Is it ever okay for men to cry in public?

Discussion in 'Human Science' started by TimeTraveler, Aug 13, 2006.

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  1. devils_reject Registered Senior Member

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    The better question is how do you stay in control? There is a lot of motivation in tears, in fact more than normal. Everybody has a breaking point, even hard men, it just takes the right approach. Crying is basically expressing your inner-most emotion. Get that? Inner-most emoton. The same place where most of our last deepest aura resides. Anything can happen when this bottomless heathen of hell's fury is breached by external forces some people cry and some don't, some people are very emotional while some aren't. Nonetheless it is the very last nerve. Crying can mean two thing; saddness or happiness, its not necessarily a show of weakness but lack of control.
     
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  3. hug-a-tree Live the life Registered Senior Member

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    if you want to know the truth most women (not all) don't mind when their guy shows his feelings. However if he cried in public it might embarrass them because, not to sound selfish or anything but I would feel like people would think I made him cry. He can go cry whenever he wants...just in public it's a little different.

    Then again if someone just died or something he has every right to cry. But if he's crying because he left his jacket at home....thats different. Then I would start feeling like I was the guy or something.

    I don't know really. Do guys mind girls crying in public?
     
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  5. perplexity Banned Banned

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    And what a remarkably fine line it may be, between the sadness and the happiness.

    Consider an example, Tiger Woods when he won the British Open Golf Championship. His dead father came to mind and he burst into tears.

    http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory?id=2229388

    Joy? Grief? Weakness? Control?

    Tears of life. Tears of generosity. Humanity. Admired, not despised.

    --- Ron.
     
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  7. HonorAndStrength I know nothing Registered Senior Member

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    That's a perfectly acceptable situation to cry in.

    Crying over a girlfriend that you went out with for 3 weeks and dumped you, no.
     
  8. HonorAndStrength I know nothing Registered Senior Member

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    Wow lol

    So you fail to accept that some men are naturally tough? Are you a hippie? ;p
     
  9. TimeTraveler Immortalist Registered Senior Member

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    I don't know about that. It's not that everyone has a breaking point. Everyone cries, but not everyone has a nervous breakdown. I've never had one, I don't think I'd have one, because my mind does not work in the sorta way to allow me to have one of those experiences, but yes all people can become emotionally unstable. Emotional instability is not the same as "breaking down".

    My inner most emotion, is not sadness or weakness. So maybe that is another reason why I don't always respond in that way. Crying to me is just a reaction to stress, a chemical reaction, and it's not an emotion. An emotion does not mean you have to react according ot a scripted pattern.

    The point is, you control your reaction to stress, to sadness, to happiness. Crying in the way in which a tear drips down your eye is not the same as crying where you are sobbing and can't stop screaming. Not all men are capable of that type of crying.
     
  10. HonorAndStrength I know nothing Registered Senior Member

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    A bit arrogant as to deem any man who doesn't cry much as having a problem isn't it?
     
  11. TimeTraveler Immortalist Registered Senior Member

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    I don't think anyone should cry in public. I do not like public displays of that sort. I think people should stay emotionally neutral in public life. Emotions in my opinion are to be kept private, and to be shared with the chosen few.
     
  12. perplexity Banned Banned

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    Cut them: they bleed.

    No need to cry over a straw man.

    --- Ron.
     
  13. TimeTraveler Immortalist Registered Senior Member

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    That is completely different. I never said I was against people crying when they win the championship. If you won a million dollars and you cried, fine, you are a million dollars richer, you can cry. If you are a loser, and in a position of weakness, hurting, etc, then you should not cry.

    Michael Jordan cried when he won the championship, Tiger Woods cried, these are supermen athletes. Yes it is odd for them to cry in public, but I'll give them a pass because they were winners, winners can cry, losers can't.
     
  14. TimeTraveler Immortalist Registered Senior Member

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    Even if men were conditioned and were not naturally tough, it does not change the fact that if the world werent set up like it is, we wouldnt have to be conditioned to survive in it.

    An animal will adapt to it's environment. If an animal is surrounded by predators, bullies, con-artists, jerks, assholes and manipulators, that animal better learn to defend itself. Just because some people can go around and be defended by other animals, does not mean all animals have a stronger animal to go to, sometimes you only have yourself to lean on, and you can cry for years and still nothing will change. You'll go to work and your boss will bully you more and more each day after he or she learns you'll just sit and cry and not do anything about it. You'll come home to your partner who will treat you like crap because he or she knows you will just sit and sob. You'll go outside to the store and people will charge you more money for the same goods because you arent going to take them to court, you'll just cry. The neighborhood or town thug/gangster will make you pay the tax and offer to defend you because he or she knows you'll rather cry than defend yourself.

    Sometimes it's just not the time to cry. Sometimes no one will protect you but you, and this is when crying does not help anymore. Crying only makes sense as a way to relieve stress, if you are stressed out you'll cry, natural response, but it's not an expression of an emotion, it's a response to pain of the physical sort, or to psychological stress. All of us, even hard guys cry when tortured. Only some of us cry when we break a nail, and so so in the loudest most public way.
     
  15. nubianconcubine ...observing... Registered Senior Member

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    i have it.
    my husband, in the 10+ years that i've known him, has cried only once that i know of. it was on the phone with me. at the time, it made me uncomfortable but only because it was my fault and i didn't know how to make it better.
    now...
    if my husband were to cry in front of me, i'd accept that it must be important to him because he chose to do it. because he does not cry often, i know that when he does, it is for a damn good reason.
    it isn't that men can't cry at all. it's that they can't do it all the time the way most women are wont to do (did i use the word right?).
     
  16. HonorAndStrength I know nothing Registered Senior Member

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    great points nubian.

    it seems we have some pansies and hippies around this forum. I never said it was wrong to cry in public, I just said it better be a damn good reason.
     
  17. perplexity Banned Banned

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    He is a loser. He lost his father.

    You think his father was worth less than million dollars to him?

    --- Ron.
     
  18. hug-a-tree Live the life Registered Senior Member

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    Sometimes you can't help it though.
     
  19. TimeTraveler Immortalist Registered Senior Member

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    Everyone loses their father. It's not like he's special besides the fact that he plays golf. All of us lose people. It's something that happens, and we cry at the funeral, or in private.
     
  20. TimeTraveler Immortalist Registered Senior Member

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    Learn self control. Be a man.
     
  21. Oniw17 ascetic, sage, diogenes, bum? Valued Senior Member

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    Hmmm....Macolm X(Malcolm X Speaks-1965):
    "Usually when people are sad the don't do anything. They just cry over their condition. But when they get angry, they bring about change."
     
  22. perplexity Banned Banned

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    Of course.

    Anger breeds anger.

    Be angry and you end up with more anger, a big change if you are angry enough, if that is what you like.

    Do you like other people to be angry with you?

    There are far too many for my liking who think it OK to be angry with others, while they don't want to get the same in return.

    --- Ron.
     
  23. TimeTraveler Immortalist Registered Senior Member

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    Ron you are correct, anger does breed anger, hate does breed hate, but it also works genetically. Mating habits, seek balance, if you are angry, the last thing to do is to mate with someone angry.
     
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