http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4260182.stm

Stars slate Bush at relief event



Robin Williams was one of many celebrities at the New York event

Robin Williams and other celebrities have criticised the US government for its response to Hurricane Katrina at a New York benefit for its victims.

Pretending to be a hurricane, Williams said he was heading for Kennebunkport - home of President Bush's family estate - to "see if they respond any quicker".

"The people who got into office forgot about the people," added Bill Cosby.

Elsewhere in the US, performers at the Farm Aid benefit on Sunday pledged to assist Katrina's rural victims.

Saturday's Higher Ground concert, held at New York's Lincoln Center, saw Meryl Streep, Laurence Fishburne, Robert De Niro and others implore viewers to give money to relief charities.


When the hurricane struck, it did not turn the region into a Third World country - it revealed one



Actor Danny Glover


But emotionally-charged performances from Bette Midler, Paul Simon and Diana Krall went hand-in-hand with angry speeches that assigned blame for the tragedy.

"When the hurricane struck, it did not turn the region into a Third World country - it revealed one," said actor Danny Glover.

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http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/11/20/politics/main656797.shtml
Bush Signs Debt-Limit Hike
WASHINGTON, Nov. 19, 2004
*(Photo: AP / CBS)
"Everybody took hits. There will be members who aren't totally satisfied, but we we're committed to stay within the budget number."
House Appropriations Committee Chairman Bill Young, R-Fla.
(CBS/AP)*President Bush signed legislation on Friday raising the government's debt limit by $800 billion and clearing the way for Congress to send him an overdue $388 billion spending bill to finance most federal agencies.

The new federal borrowing cap is $8.18 trillion; that's 70 percent the size of the entire U.S. economy, and more than $2.4 trillion higher than the debt Mr. Bush inherited upon taking office in 2001.

The House approved the debt-limit measure Thursday by a near party line 208-204 vote. Its passage was not in doubt because the alternative was a jarring federal default, but it was nonetheless a battlefield for partisan fingerpointing.

Meanwhile, White House and bipartisan congressional bargainers moved to the verge of agreement on the year-end spending package
expected to total $388 billion.

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Actor Danny Glover


"When the hurricane struck, it did not turn the region into a Third World country - it revealed one," said actor Danny Glover.


Well dubba is throwing money in the air like confetti, as he trys his damnest, to make america into a 3rd world country, the american taxpayer is going to have, to foot the bill at some point in a big way, after he finishes his 2nd term in office he should run for president, in africa or argentina, he has all the credentials, he is stupid, corrupt, (iraqi contracts), he listens to no one, he thinks he is right all the time, a perfect candidate for africa.

How can a man be voted in office, on the strenth of, if you vote for john kerry, our country wont be safe, and sept 11 might happen again.

Sept 11 happened on dubbas watch, not kerrys.
John kerry army hero, silver star, came back from vietnam, he dared to criticise the war in vietnam, like any sane man would do, and suddenly kerry is
weak, no longer a hero.
Meanwhile AWOL Bush is portrayed, as the new action man, better than rambo, or robocop.

Yeah, Hollywood actors are sure the ones that should know about how to run a government, huh? Any time I need to know what's wrong with the world, I'll just ask a Hollywood actor. ...LOL!

Baron Max

Yeah, Hollywood actors are sure the ones that should know about how to run a government, huh? Any time I need to know what's wrong with the world, I'll just ask a Hollywood actor. ...LOL!

Baron Max
Lucky you don't live in California then huh?... :p

And wasn't Reagan a Republican and an actor?.. hmmm... ;)

Yeah, Hollywood actors are sure the ones that should know about how to run a government, huh? Any time I need to know what's wrong with the world, I'll just ask a Hollywood actor. ...LOL!

Baron Max

"Hollywood actors, run a government"

Ronald reagan=president
Clint eastwood =mayor carmel
Arnold schwarzenegger= govenor california

warren beaty possible candidate, for next california govenor
I am sure there is lot more references, i dont follow american local politics.


