Following the death of mark speights girlfriend, i want to ask a question, she died in a bath full of scolding hot water, causing 60% burns all over her body, my question is, she did a lot of cocaine, sleeping pills, and drink, now is it really possible for someone to be so stoned out of they're head that they wouldnt notice how hot the water is?

It just seems impossible to me, i know when i have had to much to drink i can still feal how hot or cold somthing is! I fact more so than when i can when i am sober!

I've seen drunks fall down stairs and get up badly hurt not realizing how bad it was. I would imagine all the drugs she did made her even more numb. Coke is a pain killer after all, isn't it?

If you overdose on almost any drug you will find that your judgment as to everything is completely destroyed. Not only won't you feel physical pain but mental pains also never happen. You can really escape from the world with enough drugs in your body which tend to destroy your morals just as well. :itold:

She could have been in the bath before it filled with scalding hot water, maybe.

Do some drugs give you the chills/shivers? Maybe she just kept adding hot water because she couldn't get warm enough.

Here's a thought, most water heaters are set to 110 degrees or thereabouts so how could she have had that hot of water to hurt her? Unless someone turned up the temperature on the water heater which then could go up to 150 degrees.

She could have been in the bath,passed out, before someone filled it with scalding hot water, maybe.

See edit: another maybe.

oh lord, is this gonna be like the whole Diana/Dodi conspiracy thing?

oh lord, is this gonna be like the whole Diana/Dodi conspiracy thing?

I believe that one.
Diana died. Dodi died. Dodos died.
Someone's killing D's.

I believe that one.
Diana died. Dodi died. Dodos died.
Someone's killing D's.

and then Pete Doherty OD's next...(and you know he will)

and then Pete Doherty OD's next...(and you know he will)

oh we can live in hope! (nasty yes but hey who cares)

Then they swap OD around to DO and people stop DO'ing, and that was another D gone to it's maker :(

and then Pete Doherty OD's next...(and you know he will)
You are bad, Orleander!

I've been drunk enough to get hurt and not realize it until the next day. Drugs are bad and will make you do dumb things and not feel pain. or at least not care about it.

I've damaged myself and not known about it until afterwards because I was high on adrenaline...

Now translate that to deliberately putting much stronger shit than adrenaline in your bloodstream.

The pain may have put her into shock and made her pass out in the bath.

Following the death of mark speights girlfriend, i want to ask a question, she died in a bath full of scolding hot water, causing 60% burns all over her body, my question is, she did a lot of cocaine, sleeping pills, and drink, now is it really possible for someone to be so stoned out of they're head that they wouldnt notice how hot the water is?

It just seems impossible to me, i know when i have had to much to drink i can still feal how hot or cold somthing is! I fact more so than when i can when i am sober!
Yeah but being drunk is a lot different than mixing 3 or 4 drugs together. All kinds of unpredictable stuff happens when you mix drugs, especially mixing something like cocaine (a stimulant) with sleeping pills (a depressant) and alcohol (another depressant). Sleeping pills are made to depress your nervous system, take enough of them then mix it with another depressant and sure, you could probably burn yourself without noticing.

Or maybe she just slipped, passed out & then died.

Either way, she's dead. No conspiracy, just a tragic accident.

Although I like this D theory, let's hope they hurry up & get to Dido. But I think Doherty should get a repreive - I'd hate for him to die before people realise he's a mediocre talent at best.

Let's all have a prayer for Donald Duck. Poor guy is doubly cursed.

Ive been absolutely trashed before, and i wasnt about to burn myself. No matter what drug you use, if your smart enough you can keep your sense about you.

Cocaine makes you numb. Sleeping pills make you sleep. Alcohol does both. It's that easy.

drugs are good. drugs save lives, drugs end pain, drugs kill, drugs are bad, drugs are abused, kids die from drugs.

parents should stop drug use, doctors should prescribe more drugs, they should make drugs for more problems people deal with, they should make less drugs people can abuse.

drug addicts should go to rehab, pharmaceutical goods should be sold more carefuly, drugs should be cheaper, drugs should last longer, and easier to get a hold of

No matter what drug you use, if your smart enough you can keep your sense about you.Provided you don't do too much.

Some drugs like ketamine were originally developed as field anaesthetics, because they have a large effective dose range. Wack yourself full of enough K and you can, literally, be hit by a truck and you don't know it. Same goes for all the sedatics like valium, GHB, rohypnol etc. They are designed to make you unconcious when you're in pain. Pain killers like opiods and opiates might, might, leave you concious but will make you much more immune to pain. Again, you can have a broken arm and not mind.

I had morphine after my tonsils were taken out. I was aware it was uncomfortable but didn't seem to mind. It was 'comfortable'. Really weird feeling.

So if you're not drunk as hell or high as ****, you can have your wits about you. But by the very definition of 'doing too much', you can be so ****ed up you don't realise what state your body is in.

LA sleeping pills and achole are both seditives, both can make you fall temporaly unconcious. The difference between sleep and unconcious is the lack of the return to conciousness when a pain responce is introduced.

Im not sure of exactly what cocaine does but if its anything like morphine and heroin then it will dull the bodies ability to recognise pain as well and there for mean a larger pain stimulas is require under NORMAL circumstances (which being dosed with achole and seditives cirtanly isnt)

So yes its very concivable for a pt to badly injure themselves with no atempt to save themselves in these cirumstances

cocaine isnt anything like morphine or heroin. It does block pain, but it wires you also.