Act as an emotional reset button to a place of pleasurable expectation, followed by what is perceived as an emotionally predictable/reliable (comfort zone) experience in retrospect regardless of the actual experience.

if you follow that what do you think. it was something I was thinking earlier but I'm not sure if I'm looking at it right.

yeah i guess just a backwards assed explanation of escapism. der.

that's one thing they could be.
some just do them cause they got nothing better to do.
it also depends on what kind of drug

I love to free base and have orgys. I dont see a problem, should try it some time

It's cheaper to do drugs than to spend two weeks in white sand beach in Barbados.

Originally posted by joemamaa
I love to free base and have orgys. I dont see a problem, should try it some time how do you know you love it if you haven't even tried it?

i think what joe meant was that he should try drugs. or that you should try orgies. im not sure wich.



drugs do lots of things.

"drugs are good
they make you do things you know you not should
and when you do them people think that your cool
yah, when you do them people think that your cool"

The cost of drugs today make them rather expensive to use. Take for example pot. Pot costs over 150.00 (for the good stuff) per ounce. It will last about a week if you share it with others and smoke allot. If you don't smoke much it could last you a month, but that isn't real. So say 2 weeks at 150.00 , that's 300.00 a month. 300.00 a month times 12 months is 3600.00 a year. I think that is rather expensive just to feel good for a short while.

Coke , on the other hand, will cost you more because the high doesn't last that long so you must do more in order to feel "high". It costs over 20.00 a gram so it lasts for about an hour. If you did it 3 times a day that would be 60.00 a day times as many days as you do it. Lets say about 2 times a week thats 120.00 per week. 120.00 per week times 52 weeks 6,240.00 a year.

Freebaseing costs even more, say about 20.00 per "high" but you can't stop "chasing the dragon" so you must keep buying in order to keep the "high" which lasts only minutes. Depending on your addiction it can run you over 5,000.00 per month with freebasing.

With every drug that's out there there's always a chanse it is "cut" with something that could hurt you. Not always , but sometimes people die from this "cutting" substance. Do you want to risk death in order to get high? That's a decission only you can make and only you can afford the drugs that cost within your price range.

That being said your only substituting the pleasure of being "high" on life with that of being "high" on drugs. Which can you afford and which is better for your body? Remember if you can't control the drug that you use, that is to say that you can stop using it anytime without needing it, then that drug controls you. Then who's in charge of your life, you or your dealer?

People are ment to have"'ups and downs" in life and to avoid those feelings by getting high or causing them by getting high then your not really being honest with yourself are you.

Wes is right about them being escapism.
It simply comes down to what we are taught and not taught about managing our states.
If we are not able or lack the skills neccessary to control and direct our focus upon things that benefit us or give us at least a minimal sense of control over ourselves, then obvisiously one beleives that it is to be obtained through outside influences.

When you eventually gain confidence in your ability to control your states in any circumstances, you will become less reliant on outside influences to direct your life.

Gaining control over your life is understanding that you may not be able to control outside circumstances, but that you can control the meaning of those circumstances, the acheivement of happiness,( what ever that means to you) will be tilted in your favour.

You can never distract yourself to fullfillment.
Blah Blah Blah.

:D
One more thing, doing drugs is not neccessarily a bad thing unless of course you become less without them.

To rely on drugs , to me, is to become controled by them to make you feel good. It is fine to feel anyway that you do. Why escape reality when you know that you'll have to return to it. It is better to deal with life without drugs for they cannot help you cope, they can't because it is a chemical that's doing it , not you.

Psychoactive substances run such a wide spectrum, that an opinion on all forms is difficult. I support complete legalization and decriminalization. It's certainly often recreational escapism and somewhat less often pathological escapism, which in neither case should be criminal. When it turns self-destructive, it's a waste but not a crime IMO. When alternate behavior harms or puts at risk any others beyond consenting participants, societal controls are necessary. I strongly resent the urinalysis I am subject to, but life's full of these compromises. Those out there who are Free, Please spark one up for me :m:

Drugs, like all sorts of other things, can be used for escape, or misused depending on the circumstances. However, as has been pointed out, "drugs" encompass a crazy-huge range of substances, with reactions that run the gamut. So, it's not very useful to me to think in broad general terms. Some drug experiences are exactly as you describe in your first post, wesmorris, whereas others are...different; I tend to find the latter predominates, in broad generalities ;)

Well spoken, hypewaders. I'm happy to take a nice-to-meet-you toke in your honour :)

Anybody with even a little self-control can do lighter drugs responsibly.


Take alcohol for example; Now whats the difference between that and mj? You're not condemned to drink beer or smoke every single week and so, you're not necessarily going to slide into a comfort rut. I know people that don't even make 4000$ a year and they still have plenty of money left after.

Oh-- and sometimes (okay, most of the time,) people do drugs to experience sensations that are sometimes dulled by modern routine. Not escape. I always use the talmudic analogy: When you die, the first thing God asks you is if you've tasted all of the earths fruits. Have you felt what a guayava smells like, or a kiwi on the tongue?

We do things to get 'high' that we don't even realize. Its a natural human instinct to press the reset button, to remind ourselves that we live in the *present*, and we should embrace it. We should embrace the fruit and our humanness.

Conclusion: If you have self-control issues, you shouldn't be climbing the fruit tree cause you'll hit the ground hard. Otherwise, enjoy the fruits! :m:

If you have self-control issues
i thought of myself as a very strong person... before i got into something bad.
then i learned that whatever self control i had, this thing is so much stronger than me, and i am completely powerless against it.

now that i'm "free" and i can think with a clear mind, i still want to do some once in a while... but back then when i had the mental addiction, i just could not think clearly. so what if i'm broke? so what if i should do homework? i gotta get high!

it is about escapism (taking a vacation from life). it is about quick fun. it is about psychadelia (a show). it is about being bored and having nothing better to do. it is about curiosity. it is about enhancing your enjoyment of music/sex/etc. . it is about many other things.

I know what you mean. Procrastination-taken-to-the-next-level symdrome.

Substance abuse is normally a symptom of being dissatisfied. And that shows poor self-control over any definate directions in life. If a person has strong and individualistic character traits they'll never get to the point where drug abuse becomes a problem, simply because they don't do it to escape(since there is nothing to escape from). That's why I prefer the 'recreational,' and 'in moderation' excuse.

Chemically, drugs only become addicting when a serious imbalance is already in place (ie depression, mental ilness,) which one either a) hasn't got control over, or b) is too weak willed to fight. In which case they should probably be avoiding drugs, and instead, solve their problems first.