The funiest quote i heard this week was by a mr roman abromawich ,for those who don't know he is a russian oil shiek, baron or whatever and we're talking billions. Quote "When you're nieghbours cow dies nothing can give you more pleasure" My point or question is as i am trying to clamber out of the ditch of debt and up the mountain of money can this be done by fair means both morally and practically.Does anyone know of a decent honest seriously wealthy man/woman who's made it from shear hard work?
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Does anyone know of a decent honest seriously wealthy man/woman who's made it from shear hard work? Define "it" in monatary terms. Is "it" being worth $1,000,000 in assets? or having $1,000,000 in liquid assets? Is "it" earning a decent wage to be comfortable, and debt free? is "it" starting up a successful business which is generating net revenue? anyways: 1) Richard Branson? 2) Stelios Hadji (founder of easyjet)? 3) Bill Gates? I know #3 may cause some to gasp, but BG has been ruthless within the context of driving his company to success, an obligation of someone in his position. Has he really acted "Immoraly"?
i suppose i'm just looking for reafirmation that good people do sometimes win.the three men you mentioned probably come to everyone's mind and they do seem decent people but i still think it's more the exception rather than the rule. ahh well i'll just keep plugging away and i'm sure the break will come, that or find 65000 sheep to slaughter?. i think i'll leave it there cos i don't want to argue with wraith as richard branson has got this cuddlely hippy trust him with your daughter kind of image and wraith mmm.....has'nt ,no offense you may be the kindest person in the world but until you know somone you can only go on the image you're presented with(that's that scary logo and your very to the point remarks) and that's why i remarked anyone you know as in personally as the only people who can say RB has not trod on anyone is someone close.
jos, off course the nice guys win. I know many people who have set their own businesses up, and succeeded, and who are very decent people. Being decent isn't mutally exclusive of being savvy, being ruthless, being assertive etc all of which are qualities one must posses if one wants to make a success of it, but above all you need sheer perseverance, relentless determination coupled with ruthless focus on your aims. good luck.
morality vs. business........ in our dear capitalist society, the goal of every non not-for-profit business is to maximize profits. not to help mankind but to make money. morals are seen as obstacles to that goal. there are end-point ethics and rule-ethics in business end-point ethics are not ethical at all. 'the end justifies the means' approach. sure, i'm gonna kill some people with my product if i don't add this expensive part in....but i dont wanna add it in cause it'd be against the goal of the company - to maximize profits so you go with rule-ethics...which will get you to heaven, but make you bankrupt either way, you can't make everyone happy. someone always ends up getting hurt, no matter which decision you make. if it's "nobody" then it's probably you. if someone's really rich, it's either by lottery, inheritance, or earning it... and if you earn it, you must have a few things you've done in the past that you're not proud of... that's just the nature of capitalism
True, but there are certain bussinesses which do (or did) care more about principles and people. Japanese coroporations as the best example. I know it isn't like that anymore...but there are still a few companies that care. The problem is that people demand cheaper, better products. And they don't care how they get them. It's like the attitude of the northern colonies to the southern in terms of slave labour. If the government tries to change anything, they'll face external pressure and the threat of being voted out.
people demand cheaper, better products. And they don't care how they get them. that's the force of competition.....which is supposed to be a 'good' thing because it forces companies to work work work to produce better, cheaper stuff
