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they eat dogs and cats,they pollute more then any other country in the history of the world, they have the WORST human rights record in modern histroy.



I say lets nuke china,no one will care,the world will be a better place,and its a war that would be popular among the informed peoples of the world.


god damn i HATE the chinese.

and we can draft the mexicans into service too,kill two birds with one stone.

no chinese atrocities and no more illegals ,sounds like a win win to me.

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they eat dogs and cats,they pollute more then any other country in the history of the world, they have the WORST human rights record in modern histroy.



I say lets nuke china,no one will care,the world will be a better place,and its a war that would be popular among the informed peoples of the world.


god damn i HATE the chinese.

and we can draft the mexicans into service too,kill two birds with one stone.

no chinese atrocities and no more illegals ,sounds like a win win to me.
Wow! You really ARE just a little kid, aren't you?

You'd better stick to just commenting on sci-fi shows and leave the world to the adults.

im sorry,do like eating dogs,poisoning children and killing innocent people?

if you do we can add you to the list.


maybe we can just hold you down and forcibly abort your children.



http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn6690


http://yaleglobal.yale.edu/display.article?id=5058


http://www.buyhard.fsnet.co.uk/forcedabortions.htm


http://portal.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2001/08/05/wchin05.xml




you read all that and tell me that the people who poison YOU and YOUR children with toxic products,mercury pollution and have forced abortions and eat dogs are good people and we should continue to kiss their ass instead of wipe them from earth.


allthou i will admit the mexican thing was joke[sort of],but im dead serious about getting rid of at LEAST the chinese government and anyone who supports them.

I dunno about liking/disliking the Chinese, but it would be militarily advantageous to take them out now before they get more powerful.

No one will do that of course and the Chinese will soon dominate the West militarily.

im serious,does any even LIKE china?

who here agrees with what they are doing?

I dunno about liking/disliking the Chinese, but it would be militarily advantageous to take them out now before they get more powerful.

No one will do that of course and the Chinese will soon dominate the West militarily.



the chinese lost to japan and tiawan on more then one occasion.

and have you seen the ''quality'' of there manufacturing?piss poor would be an upgrade.

lets say you're right. how are we supposed to kill 1.3 billion people?

im serious,does any even LIKE china?

Yeah, I do. I think they're cool, and that a few things the government does don't reveal what the people are about. My favorite are the Nationalist Chinese, of course.

But I think the West will face them in battle sooner or later; might as well get it over with.

im sorry,do like eating dogs,poisoning children and killing innocent people?

if you do we can add you to the list.


maybe we can just hold you down and forcibly abort your children.



http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn6690


http://yaleglobal.yale.edu/display.article?id=5058


http://www.buyhard.fsnet.co.uk/forcedabortions.htm


http://portal.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2001/08/05/wchin05.xml




you read all that and tell me that the people who poison YOU and YOUR children with toxic products,mercury pollution and have forced abortions and eat dogs are good people and we should continue to kiss their ass instead of wipe them from earth.


allthou i will admit the mexican thing was joke[sort of],but im dead serious about getting rid of at LEAST the chinese government and anyone who supports them.

No, Mars, I absolutely do NOT like what they're doing! But I don't like you either - not one bit. Is that some reason for me to kill you?

It's people who think the way you do and want to solve problems in your way that keep the world in trouble. You're not even smart enough to know that nuking China would render about 2/3 of the whole world unfit for habitation.

Grow up (or just go away).

lets say you're right. how are we supposed to kill 1.3 billion people?

1.4 million bullets.

BTW, China versus the West: they fought against US troops in Korea, lost but barely, so came back in Vietnam by supporting the VC/NVA. Now it's possible they're sending arms to Iraq. Weaken the enemy, then attack him when you are fresh. Smart, itz.

But I don't like you either - not one bit. Is that some reason for me to kill you?

Why don't you try?

No, Mars, I absolutely do NOT like what they're doing! But I don't like you either - not one bit. Is that some reason for me to kill you?

It's people who think the way you do and want to solve problems in your way that keep the world in trouble. You're not even smart enough to know that nuking China would render about 2/3 of the whole world unfit for habitation.

Grow up (or just go away).




we can use big blues instead[just as powerful but non nuclear],and some of the chinese will fight WITH us,but the dog eating,forced abortions one have got to go.


and yes,if you want to kill me your welcome to try.but im a firm beliver in the constitution.and belive me,im armed.



liberty or death anyone?


the war is coming,chinas been gearing up for decades,you may as well get on the winning boat.

and the last time i checked its ok to be mad at people who poison you with mercury.


you might like the nerve/brain damage from chinas pollution,but i sure as hell dont.




i guess you wouldnt have any problem with me throwing mercury in your face and eating you dog then.



people who try to kill you are called ENEMIES,and ENEMIES should be killed before they kill you,thats basic human survival.

im sorry im human and have a survival instinct.

Why don't you try?
Maybe not such a bad idea, eh? :D We could sure do without him and the world would be a better place, too. ;)

Maybe not such a bad idea, eh? :D We could sure do without him and the world would be a better place, too. ;)



i know,you love PAYING china to give you mercury poisoning.

yep,you turbo smart,i wish i was as smart as you.

your probably the same retard that would trade freedoms for ''security''.


yep,your the smartest person ever.


dont get mad at people who poison you,yeah good plan.

wanting to kill 1.4 billion chinese for the reasons you stated is like a chinese person wanting to kill 300 million americans for going to war with iraq. not everyone is responsible for the things they are doing. in fact most of the population of china is below poverty level and has nothing to do with government decisions (being that china is communistic and a bit authoritarian). i would wager to guess that a lot of the people in china don't like what their government is doing either. most of the country is third-world.

another thing, the reason we are not going to war with china, nor will we anytime soon is because we are so dependant upon their exports. we are in a tight spot with them because we import so many of their products, but they are not as dependant on us. they have the upper hand, economically.