Hell baron americans love hollywood stars running the country, and if clint eastwood, had run for president last time, it would have been a landslide victory for him, hell if they can vote in a b movie actor, like reagan, if someone like clint, or bruce willis ran, it would be a walkover.

Vincent28UK: "Ronald reagan=president
Clint eastwood =mayor carmel
Arnold schwarzenegger= govenor california"

Republicans all. The other "stars" cited in the previous posts are willing to donate their precious time but not there freaking money! Typical liberals.

Is america already, a 3rd world nation, judging by there rescue efforts, in new orleans, it could be said they are, hell rescue planes, could have been sent quicker from the uk or europe, faster than the US response was.

America is becoming, a gun crazy country, you are even shooting at rescue helicopters in new orleans.

Is america already, a 3rd world nation, judging by there rescue efforts, in new orleans, it could be said they are, hell rescue planes, could have been sent quicker from the uk or europe, faster than the US response was.

America is becoming, a gun crazy country, you are even shooting at rescue helicopters in new orleans.


Stop hating us. How many times do I have to tell u that we own you and your nation. Hell we own half the world. WE are the SOLE super power and we Run the way world the way we like. Who the hell are you ? Next stop should be England, oh wait thats already ours, since Your goverment is Run by White House..HAHHAHAHAH. Who is next? Wtf Frenchies??? Who the hell wants france anyways. GW is the smartest US president ever lived. ADMIT IT.

Stop hating us. How many times do I have to tell u that we own you and your nation. Hell we own half the world. WE are the SOLE super power and we Run the way world the way we like. Who the hell are you ? Next stop should be England, oh wait thats already ours, since Your goverment is Run by White House..HAHHAHAHAH. Who is next? Wtf Frenchies??? Who the hell wants france anyways. GW is the smartest US president ever lived. ADMIT IT.
America owns jack shit, now if your referring to the old british empire, that covered 3 quarters of the world fact, not bullshit like your statement.

"GW is the smartest US president ever lived. ADMIT IT"

There is about 5billion out there who think he is the dumbest one, in history, fact.

"Your goverment is Run by White House"

The whitehouse could not run a bath,
and they did a hell of a job in new orleans, even *ucking iran, and cuba, offered relief to your country, how pathetic, and in most cases you took it, i dont think there will be ever a day in the UK, when we will need foreign aid, to cope with a natural disaster, which is why your country is a 3rd world nation.

99% of the time the internal democratic decisions of a nation are it's own business and no one elses's. But Skywalker is right, the USA is the only Superpower, and so who occupys the white house is of concern to the whole world.

The UK voters allowed Tony Blair to return as premier for a second term, but they were voting for a political party to govern the country and the leader of the party (even when he is prime minister) can toppled by internal political revolt and a new leader elected. Margaret Thatcher was ousted as Leader of the Conservative Party and thus toppled as premier by her own party's MP's.

With the Presidency of the USA you vote for an individual rather than a political party( yes I know one is always a republican and one a democrat but it is the indivdual people vote for). "The whole world" shuddered in disbelief when the people of the USA voted that man back into office for a second term.

The world is a much more dangerous place with GW in the White House.

"The whole world" shuddered in disbelief when the people of the USA voted that man back into office for a second term.

The world is a much more dangerous place with GW in the White House.
City folk in america were shocked, at the result too, i remember media interviewing people in new york, and they even said, how can people be so dumb to vote this man in again.

Its all down to the country bumpkin states, and the uneducated religous nuts.

"The people who got into office forgot about the people," added Bill Cosby.


Is a government really there for the people though? If you would closely examine any western democracy it would be obvious to the observer that political systems are in place to maintain themselves. The people there are just a means to remain the status quo of a stable system. And stable doesn't refer here to stability for the people but for the system. Sometimes it coincides, sometimes it doesn't.

"The people who got into office forgot about the people," added Bill Cosby.

