? And what are the possible consequences of you not wearing a seatbelt?