i said only the ones who agree with the chinese government.

most of the chinese population would back us in a war.

they dont like the forced abortions and mercury poisoning either.who would?[just the rich who profit from it and the cowards who support them]


but anyone who thinks those are good ideas gets the ax.



and we are only ''dependent''on their exports becuase all the business owners are CHINESE!!!! or just dont care.


america was fine before outsourcing,we will be again after outsourcing.

i know,you love PAYING china to give you mercury poisoning.

yep,you turbo smart,i wish i was as smart as you.

your probably the same retard that would trade freedoms for ''security''.


yep,your the smartest person ever.


dont get mad at people who poison you,yeah good plan.
Get real, punk, just how is China posioning ME?

i guess youve never heard of the ATMOSPHERE,or air pollution,have you?


or toxic products that come from china and have ZERO epa regulation.

the majority of chinese plastics contain lead and other toxic chemicals,and since they have ZERO pollution laws and use exclusivly high sulpher coal for fuel they have increased mercury pollution beyond that of any other country.


see,we live on ONE PLANET,and if they pollute there,the WIND carries it around the globe.

chinese air pollution is showing up on the west coast in larger quantities then we produce.

japan would have almost no pollution if it wernt for chinas horridly dirty air.


you didnt even read the links i posted did you?

i guess youve never heard of the ATMOSPHERE,or air pollution,have you?


or toxic products that come from china and have ZERO epa regulation.

the majority of chinese plastics contain lead and other toxic chemicals,and since they have ZERO pollution laws and use exclusivly high sulpher coal for fuel they have increased mercury pollution beyond that of any other country.


see,we live on ONE PLANET,and if they pollute there,the WIND carries it around the globe.

chinese air pollution is showing up on the west coast in larger quantities then we produce.

japan would have almost no pollution if it wernt for chinas horridly dirty air.


you didnt even read the links i posted did you?

No, I didn't bother with your silly link. I figured it was just as much off the mark as you are.

And I honestly don't care what's in their plastic products - I don't eat plastic.

No, I didn't bother with your silly link. I figured it was just as much off the mark as you are.

And I honestly don't care what's in their plastic products - I don't eat plastic.


i know you would rather remain ignorant,that is apparent to everyone.just because you ignore facts about other countries doesnt change informed peoples views of them,and it certainly doesnt change any quantifiable facts about pollution on earth.


and you TOUCH the plastic,you BREATH the plastic,and your a fool to think WORLD pollution doesnt affect you.


you should take your childish views elsewhere,your invisible force fields of ignorance wont protect you.

Keep in mind that all the items you buy which are made in China that have fur on them, it's actually dog fur. And they skin the dogs alive because if done while dead, it frizzes up the fur or something like that. I saw a sick ass documentary on TV about it awhile ago.

- N

"invisible force fields of ignorance "

I want one!

Can I get a "death ray of stupidity" too?

they eat dogs and cats,they pollute more then any other country in the history of the world, they have the WORST human rights record in modern histroy. I say lets nuke china,no one will care,the world will be a better place,and its a war that would be popular among the informed peoples of the world. god damn i HATE the chinese. and we can draft the mexicans into service too,kill two birds with one stone. no chinese atrocities and no more illegals ,sounds like a win win to me.It's really bad when somebody does things you don't like. But do you know what's worse? What's worse is when people start killing each other because they do things the other one doesn't like. No good has ever come of killing in anger. Not war, not assassination, not murder, not terrorism, not execution, not crimes of passion.

China may be a bad place but it's infinitely better than Somalia or Iraq, where people are killing each other because they don't like what they do.

The Americans and Germans and Russians and British and Japanese and French and Italians and everybody else tried killing each other in World War II because they didn't like what each other was doing. The Americans thought it was great when our side won. But then we blinked and the direct consequence of WWII was the Soviet Union becoming a major world power and getting half of the developed world into its sphere of influence. We spent almost fifty years threatening each other with nuclear weapons and cowering in fear because of that. We fought more wars in Korea and Vietnam because of that. Israel became a country and Palestine became a refugee camp because of that. The Mideastern countries were played against each other like dominoes because of that. The Taliban came into power in Afghanistan because of that. We're fighting in Iraq because of that.

China became the threat you see today because of that.

"You can never do just one thing."

Remember that. The bigger and more horrible the thing is that you do on purpose, the bigger and more horrible are the things you do that you don't realize until it's too late.

BTW, the Germans have the worst human rights record in modern history. You have to normalize the quantity of evil over the size of the population. The number of people killed by the Nazis in war and in concentration camps was equal to about half the population of their country. No one who came after them has matched that performance. I wonder if anyone who came before them did?

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they eat dogs and cats, they pollute more then any other country in the history of the world, they have the WORST human rights record in modern history.While I’m sure you don’t need to be reminded of this, but what the hey, you’re an idiot.

1) There is nothing more or less inhumane about eating a dog/cat over eating a cow/lamb.

2) For most of modern History, it has been America that has used the most of the Worlds resources and has put more CO2 in the atmosphere than all other countries combined, so much so that the entire planets ecosystems are collapsing and the whole God damn planet is heating up.

3) AU pollutes more per person than any other country.

4) Europe and America made the Capitalistic system and support it at all costs – including environmental - so stop whining about China and nuke yourselves.

5) Let the Chinese worry about their own internal affairs, it’s really none of your business. Stop watching Fox News, most Chinese support their government.

6) They have the worse human rights on record? Hmmm…
I don’t seem to remember China invading and killing off most of the endogenous peoples in the world?
No, that would be the Europeans.
I don’t remember the Chinese selling Humans from Africans as slaves?
No that would again be the Europeans and Americans.
I don’t remember the Chinese nuking another country’s civilians?
No, that would be America.


You’re an idiot. You know nothing about China, the Chinese nor Chinese History.