I think cosby is right, clinton did not see colours of skin, the blacks of america loved him, bush is for the oil business fullstop, that is all his presidency is about oil, he appeals to the religous nuts of america, and the gun nuts, and the oil nuts, that is no way to run a presidency.

Vincent, the American people voted President Bush into office not once, but twice. Doesn't that tell you anything at all about how much we care about YOUR opinions?

Baron Max

Vincent, the American people voted President Bush into office not once, but twice. Doesn't that tell you anything at all about how much we care about YOUR opinions?

Baron Max

Baron hand on heart, tell me honestly here, do you think bush is a intelligent man, or do you think he is the dumbest american president in history, after nixon.

Remember he got in the second time, running adds like if kerry is elected, could sept 11 happen again, and crap on how america is safer under the republicans, yet all these terroist attacks happened under bush, not clinton.

Fear is what got bush re-elected, not commonsense.

President Bush and all of the congressmen were voted into office by the people of the United States of America .....who am I or you to NOW tell them what to do or how to do it? Or doesn't voting count any more????

Baron Max

President Bush and all of the congressmen were voted into office by the people of the United States of America .....who am I or you to NOW tell them what to do or how to do it? Or doesn't voting count any more????

Baron Max


You are absolutely right Baron, but remember that Adolph Hitler became leader of Germany after a democratic election!!!

What the President of the USA does affects everyone on the planet, and George Bush is scaring everyone, he should be scaring the american people even more, his policies will bankrupt your nation!!!
$billions wasted in Afghanistan and Iraq and he hasn't finished yet.

President Bush and all of the congressmen were voted into office by the people of the United States of America .....who am I or you to NOW tell them what to do or how to do it? Or doesn't voting count any more????

Baron Max
Of course voting counts, but running adds based on fears on national security, should not be allowed, john kerry was a silver star hero, the republican adds of the democrats being lilly livered left wingers, frightened of war, were ridiculous, clinton did a hell of a job in yugoslavia.

Political parties should not be taunting there nation, that sept 11 will happen again, if you change your commander and chief.

BUSH IS PULLING SEPT 11 OUT, LIKE A MAGICIAN PULLS A RABBIT, OUT OF HIS HAT, OR VAN HELSING PULLS OUT A CROSS TO KEEP DRACULA AWAY.

SEPT 11 WAS A TRAGEDY, IT IS NOT A RABBIT OR A CROSS!!!

President Bush and all of the congressmen were voted into office by the people of the United States of America .....who am I or you to NOW tell them what to do or how to do it? Or doesn't voting count any more????

Baron Max

you prize simpleton. anyone with an OUNCE of savvy know the votin of that vicious moronic cadaver was rigged!
ypour politics reflects what you are.

President Bush and all of the congressmen were voted into office by the people of the United States of America .....who am I or you to NOW tell them what to do or how to do it? Or doesn't voting count any more????

And do i even need to mention the bullshit called the "Veterans for Truth"!

President Bush and all of the congressmen were voted into office by the people of the United States of America .....who am I or you to NOW tell them what to do or how to do it? Or doesn't voting count any more????

Baron Max


way to avoid the question,i dont think bush comes on sciforums so you can state your opinion (which you were asked for) without fear of him changing policy because of it.

Holy shit, I just notice that Baron Max as surpassed the number of posts I have.(...LOL!)
Haha, there's a little mockery there. I'm just a kidder.

Anyways,
HEIL BUSH! HEIL BUSH! HEIL BUSH! HEIL BUSH! HEIL BUSH! HEIL BUSH!
TONY BLAIR'S A PAWN CAUSE WE PWN THE UK!!!

"Hollywood actors, run a government"
Ronald reagan=president
Clint eastwood =mayor carmel
Arnold schwarzenegger= govenor california

why shouldn't hollywood actors be able to run a government? atleast schwarzenegger has better motives then bush.

