Skin Color and the Origin of Ancient Egyptians

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  1. Chatha big brown was screwed up Registered Senior Member

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    Stop trying to fool yourself, intelligence is not inherital, its enviromental.
     
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  3. Shutupandlisten Registered Member

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    If anyone is equipped to straighten this out for you once and for all, it's an Egyptologist. I registered to this forum just for this, because I hate disinformation and seeing as Count Soduku does not know much about Egyptology and may just be a harmless joe in need of tutelage, here you go.
    The 'Original' Egyptians were black, asian AND caucasian. They were a people who migrated to KEMET (Egypt), without racial boundaries. However, there were many, many black empires sorrounding egypt, KUSH and NUBIA to name a few. Just because the 'original' Egyptians were not purely black, that does not mean they weren't Egyptian. However to delve into the mythology of the people you will learn that after a great cataclym, the ancient Egyptians were essentially refugees of a lost, dead culture who came to settle in what is now known as lower egypt, before expanding the empire. Mostly, rulership was bestowed in a Matriarchal manner. Thus, this is the reason many Pharoah's married their mother's and sister's...solely for Kingship. But to look through the ancient reliefs one can see for his or her self that the EGYPTIANS were depicted as RED SKINNED, BROWN SKINNED, YELLOW SKINNED and even, GREEN SKINNED. Yes, GREEN! Basically, there was no racial divide in antiquity. As for the matter of whether or not blacks hold any prestige in the ancient world, look to the MAYANS whose number 1 God was BLACK, and clearly africanized...THE GOD OF THE COCOA PLANT~!~A highly revered crop.
    There were great black gladiators, as well as FEMALE gladiators...and the sole reason CLEOPATRA had reign over egypt has to do with her heritage, not her race...the legacy of PTOLEMY...
     
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  5. Ganymede Valued Senior Member

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    Prince James are you smarter then every African yes or no?
     
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  7. Ganymede Valued Senior Member

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    One more question. How many P.H.D's do Africans hold, and how many do you hold?
     
  8. Prince_James Plutarch (Mickey's Dog) Registered Senior Member

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    Ganymede:

    I can say with reasonable certainty that I am smarter than 99 percent of Africans in this world. However, there are a few African geniuses that probably are smarter than me.

    Also, I have no idea how many Ph.D.s Africans hold. But you will note that I actually -am- pursuing a Ph.D. in philosophy.

    Chatha:

    ACtually, there is significant scientific evidence to suggest that IQ is very strongly a genetic trait.

    I have never claimed they were Indo-Europeans. The Egyptians considered themselves a red race, distinct from whites and blacks.
     
  9. Ganymede Valued Senior Member

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    You heard it here folks! Prince James is Smarter then 99% of Africans in this World! Thank you, I will never respond to another thread of yours again. Your igonorance is boundless. /slit wrists you fail at life!

    http://www.math.buffalo.edu/mad/physics/physics-peeps.html
     
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  10. DarkEyedBeauty Pirate. Registered Senior Member

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    Egypt was an empire that was so large because it was constantly taking in people from surrounding areas. Egypt was NOT homogenous. Besides...there were some Roman Pharoahs, some African Pharoahs and some Middle Eastern Pharoahs.
     
  11. Chatha big brown was screwed up Registered Senior Member

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    There is also a significant scientific proof to suggest I.Q is more enviromental than genetic. Shall we start the thread?


    How can they be a red race when they were brown skin Afrcans, were Nubians red too? How many red skin indians do you see in present day Africa today? Besides, It wasn't even called "Egypt" till the British. The English name "Egypt" came via the Latin word Aegyptus derived from the ancient Greek word Αίγυπτος (Aigyptos). Before then it was called Kemet, meaning land of black. How you can say they were red is questionable. Are you familiar with Human geography at all?
     
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  12. Ragnarok Hang em High.... Registered Senior Member

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    i think i must be pink then. oh man, im pink!! nooooo!!
     
  13. Chatha big brown was screwed up Registered Senior Member

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  14. valich Registered Senior Member

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    Chatha is really putting forth an outstanding argument that no one has yet been able to counter. Sure, this subject was posted a couple months ago, but I strongly admire Chatha's ability to revive it with a renewed undeniable freshness.

    This is off the subject, but have you ever noticed the facial similarities between American Indians and Chinese? The Beringia Land Bridge closed ~23,000 years ago and then reopened ~13,000 years ago. Both American Indians and Chinese are yellow-skinned. I wonder if they came over before or after 23,000 years ago? This is relevant to any analogies made to Mexicans.