Quick now, go give GW a mouth full and a smile and fight for Amercia's freedom in Iraq. ;)

endogenous peoples

What the hell is an endogenous person? :)

AmishRakeFight

for the record i thinks w's the worst ''president'' in american history.i voted against him twice.



and the american system is broken,thats painfully clear,but we are not talking about america we are talking about china.

the majority of americas problems are rooted in corupt governments and the sheeple that support them.

hell,the labor secretary is chinese for gods sake.



but the fact remains,cats and dogs are not food,the toxic crap chinas been shoving down our throat will mutilate you and your children,and forced aboritions and sterilizations are not cool.

if the america written in the constitution ran the world we would have a utopia.

if china rules the world,we get cancer,dog eggrolls,and walmart garbage.


and if you think chinas not gunning for a take over you dont pay very much attention to what they have been up too.

a chinese/russian alliance would crush us like bugs.

russia has the technology and oil,china has the man power and manufacturing.


they outnumber us 5-1,and they have 10X the manufacturing base,and we owe them trillions .

they could call our debt and drop the dollar to less then the peso overnite,and they will when they are throu making us bankroll our own destruction.


i guess you never read the art of war,it is a chinese book.

read it and tell me chinas not going to try a takeover,not global,just enough to crush america.

I don't know why the neo-cons aren't nuking China. One billion Chinese to liberate. How can our Yankee heroes pass up such a golden opportunity? *snorts*

What the hell is an endogenous person? :)

AmishRakeFightOk OK, endogenous to Earth and indigenous to their particular part of Earth :)

But really, why this constant blame of Chinese? WTF? Jesus, I hear it all the time from all sorts of people. It's really getting under my skin. And you know, most of the time these people have no clue as to China and it's history and culture and have never befriended a Chinese.

So the Chinese are hardworking and have grabbed a chunk of the manufacturing jobs in Amercia. That’s THEIR fault? So the Chinese have a government that is corrupt? Hello….anyone home.... A…M…E…R…I…C…A!

Has their even been a 25 year period in all of America’s history as a nation when its leaders weren’t attacking and killing some other peoples for their resources? I doubt it.

So I think Americans (of which I am one – and AU too :) should take a good look at why they are constantly blaming the Chinese. That of course means looking to see what's on TV at 8pm. And then take a look at their Shit leaders and, I know this is going to hurt, but try using that grey glob and connect the dots.

It’s not the Chinese fault that America is going down the tubes – it the citizens of Americas fault.

It’s OUR fault.

China and Russia will not ally anytime soon, in my opinion. They have too many cultural differences, as well as domestic policy differences. The only common bond they have is Communism.

AmishRakeFight

China and Russia will not ally anytime soon, in my opinion. They have too many cultural differences, as well as domestic policy differences. The only common bond they have is Communism.

AmishRakeFight


Don't ever underestimate the power of money, enemies become friends because of it.

but the fact remains,cats and dogs are not food, They are if you eat them.

,the toxic crap chinas been shoving down our throat will mutilate you and your children, You buy it and shove it down your own throats. So this is American’s fault not the Chinese.

Your EPA et.al. allow the items in as safe to be sold.
Again American’s fault not the Chinese.

and forced abortions and sterilizations are not cool. If that’s their law then that’s the law.

As it’s China and Chinese and not America and Americans then it’s really none of your business. That is what the majority of Chinese have decided is best and so it is their law. Every Chinese I have met supports it as a needed regulation because of the large number of Chinese.

And you know mars13, doubling a population of 1.5 billion people may actually be unsustainable. Eventually the entire world may have to install similar programs.

Not to mention the West has had forced sterilizations before.

if the america written in the constitution ran the world we would have a utopia. This reminds me of something I heard:

If the entire world was communist then we’d have utopia.

Or

When the entire world becomes Islamic then we will have utopia.

Get over it, there will never be utopia because people are not happy with equality – they want to be better than their fellow man.

if china rules the world,we get cancer,dog eggrolls,and walmart garbage. China is not going to so stop worrying.

a chinese/russian alliance would crush us like bugs.

russia has the technology and oil,china has the man power and manufacturing. Again American’s fault not the Chinese.

they outnumber us 5-1,and they have 10X the manufacturing base,and we owe them trillions .
So we shouldn’t have sold our soul for a dollar – so yet again this is American’s fault not the Chinese.

they could call our debt and drop the dollar to less then the peso overnite,and they will when they are throu making us bankroll our own destruction. And again we should have thought of that before huh? So that’s American’s fault for selling their future not the Chinese for buying it.

i guess you never read the art of war,it is a chinese book. Yes Sun Tzu’s book but so what - that’s American’s fault for not investing in their future with proper schooling and for being illiterate centrists with little to no idea a world exists outside of its boarders – that certainly not the Chinese fault!

Also, it's worth mentioning that China, logistically, could only fight effectively from their homeland. So China has a massive army; it does nothing if you can't get the troops to the battlefield. China's Navy and Air Force combined can only transport 1/4 of China's army, which, even if it is still a large amount, it debunks the theory that since China has more people, they will win a war against America. China has fewer allies than America, and America's allies' militaries are more sophisticated technologically, as well as better trained. So, unless the war is waged on Chinese soil, the Chinese military machine cannot fully flex its muscle.

"A large army that is inflexible will easily be taken captive by the small army that is flexible". - Sun Tzu (Lao Tzu)

AmishRakeFight

Mars13,

I like China's space programme.

im sorry,do like eating dogs,poisoning children and killing innocent people?
You're an American... right? Do you not see the irony?
Also, how is eating dogs so very different to eating any other domesticated animal?

