everyone knows bullying without just cause is evil and unfair torment, but what about with just cause? is there ever any just cause for the single humiliation of one person in revenge?
what if someone has done something wrong, are they simply paying the price or is there never an excuse for bullying?

personally i think there is never an excuse for bullying, if someone has done something wrong it is up to the other person not to retaliate especially not by bullying them

am i the only person that thinks this?

Bullying is often a term that we apply erroneously ...and it causes some difficulty in discussing it or doing anything about it.

Is teasing bullying? If someone combs his/her hair "funny", is teasing them about it bullying?

If someone gets perfect grades in school all the time, is it bullying for the other kids to tease him/her and call 'em silly childish names?

Bullying? What is it? And how do you know that it's bullying instead of good-natured teasing? And what do you do about it?

At some point in their lives, people must learn to stand up for themselves ...in the same way that others must learn to take responsiblity for their teasing or their actions. How do kids learn those tough lessons? And if they don't learn it in schools, who's gonna' protect 'em out in the real world? Their boss??

Baron Max

Telling the truth in and of it's self is not bullying but anything carried to the extreme becomes a vice even telling the truth if it is used solely to humiliate.

You are utterly and completely wrong, yes.

The only way - the ONLY way - to deal with bullies it to publically humiliate them through grave and serious injury. The school yard is essentially a tribal community. A bully is shamed and impotent once humiliated. He cannot be a bully as the social system no longer works for him. Respect is everything.

Deliberately trying to cause someone hurt is bullying in my eyes.

Making fun of your friends is meant to be just that - fun. If they turn up to school with a quiff they've dyed green, then it's rude not to make fun of them.

It's healthy to be able to make fun of yourself and not take yourself too seriously.

Telling the truth in and of it's self is not bullying but anything carried to the extreme becomes a vice even telling the truth if it is used solely to humiliate.

Seeing that I wonder what is going on, what exactly this bullying consists of.

If the present proposition is to affect indifference, you could be on exactly the right track.

Never mind the welfare of the bully. It is my hunch that the attitude of that attracts the animosity to start with.

Look for the lesson to help to fix what is wrong with yourself, whatever it is that hurts, and let the rest take care of themselves, for 99 times in every 100 whatever attracted the bully will be easier for you to fix for yourself than it will be for you to fix the bully.

everyone knows bullying without just cause is evil and unfair torment, but what about with just cause? is there ever any just cause for the single humiliation of one person in revenge?
what if someone has done something wrong, are they simply paying the price or is there never an excuse for bullying?


IF someone bullies others they open themselves up to being bullied themselves.

but im not talking about that i mean if someone is NOT bullying but has done something wrong eg: cheated on a friend with their partner, is that just cause to bully them or is there never any reason for the humiliation and hurt of someone else (bullying)

..., is that just cause to bully them or is there never any reason for the humiliation and hurt of someone else (bullying)

Any of us can justify most anything that we do or want to do.

"Just cause"? That's whatever we feel or think it is ....not what everyone else thinks it is. You might not think there's "just cause", but that doesn't mean that it isn't a "just cause" for someone else.

Baron Max

Yes, you can bully others for valid, revenge-based reasons, and be within a moral level.

but im not talking about that i mean if someone is NOT bullying but has done something wrong eg: cheated on a friend with their partner, is that just cause to bully them or is there never any reason for the humiliation and hurt of someone else (bullying)

"if" is not a just cause for anything.

"if" is not a just cause for anything.

Well, since you seem to know a lot about "just cause", perhaps you can explain it to us all?

And the first thing is perhaps explaining how something can be called a "just cause" without everyone on Earth agreeing to it. I.e., if not everyone agrees, then someone is claiming that it's NOT a "just cause". What then?

Baron Max

The point is simply that according to the usual use of "just cause", proof is required.

The point is simply that according to the usual use of "just cause", proof is required.

Acceptable by everyone on the planet? And if it's not, what then? How can anything be called "just cause", even if someone thinks there's proof, without everyone agreeing to it??

Baron Max

Acceptable by everyone on the planet?

If it helps to relieve the anxiety, as one part at least of the six and half billion of us, Mr Max, heartlessromantic, and whoever else, there is no need to worry so much on my behalf.