child being an introvert , is this okay ?

Discussion in 'Human Science' started by river, Mar 2, 2012.

  1. river

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    nowadays it seems that we view a child who is an introvert so as being , non-social etc and hence we try to make or encourage this to more so ( I'm not talking Autism here ) is this a good thing .

    so do we look at a child or your child , if a introvert , has a psychological problem ?

    ( video game child excluded here as well )

    thoughts
     
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  3. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Valued Senior Member

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    That's a really complicated question

    Honestly, it's a case-by-case issue. Certes, some trends arise if one collects enough data regarding individuals, but the question of why a child is introverted may or may not have specific implications.

    In truth, it's hard to give much more of an answer; to wit, a "mommy's boy" (or "daddy's girl") and a child in the throes of response to trauma can both be viewed in many cases as results of operant conditioning, but no single theory of cause and effect, and no single theory of normalization, can account for condition or recovery in any general context—the resolution demands specificity.

    Beyond that, the question of introversion is one of quality of life versus liberty. And the spectrum of juxtaposition is only as finite as humanity itself.
     
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  5. river

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    what kind of " specific implications "



    so an introverted child is because of some sort of " trauma " ?



    don't quite get what you mean here ?
     
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  7. river

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    so introvert has no liberty nor quality of life ?

    why ?

    still don't get this , explain
     
  8. przyk squishy Valued Senior Member

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    About one in four people would be considered introverted. It's perfectly normal.

    I am highly introverted. Sometimes I feel a bit left out of social interactions because of my tendency to mostly keep to myself, but on balance I wouldn't have it any other way.
     
  9. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Valued Senior Member

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    It's a nearly impossibly complex question compared to present human knowledge

    See below, regarding liberty and quality of life.

    No. What I'm getting at is that there are many reasons for introversion.

    See below, regarding juxtaposition.

    Introversion pertains in some very specific contexts to the idea of socialization. Diverse studies indicate myriad implications of socialization on quality of life. The question then becomes whether or not introversion hinders quality of life.

    The question of liberty is straightforward enough: Should we medicate introverts so that they are less introverted? Personally, I would say no, as an introvert has the right to be introverted unless that introversion is reasonably construed as being somehow dangerous.

    Trying to pin down the reasons and effects of introversion is more than just tricky. It involves various factors, not clearly resolved in any scientific context, as applied to each individual. I can't even do the math. There are seven billion people in the world, the number of factors involved is unknown, and the manner in which those factors relate to one another is likewise a mystery. How to juxtapose considerations quality of life and questions of liberty is, presently—and to borrow a phrase from Pratchett and Gaiman—a bit like "being involved in an obscure and complex variant of poker in a pitch-dark room, with blank cards, for infinite stakes, with a Dealer who won't tell you the rules, and who smiles all the time".

    Beyond that, we still have not established what it means to be "okay" insofar as the topic question is concerned. Is being introverted okay? In what context? It might be a bit lonely. It might be more stimulating than dealing with other people. It might degrade one's quality of life and lifespan expectation; it might exclude from one's experiences any number of factors that frustrate quality of life and reduce lifespan.

    The best psychologists and psychiatrists have developed only the most rudimentary quality of life indices pertaining to socialization; we're a long way off from being able to comprehend the mere implications of your question, speak nothing of finding a valid and reliable answer.
     
  10. gmilam Valued Senior Member

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    I rank high on the introvert scale. It's never been a problem for me - except when some dufus tries to "pull me out of my shell".
     
  11. river

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    true

    so am I


    but nowadays society tends to push the introverts into a more social personality , thinking that this a more " normal " way to be

    do you agree with this ? should introverts be more social ?
     
  12. Crunchy Cat F-in' *meow* baby!!! Valued Senior Member

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    No. Introverts are who they are because of genetics (as people have mentioned, it's 100% normal). It is a valuable skill for introverts to understand how to socialize at an extraverted level. The reason for thiis is success in life often depends on social relationships.
     
  13. przyk squishy Valued Senior Member

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    I haven't noticed this too much. I've got a few comments on my old school report cards from teachers who thought it would be nice if I interacted more with fellow students. I've also got friends who try to push me out sometimes, but they don't overdo it or do it in a way that implies they think I should be more "normal". That's about it really.

    I suppose it depends on where you live though. For instance America comes off to me as a place dominated by extraverted individuals where you're expected to stick your neck out more. I've lived all my life in Europe so far, where people overall tend to tone it down a bit more.

    Among places I've lived, I remember Norway as a particularly pleasant country to live in if you're introverted.
     
  14. river

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    so there is somewhat of a balance between being introverted and extraverted

    but to your second point , couldn't you have just one or two people that are social , rather than a group , and be successful or just on your own merits ?
     
  15. river

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    do you feel uncomfortable in a crowd ?
     
  16. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Not necessarily. If it doesn't affect his ability to learn, work, relate to others, form relationships etc then it's not a problem.
     
  17. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    Many children have "problems" when they are young but usually grow out of them over time but there are some who need medical attention and their parents should be the best to tell if they do.
     
  18. przyk squishy Valued Senior Member

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    Not especially, no. At least not beyond the inconveniences that go with being in a crowd (lower mobility, longer queues, etc.).
     
  19. river

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    what medical problems though ( in the OP I eliminated Autism ) and (video or gamers , although I don't call them introverts in the way I mean )

    so is there any other situations where introverts need medication ?
     
  20. river

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    I was thinking of more a party crowd , at a bar , or a house party ( should have been more clear , sorry )
     
  21. przyk squishy Valued Senior Member

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    Even there I usually don't have much of a problem. Being an introvert my limitation is that I don't handle conversations with crowds very well. I can carry a conversation with a single friend pretty much indefinitely, but already with 2-3 other people I tend to get drained within a few minutes. I can still attend a party with a lot of people and enjoy the ambiance, just as long as I'm not forced to constantly interact with everyone else there.
     
  22. Bells Staff Member

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    My eldest is very much an introvert amongst people he does not know or has just met. He will sit there and observe for a length of time before venturing in. He is very close to his school friends, cousins and brother on a social level, but with strangers, he is overly reserved until he decides if he wants to socialise with them and we will often see him just desire some alone time to draw or paint or read for a while before playing with others again... He is also very analytical.. Which I think is good. Unlike my youngest who barges into everything head first and is very much the extrovert.

    As for the OP, there is nothing wrong with being an introvert, so long as there is some ability to socialise with others. If one is an introvert who is completely unable to socialise with anyone at all, then it may be a problem.
     
  23. Fraggle Rocker Staff Member

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    Well said. Name a psychological "disorder" and these days there is probably a profession in which it's an advantage. People with ADD and dyslexics both have an advantage when attempting to become good managers: they HAVE TO delegate!

    As for introverts, the information technology arena is chock-full of them. They enjoy working with technology more than people. Anybody with a kid who's an introvert should give him or her a computer, and books on how to program it, right away.

    Like so many of our traits, this can change with age. I was a staunch introvert when I was very young. Now as I approach 70 I find that I rather enjoy the company of other humans. And this isn't a sudden change. With every passing decade I became more of an E and less of an I on the Myers-Briggs scale.

    One definition of the two is that an introvert gives away energy to other people and has to spend time alone to recharge, whereas an extrovert is just the opposite. So it's not necessarily that introverts don't like being around people, more that they can only take so much before they start to run down. And an extrovert starts to feel starved and deprived if he spends too much time alone.
     

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