I don't understand, does noone in america see that the usa is digging it's own grave? wouldn't all those billions be better spend on education than destruction? this war is in no way beneficial for america, or is it?

You are absolutely right Baron, but remember that Adolph Hitler became leader of Germany after a democratic election!!!

What the President of the USA does affects everyone on the planet, and George Bush is scaring everyone, he should be scaring the american people even more, his policies will bankrupt your nation!!!
$billions wasted in Afghanistan and Iraq and he hasn't finished yet.

Well, we elected him and the entire congress .....what do you want us to do? ....revolt?

And after the next election, should we also be allowed to tell them all what to do ....right after we put them into office? If so, why have elections in the first place ....why don't we just have protests and demonstrations every week to determine the course of the nation? If the news media likes one demonstration better than another one, we just change the course of the nation to whatever that group wants. Then the next week we do it all again?

Baron Max

.., john kerry was a silver star hero, ...

Not according to those who served with him!!

Baron Max

way to avoid the question,i dont think bush comes on sciforums so you can state your opinion (which you were asked for) without fear of him changing policy because of it.

I don't have an opinion because I don't know enough about it all. In fact, that's the very reason that we elect government officials in the first place! ...so we don't have to do it all!

My opinion counts for nothing now that the election is over ....and that's the way it should be. Or would you have the nation change policies based on protests and demonstrations once or twice a week?

Baron Max

I don't have an opinion because I don't know enough about it all. In fact, that's the very reason that we elect government officials in the first place! ...so we don't have to do it all!

My opinion counts for nothing now that the election is over ....and that's the way it should be. Or would you have the nation change policies based on protests and demonstrations once or twice a week?

Baron Max


no i'd like to know whether or not you think george bush is an intelligent man.

consider: http://slate.msn.com/id/76886/?nav=navoa

no i'd like to know whether or not you think george bush is an intelligent man.

It doesn't matter!!! He's been elected by the people of th United States of America ....he's our President. As well is the congress of the United States of America. We elected them to lead this nation, we did NOT elect them to listen to every dumb-assed, idiotic, uninformed asshole that might yell and bitch and moan!!!

What would you have the people of the USA do? Revolt? Start a civil war? Begin terrorist actions against the government? Assassinations? Please tell me!

Baron Max

It doesn't matter!!! He's been elected by the people of th United States of America ....he's our President. As well is the congress of the United States of America. We elected them to lead this nation, we did NOT elect them to listen to every dumb-assed, idiotic, uninformed asshole that might yell and bitch and moan!!!

What would you have the people of the USA do? Revolt? Start a civil war? Begin terrorist actions against the government? Assassinations? Please tell me!

Baron Max

no i'd like to know whether you think george bush is an intelligent man,why do you keep going off on weird tangents?

"John kerry was a silver star hero"
Not according to those who served with him!!

Baron Max

Baron are you going to ignore the fact he recieved the silver star, and listen to hear say, and accusations, the government of the day awarded him that silver star, who are you to strip him of it, you were not fighting along side him.

people come forward, when there is a fast buck to be made, and i am sure, if the price is right, they will say, the earth is flat too.

skywalker i thought bush was the dumbest man alive but now i think you make him look half intelligent,
are you fucking serious? thats why america is so fucked up man because dumb shits like you inhabit its land you are the only person ive ever insulted on this site jesus fucking christ you are a moron ile say nothing more to you ever again.

vincent dont even trouble yourself with simple minded americains like these (excluding some with intelligence you know who you are)

Sitting at my ranch in texas, i read these lies, America has prospered under my leadership, and has aspired to greater levels, of intelligence, and god fearing people.

We all stand united against the sept 11 killers, we will hunt them down in there caves, we will smoke them out, we will never forget sept11.

Sitting at my ranch in texas, i read these lies, America has prospered under my leadership, and has aspired to greater levels, of intelligence, and god fearing people.

We all stand united against the sept 11 killers, we will hunt them down in there caves, we will smoke them out, we will never forget sept11.

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