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lackofskill
10-16-05, 06:41 PM
Jsut let go of everything is what I need to do? Feelings, emotions, freinds, and everything else that brings us down in life..........Would that help, would that be like death what would happen if you or someone could do that....free fall with nothing on your mind.. zero, like it all began....

Fraggle Rocker
10-16-05, 11:42 PM
You can probably sort the things in your life that make up "everything" into three piles: Things that bring you up, things that bring you down, and things you're not sure about. If you trust your judgment you should hang onto the first pile. It would be sad to let go of true friends because they are the people who might be able to help you right now. Not to mention it would be really awful for them to suddenly lose one of THEIR true friends because the guy decided that they "bring him down." That can really depress a person! Friends deserve to be treated better than that.

It's a fail-safe plan, because if you don't think it turned out right you can always do another sort and be more stringent.

cosmictraveler
10-17-05, 06:55 AM
1.Jsut let go of everything is what I need to do?

2.Feelings, emotions, freinds, and everything else that brings us down in life..........Would that help, would that be like death what would happen if you or someone could do that....free fall with nothing on your mind.. zero, like it all began....


1. Why, you are where you are because of who's there with you and what's there with you. If you have a problem with one or more of these things try to seperate them away from the rest to see if your life gets any better. If you take a friend away and not see them find out if that helps you in any way. If you are in a climate that you don't likem move away for a brief period of time to see if that helps you.


2. Without feelings what would we be?We need to experiance those feelings from time to time for that's what makes us humans and what we are as individuals. Trying to surpress felings isn't a good thing to do unless those feelings are to hurt someone or yourself. If you feel down, that's alright for awhile but if it persists you might have a disease called depression and should see a doctor about getting help. your friends are always good to talk to about what you are feeling , they might help you understand those feelings better. That is if they are good friends.

Baron Max
10-17-05, 07:44 AM
Jsut let go of everything is what I need to do? Feelings, emotions, freinds, and everything else that brings us down in life..........Would that help, would that be like death what would happen if you or someone could do that....free fall with nothing on your mind.. zero, like it all began....

Many people have done that in the past, in particularly, philosophers and writers. Thoreau chucked it all and went to Walden Pond, remember? But I assure you, he isn't the only one.

It's good to get away sometimes and review life, all of it or just ones own, from a different perspective. If you feel like you want to do it and have the resourses, do it ...you'll enjoy it. And when you no longer enjoy it or you want to return to the "bosom of your fellow man", then you can do that, too.

Baron Max

kazbadan
10-17-05, 08:03 AM
Abandoning everything, friends, work, etc is bad choice unless you really know what u are doing. It would bring you donw even more. You have some major choices in your life in order to solve your problems:

1) You try to change the world and suit it to your needs. You try to go against the river of life.

2) You leave eveyrthing or leave the world. Escape from the things that give you headaches. Live the river of life.

3) You learn how to live with your problems. You learn a real way to go with the river of life.

1 and 2 are very hard to achieve and even if you were able to do that (ie, change everything aroud you) u wouldnt be happy at the same, because hapyness starts in our soul. So, i choose option 3. I was near to choose the second one (in the worst sense of the meaning, if you get what i mean). My life still be bad, i still have people and situations that take me out love and freedom, but at least i have my spirit. I still have the option to change my spirit.


You seem to be someone that dont know what to do with life. Why do you make that question? It seems to me that you are lost...i bet that your question its just not a simple philosophycal question, there is something more, isnt it? Whats is worrying you so much?

I cannot give solutions, but if you have real problems and if you are thinking on suicide, let me advise to went into a good doctor. Sometimes, external and professional help is the only way to see things that we never saw before. In my personal life, buddhism is what gives me strenght to fight. Even if my friends fly away from me and if life is really bad, at least i have the teachings of Buddha to give me energy.

bianca
10-17-05, 08:36 AM
consider what it is about your friends, family and emotions that upsets you; perhaps not all but only some need to be disposed of. i like your idea of beginning at zero, but beginning connotes growing away from zero too. happy searching

duendy
10-17-05, 08:51 AM
Jsut let go of everything is what I need to do?

me::tat makes sense. like anything...shit, sex, throwing a ball, dancin, singing, etc..if you dont let go it gets all constipated and jerky