    "Asiatic migration: Americas are thought to have been first inhabited by Asian nomads who crossed the Bering Land Bridge. Over the course of millennia, people spread to all parts of the continent. Exactly when the first group of people migrated into the Americas is subject to much debate. One view is that the earliest people were of the Clovis culture, with sites dating from some 13,500 years ago. However, older sites dating back to 20,000 years ago have been discovered, and genetic studies estimate the colonization of the Americas dates from between 40,000 to 13,000 years ago. Also, multiple waves of immigration have been suggested. In any case, artifacts have been found in both North and South America which have been dated to about 10,000 BC, and humans are thought to have reached Cape Horn at the southern tip of South America by this time. All theories agree that the Inuit and related peoples arrived separately and at a much later date, probably around the 6th century, moving across the ice from Siberia into Canada." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pre-Columbian
     
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  15. Chatha big brown was screwed up Registered Senior Member

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    I read about the migration from Siberia somwhere too, there are many evidence for the theory
     
  16. valich Registered Senior Member

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    There were three waves according to the "Out of Africa" theory, then many more so that crossed over to the Americas. One possible early route, to support the 40,000 year old evidence in South America, is "island hopping" across the Pacific.

    The following map supports the undeniable hypothesis that Egyptians were black:

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    "Homo sapiens....these more recent migrants did not interbreed with the scattered descendants of earlier exodi. This model is called the "replacement scenario". In support of it, advocates have drawn from both fossil and DNA evidence, in particular from mitochondrial and Y-chromosome DNA sequences. Supporting evidence has now been found; it synthesizes new genetic, archaeological, climatic, and linguistic discoveries. Genetic diversity amongst modern human populations is greatest in the African continent. There are 15 surviving mtDNA lineages in Africa which date back more than 80,000 years, compared with only one for the rest of the world, that descending from L3. This clearly suggests an early radiation of anatomically modern humans within Africa, before they were found in any other continent. Based upon point source mutations on mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) and the Human Y chromosome, the oldest changes in our genome took place in Africa 150,000 - 190,000 years ago. Archaeologically this would suggest that anatomically modern humans (AMH) evolved from the archaic human lineage similar to that previously called Homo rhodesiensis. The find of 3 skulls near the Herto village in Ethiopia was previously thought to date the earliest AMH persons yet found, the species classified as Homo sapiens idaltu dated to 154,000 and 160,000 yrs ago. However more recent work on tools and human remains found at Kibish, at Omo River (Ethiopia), previously thought by Richard Leakey to date to about 130,000 years ago, on the basis of careful re-examination of potassium-argon dating at Omo 1, is now thought to date to 195,000 years ago, making it a good candidate to be a site type for AMH ancestors. By 125,000 years ago, AMH were already demonstrating the dietary flexibility for which they are famous, at Yuga Bay, on the Zula Gulf of Eritrea, shell middens are proof of the importance of shell fish, in what has been called “the world’s first oyster bar”. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-origin_hypothesis
     
  17. Ganymede Valued Senior Member

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    Prince James, like we said Ancient Egyptians were Black. Chatta & Valich: excellent work. Now we can finally put this topic to rest.
     
  18. valich Registered Senior Member

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    Face of Tutankhamun Reconstructed

    Scientists have carried out the first facial reconstructions of Egypt's most famous ancient king, Tutankhamun. Three teams of forensic artists - French, Egyptian and American - built separate but similar models of the king's face using CAT scans and X-rays of his skull.http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4535027.stm
     
  19. Ganymede Valued Senior Member

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    And here's the face of a Modern Ethiopian Girl. Blacks come in all shades, from Light Brown to dark. Not just Dark. I had to post this before Prince James said the Pharoh was actually White.

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  20. valich Registered Senior Member

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    Both pictures look Black to me???


    "Infrared photography reveals tattoos on mummies. Three of the mummies were removed from the Pazyryk mounds in the south Siberian Altai Mountains, which date back to the 8th to 5th centuries BCE, while another came from the east Siberian region of Khakassia.

    The Pazyryk mummies are very dark in colour so the markings weren't spotted earlier, while the Khakassia mummy is a lighter colour. The researchers found oblique bluish figures on the shoulders of the Khakassia mummy, symbols resembling commas and rosettes on the chest, arms and neck, and a bow and arrow on the inside of the elbow. The Pazyryk mummies showed tattooed tigers, leopards, horses, roe deer, birds, and mythological beasts including winged predators and hoofed animals with birdlike heads. All the images were in the Scythian-Siberian style, also known as Pazyryk art, except for one of the Pazyryk mummies which had tattoos in a different style, possibly Chinese reflecting the periodic contact the Pazyryk culture had with ancient China." http://www.stonepages.com/news/archives/001222.html
     
  21. EmptyForceOfChi Banned Banned

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    they were african broad nosed darker skin in between middle eastern looking and african maybe?
     
  22. valich Registered Senior Member

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    Welcome back Chi. This forum is highly intellectual and accurately substantiated. Read all of the posts by Chatha first.
     
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  23. Nickelodeon Banned Banned

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    Dear God, I don't know why you bother posting.
     

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