Disturbing New Illegal Drug

The other day I was offered a new drug which scares me beyond anything I've ever come accross. I don't know what it is called but the kid who offered it to me said the following: Its very much like MDMA (ecstacy "happy drug") but it is also exactly like the extremely addictive METH... (but without having either chemical inside it, but it has the same effects as both of them combined) now this is very disturbing. Its a chemical which I would call THE BIGGEST human weakness ever. Its abusers say that it is "heaven on earth." It's so strong in it's power that the first time users of it can become slaves in an instant. Nothing else matters to these "tainted ones" but this new drug of theirs. To them its more important than family, more important than liberty and life itself!!! Is this the great flying wedge which will destroy America?

DOES THIS RING A BELL!?!? Has anyone watched the movie: "A Scanner Darkly" ? (AKA "Substance D")

I hope I've put something in your hearts which you should fear and fight! This new drug is going to fuck up this world, BE AWARE, and tread lightly! Good luck ye freedom fighters!

 

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I feel about drug use the same way I feel about suicide. Its your life and you should be free to throw it away in whatever manner you so choose. But right now I am trying to figure out exactly which drug you are speaking of and how exactly it can be like both Meth and Ex. Those two drugs are damn nearly as different from each other as any two drugs can get. What was its name and are you even sure the twit wasn't just trying to sell you a bag of rocksalt or sugar water for a quick buck?

Meh. If you absolutely, positively must take a drug, I rather wish you would just take one like LSD instead. Aside from a couple percent chance that you are one of those rare people who will go batshit for the rest of your life after being exposed to it, people who take it are usually fine as long as they can avoid walking out in traffic. But no, they have to take drugs like meth that rot everything from your teeth to your organs. People always choose the hard way.

America has survived heroin, pot, meth, coke, and worst of all booze. We will take whatever this is, even if its real.
Past a certain point, further addictive capacity is just overkill for the week and feeble human mind.

 

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Clockwood:

Agreed, and that is why I find this new drug so disturbing. ( I don't know the name, but I have seen people on it) A destructive combination like that would be like turning on the sci-fi channel, jumping inside your TV, and suddenly you find yourself "Assimilated by the Borg" after the first usage of such a drug...

It's truly a drug made to absorb the lives of its users.

Like I always say: PEOPLE SELLING HARD DRUGS ARE ONLY BUYING SLAVES!

But to the users... its happyness in slavery...

Sure, go ahead, smoke that ganja, take that acid, do that mescaline, but stay the hell away from meth, ecstacy, and of course, anything that would resemble both of them at the same time!

This drug assimilates human weakness more than any other, beware.

 

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However, so I'm not completely biased, people who use hard drugs have to have these drugs to be normal, so... they have to either get a job and work really hard, or do something else, like become prostitutes or theives. Hard drugs push the extremes in peoples lives, causing strange dichotomies in all.

 

You're going to have to find the name of it. I'm skeptical of your claims of instant addiction, it's probably something that's been around a while.

 

Ecstacy, from those who I know whom have taken it and general reading, isn't anywhere near the danger that Meth is. Mostly it just causes you to dehydrate or overhydrate yourself and grind your teeth. There is something of a depressive phase when you stop taking it, but it is supposed to usually be mind and only last for hours or a couple days at most. That isn't to say that Ex isn't bad, but I it seems that booze is far more dangerous.

As for slavery, everything is slavery. I learned to live with the concept.

 

Do you believe everything you hear from drug pushers?
They talk shit all the time, the dramatic explanation you describe is so transparent to me.
They sensationalise and hype their shit drugs so people will talk about them to other idiots.
If you believed them you'd think there were 8 million different kinds of ecstasy from green mitsubishi's to pink panthers, each with their own different high.
But if you aren't retarded you know this isn't true. There's real ecstasy and then there's meth sold as ecstasy, that's all you ever get whether it's called a white dove or a soldier ant or whatever. If different ones feel different it's all in your head (excluding the difference between mdma and meth).

The same was true for trips, although they occassionally would be made with heroin or coke, but the stupid names given to them meant nothing.
This week red dragons might be lsd but next week they're speed with the same picture on them.

I remember when some were circulating the skatepark called "red men" and they were supposed to make you see little red men crawling all over everything and doing stuff.
There's no way this could be in a drug. Mind you some people apparently did see red men but only because it was ingrained into their psyche that they were going to and they were looking for them and creating them with their imagination.

Mdma, meth, coke, heroin or lsd, that's it. That's all any pill or tab or anything like that will ever be made out of(if you're lucky). I mean there will probably be a heap of other shit in the mix but nothing that improves the high.
There's no other base drug you will find in pills, certainly not one which is more intense than any of these.

I sincerely doubt some new secret wonder drug is hidden away in the pocket of a street urchin.
My guess is it's real mdma and they've probably been selling meth in the area as ecstasy before that. Mdma for the first time after taking meth and thinking it was mdma would be something of an orgasmically euphoric experience and could spur some stupid sensational myths to circulate.
Saying it's addictive is probably a ploy to make dumb kids think they're addicted and buy it with more regularity to show off to their friends and make out like they're addicted.
If you tell someone something is going to make them addicted(and they're gullible) they'll believe they are for a while, especially if they want to believe it which for some reason teenagers often do.

 

What about morphein pills?

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0GxUxKZdHk

 

i also disagree with the instant addiction claim. frankly i feel that instant addiction is impossible.

by addiction i of course mean physical addiction.

 

so this may have an effect of combined amphetamines, but isn't one nor is it a derivative of?

 

This has all the ingredients of an urban legend, and probably is.

 

wtf i can't see how it have such effects if it has neither of the chemical components...

amphetamines and mdma both have a similar structure to norepinephrine, thathatah, which leads to effects from binding to receptors/release of a combination (or not) of seratonin, dopamine, and/or NE.

unless you meant something else... like it doesn't contain either mdma or meth?

 

i agree with the hype shit and most of the things you said.

but i HAD to fix this part; there are various types of xtc man.
mdma is just one type of synthetic amphetamine... therefore you can have various combinations, or whatever.
for example,
MDA is sometimes dealed out as MDMA, but MDA has a lower lethal dose and lasts longer.

 

Classic comedy, cheers for this. The Day Today should be brought back.

 

It's not going to fuck up the world anymore than all the other drugs have. It's going to be good for the economy, thats about it, if you don't use it you'll be fine. And if you have nothing to lose, then why not use it?

If you are going to die soon, or if you are a bum, you have nothing to lose using it. Just like you have nothing to lose if you are 60 years old and retired and decide to ride out your days on this drug.

If you don't want to use the new crack, don't use the new crack.

 

Haha! FUKD and BOMBD.

 

Actually there are some very powerful drugs out there that can do this.

DMT dimethyltryptamine
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dmt/
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dmt/dmt_writings3.shtml
Salvia Divinorum
http://www.erowid.org/plants/salvia/salvia.shtml
http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=57297
Salvia is so strong that scientists don't even know how it works or what it is yet. It literally gives people out of body experiences, people see aliens, and get sucked into black holes.

These drugs however, are not addictive substances, and likely if you try it, and you don't go insane, you'll be too afraid to ever try it again, it's literally too strong to be enjoyable.

 

leopold99, but there is also mental addiction, and yes there are substances that can cause instant addiction.

 

Name one substance that can cause instant addiction (and provide a reference to a study that confirms this).

Mental addiction? What's that? When you want something real bad and feel distress if you can't get it?