Feelings, emotions, freinds, and everything else that brings us down in life..........Would that help, would that be like death what would happen if you or someone could do that....free fall with nothing on your mind.. zero, like it all began....
like heroin? thats what heroin users want. that feeling of ahhhhhhhh everytngs gone and i am in a spongey universe....but it dontlast, and reality comes back even mor jagged edged. so THAT dont work
we NEED to feel. that a cert. powers try and make us numb via manic media/enterrrrtaiiinment, and meds consumerism.

what i would remommend is te power of choice. whateve situation your in right now you have the power of choice to change it .....tis dont mean 'free fall'---that might be physical death who knows. whose come back to tell us. but what you can do is not be imaginingyou dont have a choice to change tings which aren't pleasing you. yeah it takes guts--cause many want the devil they know rather than the devl they dont. but you HAVE that powers what i mean

c7ityi_
10-17-05, 10:33 AM
duendy... i am a prisoner of my body... this world... i was crucified here... on the two beams of space and time...
things are alive... only because the self makes them alive...
escape from what?
escape from yourself.
nothingness is so good...
no friends... no family... it's so great...
no feelings... like a rock...
i never had... anything... and i hate all humans...
animals are good... and trees... but not humans...
because they love the world and their body...
more than the self...
i am not a body...
only the body has needs...
but not me...
i am a small will...
i became greater...
a small particle...
then...
an atom...
and i build a body for myself...
and i saw that it was good...
but...
yes.
this is nothingness...
everything is nothing...
no difference...
so the law of the universe is...
do what you want.

duendy
10-17-05, 11:01 AM
you ae saying all this as body........yo can believe what you want. i dont believe what you do. the philosophies that go on about being 'trapped' in the body and Nature i do not trust at all cause they are divisive and controlling

c7ityi_
10-17-05, 11:03 AM
yes... the body is only a tool by which i reveal myself...

duendy
10-17-05, 11:09 AM
yes... the body is only a tool by which i reveal myself...
'only a' ........'myself'

c7ityi_
10-17-05, 12:11 PM
duendy, i don't understand.

ok... now i understand. what i mean is: "the body is only a tool for the self to reveal the self" a tool for me to reveal me.

don't play with words, it causes unnecessary confusion.

at night, our bodies go to sleep but the spirit awakens.
at winter, our bodies go to sleep but the spirit awakens.

on the "day" it is the opposite.

beyond the 4 seasons is the zodiac.
we go around it.
everything has already happened.
time exists only in the mind, yet time must be ripe.

you know, you sound like a cool person, maybe we should hang out some day.

it just depends on how many aspects you want to reveal.
light is one, but it can be divided into many parts, colors.

earth, the matter, was created because the radiation from the zodiac met each other... an interference occured and produced concentration of the energy, materialization.

they knew everything. thousands of years ago.

i'll play some ffx, just defeated flux yesterday.

Meanwhile,
10-17-05, 12:39 PM
c7ityi_:
i never had... anything... and i hate all humans...
animals are good... and trees... but not humans...
because they love the world and their body...
more than the self...
i am not a body...
only the body has needs...
but not me...


Big mistake—committing yourself to certain words, and subsequently allowing those words to hold court and dominate an overall perspective. For instance, take the word "hate". One should use that one temperately—and bluntly. Because they seek to suck in more than they can chew. Such words have no welcome during periods of forbidden, cloistered existentialism. In fact, during periods of existentialism, those words can be ravingly distracting. And one doesn't quite want to loose all perspective during the emptiness of non-existence, right? Hence, I would recommend culturing words like "annoy". That one is good and so much more chic, adding a certain je ne sais quoi, a kosher touch of condescension when people become too boring.

I like these two a lot:
You're being too much.

c7ityi_
10-17-05, 12:45 PM
welcome

thanks :)

~ tek.8995g

I like these two a lot:
You're being too much.

i hate them pretty much.

n~e~9~5~y~8~g

Meanwhile,
10-17-05, 01:40 PM
i hate them pretty much.

Pretty good compromise...

spidergoat
10-17-05, 02:09 PM
Yes, that's what you have to do, and it is a kind of death.