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I have whats probably a very crude theory open to everybodies comments, but here goes...
The earth is a sphere, it is in layers like an onion.
It's atmosphere, acting like the skin of a balloon say, which holds in the gas between itself and the earths crust.
Below the crust we have several other layers which get hotter as you go.
There we go, an onion.
Anyway, this big onion could be getting a bit hot under the collar as a certain asswipe virus-like collective body "us" is sucking a black liquid from under it's skin. This is then displaced into the gas layer.
This process is now leaving gaping holes under the skin and must be creating a hell of a vacuum under the surface???
What now happens is, the moved liquid is now turned into gas and is trapped between the crust skin and the atmosphere creating a higher pressure within that zone.
So are we producing a high gas pressure pushing against a vacuum? with only a crust holding it up?
Move elements at these quantities to different skin levels to produce a pressure against a vacuum...somthing has to give.
that is so no your idea...the onion analogy to earth has been used by geologists so many times.
And regarding pressure...mass is the same as it was...and Pressure is created either ( or in combination) by more mass in same or less volume, or higher temperature...none of this is changing since people/asswipe virus-like collective body are not changing it, plus I am pritty sure soil collapses inside the volume where this black liqued/oil (am I right? you are talking of oil here?) once that oil is replaced up. Now this is probably the case in Iraq, Saudi Arabia, and such countries, because this pressure actually pushes the oil outwards up to the surface, however I believe that in case of Russia, the oil has to be pumped up the surface, thus it might be that in some part the soil does not collapse, leaving some close to vacuum spaces in the ground.
protostar 02-10-06, 05:59 PM I like that theory. What if another gas was introduced to the mix
through compression? heh. If you think of how the ocean
floor continually spreads and cracks open and hydro thermal vents
spew the water,magma,rocks etc.. up and the area widens. heh.
Since the core temp is 7000 degrees could it continually rise?
If it rises, there will be buldges in the crust, Earthquakes,Volcano's
and every other disaster you can think of. Scary to think there is
only 1800 miles between it and us. (thickness of the earths crust)
Kind of reminds me of the movie "The Core"
ok great, a vacuum is not being produced, theory broken.
And btw, I couldn't give a shite if me calling the world an onion has been used before by somebody else.
most oil reserves are not "lakes" but held between the particles of rocks. thus not big spaces are made when it is extracted. it is probably the gas pressure above the reserve that pushes the oil out to the surface. deposits with little/no gas need to be pumped. iirc.
ok great, a vacuum is not being produced, theory broken.
And btw, I couldn't give a shite if me calling the world an onion has been used before by somebody else.
hey no need to get rude, all you had to say was, "I proved my theory wrong, thank you everyone for helping me in this endeavor, and on behalf of the earth is like the onion analogy, I had no recollection that someone before me used this idea"
No sir. By saying " that is so no your idea " is rude.
Hey man chill. Sorry for saying its not your idea.
Ophiolite 02-12-06, 09:43 AM Settle down children.
In the case of the Ekofisk field in Norway - the first major oil field discovered in the North Sea - subsidence of the sea bed over the first twenty years of production was several metres, as a direct consequece of the oil removed, which permitted further compaction of the reservoir rock.
So are you saying the compaction has created a more structurally sound base?
And Dragon no worries.
Ophiolite 02-12-06, 02:58 PM So are you saying the compaction has created a more structurally sound base?
.What do you mean by a structurally sound base? The reservoir is several thousand feet below the sea floor, so I am at a loss to see what you are actually asking.
What I am saying is that with the oil removed the overburden load of sediments can no longer be supported and so compaction occurs. The porosity of the rock is reduced. The portion of the overburden oringally supported by the oil is now supported by the matrix (in the engineering, not the geological sense) of the rock.
river-wind 02-13-06, 09:18 AM for a long time, waste products from oil pumping (acids, etc) were dumped into open-air pools, and did some real damage to the surrounding environment.
They aren't commonly used today, but not because oil companies felt bad for the dead plants and animals - but because the material is now pumped back into the ground in order to maintain the pressure of the oil deposite, and thus allow for more efficient extraction of valuable material.
vaccum pockets were not created, but areas of nuteral pressure where there was nothing forcing the oil up the pipes - and in such areas the weight of the surface rock does often result in partial collapse.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Peigneur
Below the crust we have several other layers which get hotter as you go.
There we go, an onion.
I'm pretty sure the earths core is cooler than the mantle (pv=nrt). It is under much higher pressure as it is solid.
spidergoat 02-13-06, 11:40 AM Pumping oil out of the ground does NOT cause a vacuum, if it did, pumping would not be possible. What occurs is that as the oil stops coming out under it's own pressure, seawater is pumped in in incredible quantities.
Also, increasing gasses in the atmosphere does not increase the pressure, since the atmosphere is not contained in a vessel, and no new gas is produced, since burning fuel uses up oxygen from the atmosphere.
Ophiolite 02-14-06, 02:00 AM Pumping oil out of the ground does NOT cause a vacuum, if it did, pumping would not be possible. What occurs is that as the oil stops coming out under it's own pressure, seawater is pumped in in incredible quantities.
Point 1: You can also use gas, which is possibly the more common practice.
Point 2: The pressures are not especially incredible. Normal pore pressure gradient ranges between 0.433 psi/ft and 0.465 psi/ft, so that a 10,000 foot true vertical depth the pressure will be no more than 4650 psi. [In abnormally pressured reservoirs pore pressure may approach overburden pressure, which would be around 10,000 psi in this example.] In the case of pumping water into the base of a partially depleted reservoir we already have the hydrostatic of the water column to help us. We do not need to pump with anything more than the pressure required to overcome frictional losses.
I'm pretty sure the earths core is cooler than the mantle (pv=nrt). It is under much higher pressure as it is solid. The last time I looked solids and liquids (the outer core) tended not to adhere to the Ideal Gas Law. So, no, you are quite wrong. The core is hotter than the mantle.
my crude theory is well and truly squashed...ah, thrown from the highest peak to the lowest depth, to lay and never to be wanted.
my crude theory is well and truly squashed...ah, thrown from the highest peak to the lowest depth, to lay and never to be wanted.
Thats what the Sf is for...
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