Also, it's worth mentioning that China, logistically, could only fight effectively from their homeland. So China has a massive army; it does nothing if you can't get the troops to the battlefield. China's Navy and Air Force combined can only transport 1/4 of China's army, which, even if it is still a large amount, it debunks the theory that since China has more people, they will win a war against America. China has fewer allies than America, and America's allies' militaries are more sophisticated technologically, as well as better trained. So, unless the war is waged on Chinese soil, the Chinese military machine cannot fully flex its muscle.

"A large army that is inflexible will easily be taken captive by the small army that is flexible". - Sun Tzu (Lao Tzu)

AmishRakeFight



there are hundreds of chinese supply ship entering america every day,each one could easily be filled with soldiers rather then walmart garbage.

each ship could contain 100,000 soldiers,they could have there entire army here within days,and be mobilized before we even know about.

its impotant to note that these troops would effectivly seal all ports to america and bombs dont work so good on your own soil.


imagine a large flexible army vs a small non exsistant army in iraq or buttholistan or where ever they are now.

with no imports,and no army,all we have are fat stupid idiots in suvs.

we have no manufacturing to get addtional supplies and we will be cut off from forign supplies as the ports would belong to the chinese,and china will have endless incoming supplies to there troops.

after 1 week would have no food or gas,the heavily populated coasts would be destroyed and under chinese control,leaving a scattered resistance of rednex in the midwest,and since they will be cut off from supplies as well,they will have no means of even getting to the battle.




and yes,eating cow and chicken is more moral then eating dog,or horse,or cat,or monkey,its the intelligence factor of your food that is the morality.

this is also why i hate the french,they eat horses among other things.

they may as well be cannibals.



also,most people dont know this,but out entire military relies on GPS to operate,without all planes are grounded,and communications and troop movements are severly hindered.

china in space means destruction of our communications and GPS.

and yes,eating cow and chicken is more moral then eating dog,or horse,or cat,or monkey,its the intelligence factor of your food that is the morality.
Don't they eat pork in America?

china in space means destruction of our communications and GPS.
Hopefully the Galileo system will be ok. China is a partner.

Sheep are reputedly quite intelligent too, if you're serious about hating countries for their food preferences.

In my view, China isn't a threat, it's an opportunity. Think of the possibilities, if the Chinese get up to speed with first world standards. Think of the advances science will make, if the accumulated wealth in China translates into better educational facilities for more than one billion people. Imagine the fruits of a new space race, inspired by China's ambitions.

In the West we will have to meet China's competition. That's not something to fear, but rather to embrace. "Friendly" competition, in the matters of economy or science can propel both blocks upwards.

personaly,i think everyone should have to slaughter an animal for food,no gun,just a knife
in a fair fight.there would be alot more veggies around if they had too.

i also dont aprove of hunting with anything but sticks and rocks,or cave men weapons.

sniper rifles to killa herbivore is overkill to say the least.



but,still,fuck china and everything they stand for.

i know,you love PAYING china to give you mercury poisoning.

yep,you turbo smart,i wish i was as smart as you.

your probably the same retard that would trade freedoms for ''security''.


yep,your the smartest person ever.


dont get mad at people who poison you,yeah good plan.

lol....... are you drugs or something

there are hundreds of chinese supply ship entering america every day,each one could easily be filled with soldiers rather then walmart garbage.

Sure, if Walmart and their freight connections decide that letting China board their supply ships is the best thing for the company (which is honestly what they'll be thinking about). And since a large portion of Walmart's stores are in America, I doubt that would even cross their mind.

each ship could contain 100,000 soldiers,they could have there entire army here within days,and be mobilized before we even know about.

Since America is in the stone age and we don't have satellites, HUMINT, IMINT, and MASINT :rolleyes: .

its impotant to note that these troops would effectivly seal all ports to america and bombs dont work so good on your own soil.

Oh, so the American smart bombs are so smart that they automatically become impotent on American soil ? I'm sure your going to tell me next that the Pope is actually Muslim? Bombs are instruments used to achieve the objectives that it's owner has. I'm sure our government would have no problem at all with bombing the living daylights out of China en route to America, while landing in America, and during occupation of the coast.

this is also why i hate the french,they eat horses among other things. they may as well be cannibals.

Are you saying that the French are horses?


also,most people dont know this,but out entire military relies on GPS to operate,without all planes are grounded,and communications and troop movements are severly hindered.

china in space means destruction of our communications and GPS.

Unfortunately for you, I did know that. And all planes are not grounded, they simply are not as effective as if they had GPS. They can still do their job. So China managed, fourty years after America, to get into space! America has space superiority as of now, although Russia is much more of a threat in space than China can ever hope to be in then next decade.

personaly,i think everyone should have to slaughter an animal for food,no gun,just a knife
in a fair fight.there would be alot more veggies around if they had too.

i also dont aprove of hunting with anything but sticks and rocks,or cave men weapons.

sniper rifles to killa herbivore is overkill to say the least.

You know, I actually wouldn't mind that if our ecosystems wouldn't get thoroughly raped. And sniper rifles aren't used to shoot deer; hunting rifles are. Contrary to unpopular belief, there is a difference.

AmishRakeFight

after 1 week would have no food or gas,the heavily populated coasts would be destroyed and under chinese control,leaving a scattered resistance of rednex in the midwest,and since they will be cut off from supplies as well,they will have no means of even getting to the battle.

Heh, you underestimate your "rednex". You also underestimate our last line of defense. Those of any real use who will be standing up and fighting those Chinese, the ones with the guns and all, won't be hampered. People like them usually stockpile supplies for such an incident. They'd have plenty of food, water, gas, and munitions to survive and get into battle. Not to mention they use their weapons and train with them more often than the Chinese military would, heh. And those types of people far outnumer the 100,000 snuck-in soldiers in your example.

