A world without Israel

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  1. El_Diablo666 The New World Order Has Begun. Registered Senior Member

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    Hey, I'm back!

    Anyway, I was thinking, a world without Israel would be a nice place.
    First of all, it would eliminate an Arab enemy (and major terrorist, since we all know Israel is one), eliminating suicide bombing. It would give the land to the rightful, true owners, which are the Arabs. Not once ever, EVER, in history did it ever belong to Jews, except for the theft of 1948.
    Western relations with the mid east would, at least, be improved. In fact, it is estimated that most of the reason the mid east doesn't like the west is because of the creation of the dumb country of Israel.
    Thousands upon thousands of more arabs would be alive today, since the Israeli savagery would not exist. They are practically animals, killing children, women, and men alike. I know that the Arabs are doing so as well, but at least they are trying to take back their land.

    In my opinion, many of the worlds problems would not exist.
    What do yall think?
     
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  3. Mr. G reality.sys Valued Senior Member

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    You're an idiot.
     
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  5. Brian Foley REFUSE - RESIST Valued Senior Member

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    Me too how for the mean while .
    Anyway, I was thinking, a world without Israel would be a nice place.
    Yeah especially with an Israeli like this mouthing off :
    Yeah and with nuts like Olmert and Sharon in power I really believe Israel should be listed an outlaw nation and handed back to the Palestinians at the most convenient time , like now .
    What do I think ? For starters the American taxpayer would benefit :
    And guess what Israel wants more ?
    At least Iran pays its own way .
     
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  7. Mr. G reality.sys Valued Senior Member

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    You're an idiot, too.

    The woodwork creaks and out come the creeps.
     
  8. Redefine91 I piss excellence Registered Senior Member

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    Exactly how are the arabs the rightful owners?
     
  9. El_Diablo666 The New World Order Has Begun. Registered Senior Member

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    Well since its their land, they are the rightful owners. Just like the Chinese are the rightful owners of China, and not anyone else

    Mr.G, you're an idiot that blindly believes anything Israel says.
    It has caused a lot of trouble, and actually prevents stability in the region and perhaps any chance of an alliance.
     
  10. Redefine91 I piss excellence Registered Senior Member

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    I do believe there is a region of tibet that isn't chinas.


    By the way, the chinese were the FIRST people in china. Judaism was in the ME before Islam even existed. So by your logic the jews are the rightful owners.
     
  11. Mr. G reality.sys Valued Senior Member

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    You're obviously a creature of self-actuating assumptions.
     
  12. El_Diablo666 The New World Order Has Begun. Registered Senior Member

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    well, blindly believing anything Israel says is, well, a creature of assumptions. People assume that when Israel says its their land, they are right, without any thought for the other side. And that is true, when have americans thought of what Arabs, the true owners and victims of a mass crime, think? They don't, whereas I have of what Israel thinks, and I understand they want to have the holy land too.
    If there is no other way, I am 100% behind a two-state solution where Palestine gets 90%+ and Israel some 10%, and Jerusalem is restored to the Arabs.
     
  13. Redefine91 I piss excellence Registered Senior Member

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    Sounds an awful lot like what your doing

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    Or again, seeing as how Jerusalem was the jews first.......They should get it.


    #1 Holiest city to jews
    #3 To arabs.

    Built by jews.

    Ruled over by jews for centuries.



    Seems as if all the odds point in Judaism's favor.
     
  14. El_Diablo666 The New World Order Has Begun. Registered Senior Member

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    Actually, you're wrong. Israelites built it, but it belongs to Arabs. Even in the koran, it says 'god gave the land to Islam', so its the arabs', sorry.

    It is the arabs land, seriously, are we even arguing over this? I thought it was obvious. Even the UK say so, and they support Israel

    Israel has been here for around 59 years
    Arabs have been there for thousands

    not really that hard to see the point.
     
