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Discussion in 'Human Science' started by R1D2, Oct 30, 2012.

  1. R1D2 many leagues under the sea. Valued Senior Member

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    I heard it said before. Know yourself and know your enemies.
    Do you know yourself? If you think so. How do you fully understand who you are? And how do you know 100% all about yourself? We are always changing, and in fights we could lose at any time..
    Is it psychology that makes us? Our past? Or is it just us who makes us the way we are?
     
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  3. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    I know the nature of my self, which is that it's different depending on your frame of reference. In other words, there is no fixed self, only something which generates thoughts.
     
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  5. Buddha12 Valued Senior Member

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    We are changing as time goes by. As children we are just beginning to explore who we are and through young adulthood we keep searching as to who we are but as we turn into adults we know allot about ourselves but keep learning as we age. Understanding about ourselves takes time and going through certain things in life that makes us who we are. Schools, military, friends and families are just a few influencing factors as to what makes us who we are.

    By our 30's we should realize even more about ourselves and by then have a very good understanding about exactly who we are and what we believe. But sometimes through life we get thrown into situations that will ever alter who we are and that can happen at any time. But by our 40's we really do understand ourselves pretty much and know what we would do in situations that might develop in our lives. Again anything can alter our condition do to the fact that we are made to adapt to things that might happen to us along our path.
     
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  7. R1D2 many leagues under the sea. Valued Senior Member

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    Thanks for the input so far.
    My wife says a lot of the times she can't figure me out. Or I don't understand, your not making since. I can't explain it to her all the time. I sometimes just do things my way. And they are confusing at times for others. And I seem to not be able to figure myself out sometimes. I feel many times I am like a rubix cube, all mixed up. And I don't feel I fit in anywhere at all at times. Or I am not really wanted. I guess I am trying to get a grasp on how you come to understand yourself. I know I have been through many trials in my life. Many ups and downs. But I feel like I may be missing something. I would also like to get a better understanding of how one should go about understanding themselves.
     
  8. Buddha12 Valued Senior Member

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    By listening to others and what they say about us, in a non condesending way, we can learn about ourselves as long as whoever it is isn'y trying to just be manipiulative or conning us. Others reflect who we are to them so by listening to them we can get a understanding of what we are like to them which is what we are to many others as well. Being confused about ourselves isn't odd but just part of trying to figure ourselves out as we se ourselves differently from time to time but still have certain values we hold as our foundations to grow from.
     
  9. river

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    I did in my younger days I went out and did alot of things on my own, bars etc. And went to expo-86 by bus alone

    I find that people do perhaps to much in a crowd, group, so not enough on their own

    Being alone for a time , was for me a good thing
     
  10. Neverfly Banned Banned

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    Sounds like me sometimes. No matter how much effort I may try to put into paying attention to others thoughts and feelings, sometimes I'm still an ass.
    Sometimes, coherent and rational and other times quick to anger.
    Most of the time, I think I've got a general grasp on things but there are still moments of uncertainty or situations where I feel like I'm viewing life though fractured glass.

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  11. R1D2 many leagues under the sea. Valued Senior Member

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    trust you, your a Doctor right Doctor Neverfly.
    I have been quick to anger as well. I have gotten much better with it in the last... 4 years I think.
     
  12. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Yeah, you are a strange dude. Not sure why that would be.
     
  13. KilljoyKlown Whatever Valued Senior Member

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    There's how you see yourself, and there's how others see you and the real you is somewhere in between those two extremes. What makes that interesting is that with everyone you meet or know, those two extremes will be different. With a spouse or lover the ideal would be for those two extremes to be very close together. I'm betting that doesn't happen as often as it should.

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  14. R1D2 many leagues under the sea. Valued Senior Member

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    So you have noticed...
    Well I am not sure either. Maybe its because I hang out here.
     
  15. siledre Registered Senior Member

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    I think there are facets to our nature that don't change or change very slowly, I still have some parts of who I am that are the same as when I was a child. Then there are those parts of us that change constantly with the change of our environment and society. Then you factor in individuals who are either slow to change or quick to change, those that can accept the movement of time and society and those that need time to assimilate those changes. As long as you have a base, those facets to our nature that don't change or change slowly, then you have a better grasp of who you are. I had a friend get mad at me once for this very reason, said I was changing, what I told him is that who I am deep down is still the same but there are pieces to the puzzle that will change from time to time but I will always be the best friend I can be. Human behavior really can't be quantified as a whole, individually maybe. but that's the great thing about us, we're never boring.
     
  16. Fraggle Rocker Staff Member

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    Sure. Just look at the Meyers-Briggs profile. Once you reach both physical and emotional maturity around age 30, if you're (say) an ESFP, you're probably going to always be an ESFP. Yet... I've always been an INTJ, scoring very high in all four dimensions. But recently (I'm 69) I've begun mellowing that "I" and I'm now close to the middle of the scale between I and E.

    An introvert dissipates his energy among others, and recharges it by spending time alone. But now if I've been alone for a while, without even thinking about it I find myself seeking out company--even anonymous company. For example, I'll unconsciously arrange to do my shopping on the weekend when the stores are more crowded, so I get more company AND it takes longer. I spend more time among more people.
     

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