In a '94 DoJ survey, around 35% of American households own 192 million firearms. And hey, that ain't even counting all our gangs. As Wesley Snipes says in Rising Sun, "Rough neighbourhoods may be America's last advantage.". ;)

100,000 snuck-in Chinese soldiers is nothing unless they have equipment to aid in their assault such as jeeps, tanks, airpower, seapower, and whatnot. That equipment is what makes an army. Without that support, they're not very effective, especially on foreign ground. We'd be able to repel them quite easily. The only real casualties would be the anti-gun liberals, heh, and I say good riddance to them.

If you think Iraq's guerilla warfare is crazy, you wouldn't even be able to imagine what it'd be like here. We're no Iraq and hell, look how well Iraqi's are doing vs us, and we have aerial/tank/ship support too! We're a much superior army compared to the Chinese. And us Americans civilians have much more food, oil, munitions and whatnot than the Iraqi resistance does. Not to mention that once we rally against a cause, there's no stopping us.

personaly,i think everyone should have to slaughter an animal for food,no gun,just a knife
in a fair fight.there would be alot more veggies around if they had too.

i also dont aprove of hunting with anything but sticks and rocks,or cave men weapons.

sniper rifles to killa herbivore is overkill to say the least.

Sure, then let's remove the speed advantage of animals, their massive claws, their ungodly strong jaws and sharp teeth too. I mean hey, you want it to be completely even, no? Animals are built a way to help them kill better as are humans. Animals advantages are the above mentioned and ours are our brains. Our brains allow us to create and use tools. There's nothing remotely unfair about a human even using a tank to go hunting in. It's no different than a bear or lion slaughtering a much smaller, and basically defenseless animal.

- N

Heh, you underestimate your "rednex". You also underestimate our last line of defense. Those of any real use who will be standing up and fighting those Chinese, the ones with the guns and all, won't be hampered. People like them usually stockpile supplies for such an incident. They'd have plenty of food, water, gas, and munitions to survive and get into battle. Not to mention they use their weapons and train with them more often than the Chinese military would, heh. And those types of people far outnumer the 100,000 snuck-in soldiers in your example.

In a '94 DoJ survey, around 35% of American households own 192 million firearms. And hey, that ain't even counting all our gangs. As Wesley Snipes says in Rising Sun, "Rough neighbourhoods may be America's last advantage.". ;)

100,000 snuck-in Chinese soldiers is nothing unless they have equipment to aid in their assault such as jeeps, tanks, airpower, seapower, and whatnot. That equipment is what makes an army. Without that support, they're not very effective, especially on foreign ground. We'd be able to repel them quite easily. The only real casualties would be the anti-gun liberals, heh, and I say good riddance to them.

If you think Iraq's guerilla warfare is crazy, you wouldn't even be able to imagine what it'd be like here. We're no Iraq and hell, look how well Iraqi's are doing vs us, and we have aerial/tank/ship support too! We're a much superior army compared to the Chinese. And us Americans civilians have much more food, oil, munitions and whatnot than the Iraqi resistance does. Not to mention that once we rally against a cause, there's no stopping us.



Sure, then let's remove the speed advantage of animals, their massive claws, their ungodly strong jaws and sharp teeth too. I mean hey, you want it to be completely even, no? Animals are built a way to help them kill better as are humans. Animals advantages are the above mentioned and ours are our brains. Our brains allow us to create and use tools. There's nothing remotely unfair about a human even using a tank to go hunting in. It's no different than a bear or lion slaughtering a much smaller, and basically defenseless animal.

- N

Well put. Here in Texas, my whole city would fight. I'm not even kidding, every able bodied man would take up arms and go to war against the Chinese. Especially against the Chinese. I know this only strengthens stereotypes against the South, but so be it if we get to keep our country.

See you on the battlefield, brother. ;)

- N

Well put. Here in Texas, my whole city would fight. I'm not even kidding, every able bodied man would take up arms and go to war against the Chinese. Especially against the Chinese. I know this only strengthens stereotypes against the South, but so be it if we get to keep our country.

Whose country? America is evverrybody's country. It's the world port. It has no real unified culture or values. That is what makes America unique. That is about as hypocritical as an american living in china, becoming a chinese citizen and going so far to call himself chinese. I doubt that would happen. America is about progression and money in the most purest sense period. You 'rednex' who believe everyone here is working just for you and your values are deluded but more importantly assinine and selfish. Sometimes something brand new happens, tadahhh... america.

Whose country? America is evverrybody's country. It's the world port. It has no real unified culture or values. That is what makes America unique. That is about as hypocritical as an american living in china, becoming a chinese citizen and going so far to call himself chinese. I doubt that would happen. America is about progression and money in the most purest sense period. You 'rednex' who believe everyone here is working just for you and your values are deluded but more importantly assinine and selfish. Sometimes something brand new happens, tadahhh... america.

What?? I'm not even sure what your talking about. Of course America is everybody's country, but it's still America, not China, not Africa, not Europe. I merely said that my city would fight for America to not be militarily taken over by the Chinese. For that matter, it doesn't even have to be the Chinese. My point was that my brothers and sisters and I would fight for every inch of our country, "our" meaning Americans country. And I am in no way a redneck. Since you're new here, please review previous posts by members before labeling them rednecks or unintellegent or anything else. I think I've mentioned me living in the South twice in my entire SciForums membership.

AmishRakeFight

Well, you may not be but I have a cousin who was in both the american army and air force. He said the army is just a tad more tolerant but the air force just reaked of a nazi atmosphere, couldn't really put your finger on it, it is not what was said but not said. There was a fundamental ideal of america and it did not truly include him. I'm not criticizing just an observation. Time and progression may change this, the oldtimers die off etc.

I say let’s nuke everyone, hide away in a shelter for a decade or so and then come out to repopulate the world.

I mean I and 10 hot sciforum chicks…of course.
Oh…and Buddha1, to keep me entertained during those long nuclear winter nights.

Well put. Here in Texas, my whole city would fight. I'm not even kidding, every able bodied man would take up arms and go to war against the Chinese. Especially against the Chinese. I know this only strengthens stereotypes against the South, but so be it if we get to keep our country.

