Stun guns and cops.

Discussion in 'Ethics, Morality, & Justice' started by S.A.M., Nov 17, 2006.

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Should cops use stun guns?

  1. Yes

    80.8%
  2. No

    23.1%
  3. I don't know

    3.8%
  4. Some other option

    11.5%
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  1. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Bible-carrying teen dies after stun gun shot
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15496090/

     
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  3. Prince_James Plutarch (Mickey's Dog) Registered Senior Member

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    Here's an idea: Don't hassle the cops.
     
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  5. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    What if its a person who is unwell? Can the police tell the difference?
     
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  7. Oniw17 ascetic, sage, diogenes, bum? Valued Senior Member

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    What if they're hassling you? Just go along?
     
  8. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    yes they can. if they are ranting and raving and not obeying the cops directions then they are ill, in fact they are crazy.

    join the ACLU sam seems like it's right up your alley.
     
  9. MetaKron Registered Senior Member

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    Some people act as if the police have really good judgement when it is more than obvious that they act with really bad judgement.
     
  10. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Hmm so according to you, anyone who is ranting and raving and not obeying cops directions is ill and should be cured with a couple of shots from a stun gun?

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    Are they anti-fascism?
     
  11. francois Schwat? Registered Senior Member

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    Doesn't say anything about the number of lives stun guns save... or anything regarding their efficacy in difficult situations. Those people with weak constitutions who can't handle a little voltage are just collateral damage. It just happens to be that it's easy to count the number of people who have died and report it in the news. That's all. It's just an arbitrary fact.
     
  12. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    yes, they are ill, stupid, nuts, you name it.
    couple shots from a stun gun? nah, a few slugs from a .45 is better.
    regardless of what you may think sam most americans want to live a peaceful tranquil life. and yes the cops in question had every reason to shoot the psyco with a stun gun.

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    if i did my math right the figures you quoted indicates that 2 tenths of 1 percent were fatalities. a very small number.

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    oh by the way a taser (stun gun) puts out a grand total of 26 watts.
     
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  13. Oniw17 ascetic, sage, diogenes, bum? Valued Senior Member

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    But um..of course they should be allowedto have stun guns, everyone should. I can believe somebody actually died from one. That's such a ridiculously pussy way to die.
     
  14. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    the air force did some tests on pigs using stun guns. the pigs were shot 18 times each. none died. a human will be shot, what, 3 times max?

    you people won't be satisfied until our police is totally unarmed.
    typical terrorist attitude.
     
  15. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Q:How many cops does it take to subdue one Bible thumping teenager?

    A: None, because they'd rather taze him.

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    http://www.hrw.org/about/initiatives/police.htm
    http://www.hrw.org/reports98/police/
    http://www.hrw.org/doc/?t=usa_police
     
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  16. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    etc

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  17. John99 Banned Banned

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    I read somewhere that the new taser guns were going to be tested in India.

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  18. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    I agree. This is just one of many incidence where people seem to think that all cops have to do is fuck around with one crazy prick just to get him off of the streets.

    I can just see it now ....anytime a criminal wants to resist arrest, he just act crazy, and the cops step back and let him go ...for fear of raising the ire of mamby-pamby, doo-gooder citizens!

    Yeah, and that's exactly the tactics that terrorist supporters use to help the terrorists.

    Baron Max
     
  19. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    Yeah, that's all cops have to do ...subdue crazy people! And while they're all gathered around subduing that one crazy person, crime continues all over the city ...without any cops in the area! Good tactics, huh?

    And if a person wants to resist arrest, the cops should just stand back and let the guy go?! Resisting arrest is also a crime, ladies and gentlemen.

    Sam, you'd make a really good, effective leader of police! ...LOL!

    Baron Max
     
  20. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    It now makes perfect sense to me why so many Americans are against gun control. Not only can they not depend on the cops to protect them, but apparently they need protection from the cops!
     
  21. Prince_James Plutarch (Mickey's Dog) Registered Senior Member

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    SamCDKey:

    Mentally ill people cannot be handled without a degree of violence. Specifically as insanity often leads to a certain increase in strength and a resilience towards pain.

    Oniw17:

    FIghting with the cops is a sure fire way to land your ass in prison for virtually no benefit.
     
  22. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    1. Do you know any mentally ill people?

    2. In American hospitals, are mentally ill people tasered by doctors to keep them under control?
     
  23. thedevilsreject Registered Senior Abuser Registered Senior Member

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    so you would rather put police officers at increased danger would you sam
     

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