  15. Redefine91 I piss excellence Registered Senior Member

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    You make me laugh

    That's like saying a book written by the Klu Klux Klan says whites are superior to blacks


    The holy book of Islam says the land is the Islams. No shit sherlock


    Again by your logic...The Israelites built it. therefore they had to have been their first. They should get it




    Israel the state has been there for around 59 years.

    But the jewish people have been there thousands. And longer than the arabs.


    You're right it isn't too hard to see the point
     
  16. El_Diablo666 The New World Order Has Begun. Registered Senior Member

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    And the jewish Torah says its for them, and there is no proof for that, as there is never proof in religion, not in islam, not in christianity, not in judaism.

    Israelites back then are different. I said 'israelites' not 'jews'. Israelites do not exist anymore, and because of that, it goes to the next occupier, which are the arabs who have been there thousands of more years than any jew even set land there. Even if those arabs weren't moslim, they still lived there as their homes, so its theirs.

    It's a very easy point to get.
     
  17. Redefine91 I piss excellence Registered Senior Member

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    Jews decended from Israelites.

    The rightful decendants of the original land owners should get it.

    Let's substitute the issue here with a whole new cast. get rid of the names of religions and races that trigger hate almost automatically in some



    Your grandparents buy a crop of land in 1900. they build up the house and garden. its a very nice house. in 1925 Your neighbors, the smiths, move in.

    Your grandparents both die. Grandpa in 1945 and Grandma in 1950. you were 23 at the time of grandmas death. You, logically, consider the house now yours.

    But the smiths claim that, while you may be a descendant of your grandparents, the original settlers and architects, they should get the house. They don't even like it as much as their own house or the williams house further down the road.

    Doesn't make a whole lot of sense does it?


    You mentioned the UK. Lets throw that in.


    the davidsons down the road think that the house should go to the smiths. But again, they have nothing to do with it, so lets leave them out of the conversation.
     
  18. El_Diablo666 The New World Order Has Begun. Registered Senior Member

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    lol, Israelites were slaves to the Arabs, so they never officially had the land. It was the arabs forever and is rightfully for the arabs. I mean seriously, why else is the middle east inhabited by arabs and not jews? And why would this coincidential tiny piece of land not be? It's cuz its all lies.

    Well international affiars are important. All countries should have some interests of theirs met.
    America always focuses on interests of Israel and never the Arabs, and thats what causes them to retaliate.
     
  19. Redefine91 I piss excellence Registered Senior Member

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    The middle east isn't inhabited by Jews because

    1.) The have no interest in the other ME countries
    2.) everytime they attempt to settle, the muslims consider it defecating on their religion and decide it's Jihad time. By bomb or by sword. there is literally a car/suicide bombing report from Israel every day.

    Pretty sure that establishing a country counts as "officially" having it.
     
  20. Brian Foley REFUSE - RESIST Valued Senior Member

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    Other than seizing Palestine , attempting to swallow all of Jordan , attacking Egypt to secure the Sinai for itself having a vested interest in Syrian territory and a fascination of invading Lebanon every 7 years . Pressuring America to attack Iraq with false intel on WMD and provoking Iran so America can invade and knock oput another of Israels enemies .Other than that Israel has really no interest in other Mid East nations .
    No the Jews SQUAT on Palestinian land .
    Thats because Zionism = For Jews only .
    By 500kg bombs dropped from IDF jets into crowded Palestinan ghettoes literally on a daily basis .
    Thats why we would like Palestine to be resurrected over Israel , for the sake of World peace .
     
  21. Michael 歌舞伎 Valued Senior Member

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    I think we should also give Canada, Egypt, Iraq, The USA, Japan, Australia and New Zealand for starters - back to their rightful owners!

    What do you think? Sound stupid?

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  22. Clockwood You Forgot Poland Registered Senior Member

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    Kick all the Saxon or Norman derived peoples out of England.
     
  23. Redefine91 I piss excellence Registered Senior Member

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    Yeah Brian! Fuck those Jews and their savage desire to off their enemies!!!


    who are they to try and get rid of those who want them wiped off the face of the earth?

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    Greedy bastards
     
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