Even the chinese?

You know, I actually wouldn't mind that if our ecosystems wouldn't get thoroughly raped. And sniper rifles aren't used to shoot deer; hunting rifles are. Contrary to unpopular belief, there is a difference.

AmishRakeFight



sniper rifles generly use .308,some use 50cal[my favorite gun EVER],most ''hunting'' rifles actualy use 30-06,or remigton mag,or a generaly larger bullet then a modern sniper rifle[except the 50cal].

a gun with a scope that shoots bullets from a concealed location to bring down living animals from long range is a sniper rifle.





and china and russia are allies,and we dont currently have manned space flight,we have to ask the russians.

sniper rifles generly use .308,some use 50cal[my favorite gun EVER],most ''hunting'' rifles actualy use 30-06,or remigton mag,or a generaly larger bullet then a modern sniper rifle[except the 50cal].

a gun with a scope that shoots bullets from a concealed location to bring down living animals from long range is a sniper rifle.

Sniper rifles, in the military, are usually M82 .50 Barrett Rifles (less common but used for anti-armour), M40 rifles, and upgraded M24 rifles. Sniper rifles, in the police departments, are usually .280 rifles or 7MM Remington rifles. Hunting rifles vary depending on the prey; a 22 will take down a squirrel, and a .50 H&H will take down an elephant. Also, "sniper rifles" are not exactly what the public percieves them to be; a sniper rifle could be a .22, by definition, because a sniper rifle is basically just a rifle that a sniper uses. So no, a sniper rifle is not a scoped rifle; a scoped rifle is a scoped rifle.

and china and russia are allies,and we dont currently have manned space flight,we have to ask the russians.

Not to be picky, but can you provide a source for that? I brought this up in a coversation, but I couldn't provide adequete sources.

Even the chinese?

Touche'. Maybe, maybe not. It's their perogative whether to fight against their ancestory or to fight with their citizen country, although I would assume that most would fight for China.

AmishRakeFight

War with China is not going to become a reality anytime soon.

I say let’s nuke everyone, hide away in a shelter for a decade or so and then come out to repopulate the world.

I mean I and 10 hot sciforum chicks…of course.
Oh…and Buddha1, to keep me entertained during those long nuclear winter nights.

We all know you want Buddha1 there with you because you have an oppressed desire to have sex with men. Unless that's what you meant by "entertain". ;)

- N

http://www.local6.com/news/6681871/detail.html



oh yeah,we need more of these people,yeah,i hope they breed billions of these awsome smart people,oh wait....

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they eat dogs and cats,they pollute more then any other country in the history of the world, they have the WORST human rights record in modern histroy.



I say lets nuke china,no one will care,the world will be a better place,and its a war that would be popular among the informed peoples of the world.


god damn i HATE the chinese.

and we can draft the mexicans into service too,kill two birds with one stone.

no chinese atrocities and no more illegals ,sounds like a win win to me.


that might offend alot of people,


you would nuke a country and kill maybe a billion people (pop of china) just because of your racial hate for the chinese people,


you said alot of untrue things also, but you cant go around nuking everything you dont like, its not all the chinese to blaim for everything wrong in the world, there is BS like this happening everywhere in the world,


peace man,

wanting to kill 1.4 billion chinese for the reasons you stated is like a chinese person wanting to kill 300 million americans for going to war with iraq. not everyone is responsible for the things they are doing. in fact most of the population of china is below poverty level and has nothing to do with government decisions (being that china is communistic and a bit authoritarian). i would wager to guess that a lot of the people in china don't like what their government is doing either. most of the country is third-world.

another thing, the reason we are not going to war with china, nor will we anytime soon is because we are so dependant upon their exports. we are in a tight spot with them because we import so many of their products, but they are not as dependant on us. they have the upper hand, economically.

yeah surprising how quick some are to resort to violence...makes you wonder. cant fathom hating a country full of people :confused:

although i think china can be replaced as an importer quite easily if required.

http://www.local6.com/news/6681871/detail.html



oh yeah,we need more of these people,yeah,i hope they breed billions of these awsome smart people,oh wait....
oh, right and americans don't do anything stupid like that either :rolleyes:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5027776

"they eat dogs and cats,they pollute more then any other country in the history of the world, they have the WORST human rights record in modern histroy.

I say lets nuke china,no one will care,the world will be a better place,and its a war that would be popular among the informed peoples of the world.


god damn i HATE the chinese.

and we can draft the mexicans into service too,kill two birds with one stone.

no chinese atrocities and no more illegals ,sounds like a win win to me"

You must be daydreaming. China have enough nukes to destroy the world couple of times. How can we ever afford to fight a war with China without getting ourselves destroyed in the process? Not to mention that China has been buying our national debt for many years by now. We owe China $3 trillions. Destroying China means destroying our economy.

Posted by SubZerofusion:
China have enough nukes to destroy the world couple of times.

Not yet. They have about 500 total weapons, but only about 170 are ballistics, and the ranges vary. So they could only do a pretty good job right now.

How can we ever afford to fight a war with China without getting ourselves destroyed in the process?

America better worry more about the huge trade deficit and equalling trading terms.

Not to mention that China has been buying our national debt for many years by now.

True

We owe China $3 trillions.

The U.S. has 8.1 trillion in debt. 3.1 trillion of that is to Social Security,pensions, and Trust funds.

4.1 billion of debt is what the U.S. has borrowed. 2.2 is in treasury notes and T-bonds. Japan is owed about 1.2 billion. China, thus far, is owed about 323 billion by 2005, but that amount is rising. Better check facts, and not just make up numbers out of your head.

In reality, American debt is less burdensome than made out. Debt is compared to a nations GDP. As a GDP grows, so will a nations debt. The United States debt to in GDP has not grown much, and can be kept under control by cutting spending fairly easily. The United States debt, by world averages, is actually right in the middle. Japan, as an example, has one of the worst with debt equalling 165% of their GDP. Debt to GDP is actually better than under the first Bush (66%) than today (64%). The United States was at its worst in 1946 when it spiked to 124%.

Not yet. They have about 500 total weapons, but only about 170 are ballistics, and the ranges vary. So they could only do a pretty good job right now.



America better worry more about the huge trade deficit and equalling trading terms.



True



The U.S. has 8.1 trillion in debt. 3.1 trillion of that is to Social Security,pensions, and Trust funds.

4.1 billion of debt is what the U.S. has borrowed. 2.2 is in treasury notes and T-bonds. Japan is owed about 1.2 billion. China, thus far, is owed about 323 billion by 2005, but that amount is rising. Better check facts, and not just make up numbers out of your head.

In reality, American debt is less burdensome than made out. Debt is compared to a nations GDP. As a GDP grows, so will a nations debt. The United States debt to in GDP has not grown much, and can be kept under control by cutting spending fairly easily. The United States debt, by world averages, is actually right in the middle. Japan, as an example, has one of the worst with debt equalling 165% of their GDP. Debt to GDP is actually better than under the first Bush (66%) than today (64%). The United States was at its worst in 1946 when it spiked to 124%.

Your figures are very outdated. China has 8,000 nukes right now at the lowest estimate, and they have thousands and thousands of ICBMs. Don't believe those figures you saw online. They are very outdated. China can genocide any race they like. They can flatten the whole Europe in a matter of days. Each year China produces at least 1000 nukes secretly and buys at least $350 billions of USA national debts. Last year they bought $350 billions. They have been doing this for so many years. So if you add up the numbers they have been buying, by now it should be even more than $3 trillions. If China stop buying our national debts, our economy will be in big trouble. Millions and millions will lose their jobs, and millions and millions of people will not be able to buy houses, cars, etc.... Most likely China will own us in the future. Our children will become slaves to them, because our politicans are borrowing money at an alarming rate against our children's future, and spending all those money on fighting wars, poverty, etc... not investing these money on our children's future. Our national debt is $8 trillions. Only the national debt interest alone eat away 6% of our GDP each year, while our
economy only grew 3.5% last year. It takes no brainer we are in mass deficit. Also China produces millions and millions of scientists each year, while we only graduate only thousands. How are we and our future generation are going to compete against China when they produce millions and millions of scientists each year? Soon or later good old USA will die just like Rome. Maybe our country survives another 100 years. That is it. Hopefully, I won't live long enough to see the great nation of ours collapse.

Get a grip. China is pollution more than any other world right now. But what was America, England, France, Russia, or any country doing when they undergo industrial revolution? All countries will polute at one point. But do you know who's REALLY polluting? It is American companies with factories in China that are polluting. If anything, these companies should be nuked.

Just judging by your first racist post Mars13, you know absolutely nothing about:
Military
Science
Solcial Issues
World Politics

and that's just to name a few.

What's wrong with eating dogs? The dogs Chinese eat are domestically bred for eating. So do Koreans. Different cultures has different heritage. Americans eat the biggest artery clogger in the world EVERY day. (MacDonalds). I'm not saying anything bad about America. But before you starting pointing your stubbly fingers and start blaming, think about yourself. If anything, warmongers like you should be rounded up and killed.

Originally posted by SubZerofusion:
Your figures are very outdated

They are from 2005.

China has 8,000 nukes right now at the lowest estimate, and they have thousands and thousands of ICBMs.

So all intelligence that has been stated must be wrong. Somehow China has found not only countless funds to create such an arsenal, but has the most spectacular ability to camouflage that arsenal in the history of mankind. Why trust verifiable sources when we can believe the random thoughts that come out of your head.

Each year China produces at least 1000 nukes secretly and buys at least $350 billions of USA national debts. Last year they bought $350 billions. They have been doing this for so many years. So if you add up the numbers they have been buying, by now it should be even more than $3 trillions.

Were is China getting all of this money? Its entire GDP for last year was around 1.7 trillion, sixth largest in the world. Yet somehow it funds the largest economy in the world with a vast supply of money? I mean, it would even be an insane investment by China if it had that money, since the American money would most certainlybe on the verge of collapse if this was indeed true. Again, stop making up numbers out of your head.

If China stop buying our national debts, our economy will be in big trouble. Millions and millions will lose their jobs, and millions and millions of people will not be able to buy houses, cars, etc

Actually, the United States supplies millions of jobs to China by buying their cheap goods. If China and Japan stopped funding the dollar, it might actually go down to a level that is realistic and make American products cheaper.

Only the national debt interest alone eat away 6% of our GDP each year, while our
economy only grew 3.5% last year.

This shows your complete lack of understanding of logic. What is the relationship between these two percentages? 6% is actually to low, and 7%, the actual figure, is not at all high. Historically, this is a healthy percentage. The U.S. has no problem paying for the debts if the economy keeps growing. The interest did not increase by 6%, it is at 6%. It would only make sense to compare the two if there was a corresponding increase of interest per GDP as compared to economic growth. You make no sense.

How are we and our future generation are going to compete against China when they produce millions and millions of scientists each year?

Wow, thats alot of scientists. Especially considering only two million Chinese graduate from college per year. They must all be scientists. The United States will graduate 2.5 million. China has almost 5 times the U.S. population. You do the math. The vast majority of the Chinese population is dirt poor. The fact that China graduates a higher percentage of science majors, means nothing, other than the type of country they live in. There are not as many hard science graduates in the United States since there are only so many jobs in these fields. A nation only needs so many science degrees.

Maybe our country survives another 100 years. That is it.

Since we must believe the made up numbers you provide with no verification, I guess we must believe this as well.

Apparently you have missed the whole point of debate. Proving your argument with facts. Your posts will sciforums hopefully will be small in number.

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they eat dogs and cats,they pollute more then any other country in the history of the world, they have the WORST human rights record in modern histroy.



I say lets nuke china,no one will care,the world will be a better place,and its a war that would be popular among the informed peoples of the world.


god damn i HATE the chinese.

and we can draft the mexicans into service too,kill two birds with one stone.

no chinese atrocities and no more illegals ,sounds like a win win to me.
Then look in your closet and on the back of your electronic equipment and throw everything out that's made in China. I dare you.

It's time to sort China out - I mean they're going to be the ones that end up shagging the planet proper. Look at the drain on the earth's resources all those slitty-eyed little chinks are causing. Fuck 'em. Fuck 'em all.

Pollution - jeez - have you seen the shit about the Olympics in '08? All our athletes should be in aclimatisation training - spending six hours a day inhaling exhaust fumes direct from a tractor or something to get them ready for it.

Toys - fucking hell - the slitty-eyed little fucking retards are poisoning our kids as well as their own. Fuckers.

Food - it's okay if the little greasy black-haired bastards kill themselves by eating noodles laced with dioxins but please keep that fucking chimp shit food over there will you?!

Metal - thanks to these chinese bastards going around the world buying up metal reserves the local crims in my town have started going around stealing road signs because of the price of aluminium going through the roof. Thank you China.

It's time to sort China out - I mean they're going to be the ones that end up shagging the planet proper. Look at the drain on the earth's resources all those slitty-eyed little chinks are causing. Fuck 'em. Fuck 'em all.

Pollution - jeez - have you seen the shit about the Olympics in '08? All our athletes should be in aclimatisation training - spending six hours a day inhaling exhaust fumes direct from a tractor or something to get them ready for it.

Toys - fucking hell - the slitty-eyed little fucking retards are poisoning our kids as well as their own. Fuckers.

Food - it's okay if the little greasy black-haired bastards kill themselves by eating noodles laced with dioxins but please keep that fucking chimp shit food over there will you?!

Metal - thanks to these chinese bastards going around the world buying up metal reserves the local crims in my town have started going around stealing road signs because of the price of aluminium going through the roof. Thank you China.

The propaganda is purposely racist toward china because it's known they are a competitor. That's the sole reason. The food scare is bullshit and china's food industry is not that bad and it's safer than a lot of other countries that's not mentioned because they are not on the radar. With the huge amount of production they do, it's understandable their would be some mistakes and unscrupulous people.

Your excuses hide the real reason and it's very simple. Hatred and mostly ego as you have so obviously demonstrated.

Chimp shit??? Are you trying to make me laugh? Asian cuisine is superior to western cuisine because hands down and higher in antioxidants and I will add the fact it's more sophisticated too.

I'm sure they are happy to be called a chimp than be a pink cow bastard anyday that reeks of rancid beef. LOl. It's perspective asshole and everybody's got one and anybody can spin a negative portrayal and be nasty and insulting.

As for greasy and other things you've dreamed up in your imagination, don't make me turn the tables on you and traumatize the shit out of you with the truth. You've been dishing out insults of other races way too fucking long and not getting any in return. That's unfair to you and I'm here to correct that imbalance. Asians sweat the least, have less body odor, body hair and have dry ear wax. Almost 97 percent of africans, whites, middle-easterners and everybody fucking else has wet, sweat more, stink more, and are greasy.

White people are GREASIER than asians. So your dirty projections are from your own dirty mind. I can't wait until the world gets balanced. Unlike you, I want to see the whole world and other countries succeed because balances of power rather than just one is a trend that will make a better world and a more evolved one.

What a pathetic, degenerate sniveling whiner showing your nasty, corrupt disposition spewing from a moral soapbox. Anymore crusades when things don't go your way??

Is that Satyr(wanderer)?

Um.. you should do a better job at hiding your double standard because it's obvious, didn't ya know??

So it's okay when you shag the planet but it's not okay when someone else does. You are the type of person who HATES competition and think something is your right and things should always go your way. You also make excuses for your faults of the past as well but not for others when you've learned from your mistakes and china will also have to deal with the environmental issues. This is a patheticly devious but conscious mindgame to justify your attack on someone else to stop them from going further or gaining power PERIOD. That's so immature of your type I have to say it's almost toddlerish and self-centered, the type of selfishness I have noticed more in white racists than any other type. I'm insulting you idiot with the embarassing facts no one has pointed out about YOUR character.

I know your kind and most racists of the ********** variety are like cookie-cutter cutouts they are so predictable like a breed.

Maybe we should nuke USA, they pollute and there are some really sick people living there

Maybe we should nuke Israel, they steal land and kill innocence

Maybe we should nuke Syria, where although they support liberation groups these groups are attacking innocence and defying Syrian rule.

There are good and bad in every country. The innocent do not deserve to die.

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they eat dogs and cats,they pollute more then any other country in the history of the world, they have the WORST human rights record in modern histroy.



I say lets nuke china,no one will care,the world will be a better place,and its a war that would be popular among the informed peoples of the world.


god damn i HATE the chinese.


America buys most of the stuff China makes so America is the country that should stop buying from them if they want less pollution. What a person eats is all relitive depending on where you are and what other foods you have available.

America buys most of the stuff China makes so America is the country that should stop buying from them if they want less pollution. What a person eats is all relitive depending on where you are and what other foods you have available.

I like these type of posts because it just confirms what I already knew. It's amazing how self-centered and blind you have to be to believe you have the right to nuke other countries but give lenience to yourself.

He talks about human rights violations and morality and he wants to nuke people. LMFAO.

There was a study done where it showed of all people tested whites had the hardest time putting themselves in another person's shoes and asians were the best at seeing things from another's point of view besides themselves, they had a more balanced view of things. Surprising results to others but not to me because I knew that for years. LMFAO. :blbl: