A British military spokesman in Basra confirmed that "two U.K. military personnel" had been detained early on Monday "in a shooting incident" and that troops had used an armored fighting vehicle "to gain entry" to the police station to release them. He said that more than one vehicle had been in the area and that the police inside the station had refused to obey orders from the Interior Ministry to release the men.

these terrorists, cleverly disguised as arabs started killing cops
whats next? kill iraqi judges?
i thought the goal was to rebuild a civic society?
hehe

whats up with that?

wooohooo!
anarchy in iraq!

Fucking brits again. These fuckers are the root cause of every problem in the world.


The official said two unknown gunmen in full Arabic dress began firing on civilians in central Basra, wounding several, including a traffic police officer. There were no fatalities, the official said.

The two gunmen fled the scene but were captured and taken in for questioning, admitting they were British marines carrying out a "special security task," the official said.

They are the real terrorist, they kill some shiaas and then some sunnis and blame it all on insurgents. SHAME!! SHAME!!

Fucking brits again. These fuckers are the root cause of every problem in the world.


The official said two unknown gunmen in full Arabic dress began firing on civilians in central Basra, wounding several, including a traffic police officer. There were no fatalities, the official said.

The two gunmen fled the scene but were captured and taken in for questioning, admitting they were British marines carrying out a "special security task," the official said.

They are the real terrorist, they kill some shiaas and then some sunnis and blame it all on insurgents. SHAME!! SHAME!!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4262336.stm

UK soldiers 'storm' Basra prison



Some soldiers were forced to flee after their tanks caught fire

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British forces have rescued two UK servicemen who were arrested by Iraqi police in the southern city of Basra.

Official Iraqi sources say British tanks stormed the city's jail in what Basra governor Mohammed al-Waili called a "barbaric act of aggression".

The Ministry of Defence said the release of the men was negotiated.

The arrests sparked unrest in which UK tanks came under attack. Reports claimed two Iraqi civilians were killed and three soldiers injured.

'Daring rescue'

The two men - thought to be British servicemen working undercover - were accused of opening fire on local police.

MoD officials said the men were being handed over to the British when local militants intervened and attempted to snatch them.


We remain committed to helping the Iraqi government



Defence Secretary
John Reid



What effect will unrest have?


Soldiers forming a cordon around the police station became involved, and a wall was demolished by a British tank as they struggled to "collect" the men, the MoD said.

However, sources in the Iraqi Interior Ministry said six tanks were used to smash down the wall in a daring rescue operation of the two men, who are accused of firing at local police.

Witnesses told the Associated Press around 150 prisoners escaped during the operation but Iraqi officials denied any prisoners had escaped.

Flaming tanks

Earlier, two British tanks, sent to the police station where the soldiers were being held, were set alight in clashes.


Crowds of angry protesters hurled petrol bombs and stones, injuring three servicemen and several civilians.

TV pictures showed soldiers in combat gear clambering from one of the flaming tanks and making their escape.


British officials would not say if the two men were working undercover


In a statement, Defence Secretary John Reid said the soldiers who fled from the tanks were being treated for minor injuries.

Mr Reid added that he was not certain what had caused the disturbances.

"We remain committed to helping the Iraqi government for as long as they judge that a coalition presence is necessary to provide security," the statement said.

Tensions have been running high in the city since the arrest of a senior figure in the Shia Mehdi Army by UK troops.

But Colonel Tim Collins, the former commander of British troops in Iraq, described the Basra unrest as like a "busy night in Belfast".

Col Collins said it did not represent a breakdown of law and order in Basra, which was still a safer city than Baghdad.
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Yes those brits, we dont bullshit, we get the job done, basra has been the most peaceful place in iraq, and i would take the word of the Ministry of defence, rather than iraqi Shias, who like the sunnis are just as evil, and full of lies,
now if we were talking about american troops here, my thoughts would be dubious on the truth, especially after the italian serviceman was shot at a roadblock a couple of months ago, even though he had informed the americans he was coming through, they shot his car to pieces. then they all denied contact with the italian.

Skywalker there was more brits, killed in friendly fire, in the 1st gulf war, than through any combat in iraq.
The americans famous for this, dropped there bombs on uk soldiers, quickly to avoid being hit by anti-aircraft fire, american pilots are notorious for this in vietnam, and iraq, and yugoslavia, probably the reason they hit the chinese embassy, not the old map crap, up to date satelitte images is what they go by, not old *ucking maps, the brits identify there targets, then drop our bombs, we dont drop them on friendly troops, just so we can avoid anti-aircraft fire. The brits have balls, not bullshit.

Skywalker the brits are notorious, for ending hostage situations quickly, hence the iraq jail issue, and the iran embassy siege in the uk, perfect sucess, unlike the balls up in iran, when america tried to free american hostages in there american embassy in iran.

Skywalker we get the job done, we dont bull shit, most the dumb ass, things done in iraq, is by american soldiers, not british ones, like sticking the us flag over, the saddam hussain statue, that went down well in the muslim world, we looked on in disbelief in the uk at this.

Skywalker your a american, a george bush fan according to you, which sums up your state of mind to me!!!!!!!!!!!!

Or it could be our governments way, of getting the hell out of iraq, there are massive wars going on in iraq, between sunnis and shias, we do not need to be in the middle of it, and i hope the uk, has learned to stay out of muslim countries, our religons do not mix, nor do our cultures, if you need to fight muslim countries, long range bombings is a better idea, than putting troops on the ground.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4262336.stm

UK soldiers 'freed from militia'



Some soldiers were forced to flee after their tanks caught fire

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Two British soldiers freed after tanks broke into a Basra prison were being held by Shia militiamen, the Ministry of Defence said.

The MoD said the men had been found at a nearby house after troops broke into the city's prison to look for them.


An MoD spokesman said: "Two British soldiers were detained and taken to an Iraqi police station. We then started negotiating with the Iraqi authorities for their release.

"We understand that the authorities ordered their release. Unfortunately they weren't released and we became concerned for their safety and as a result a Warrior infantry fighting vehicle broke down the perimeter wall in one place.


We remain committed to helping the Iraqi government



Defence Secretary John Reid



What effect will unrest have?

"Our guys went in there and searched it from top to bottom in order to go and recover our two soldiers who had been detained.

"They weren't there unfortunately but we did obtain intelligence that pointed to where they were. We then launched another operation to recover them, from a house in Basra."

Mr al-Waili said more than 10 tanks and helicopters were used in the operation at the jail.
***********

It seems the iraqi police, handed the brits over to shia militia, no doubt to parade them tortured, in front of tv cameras, with guns to there heads, telling tony blair to get out of iraq.

The truth is out there if you look for it, if you listen to bullshit and lies, you will never find it.

Well, I'm not with vincent28uk on this one, but I am still in full support of whatever the british forces did.

ok the 2 guys who got arrested were most likely SAS, when they were confronted by police they apparantly shot at them, not civilians, they should've been handed to international forces not local police. the cops then sent them away to a home of some insurent nutcases so the troops most likely knocked down the wall as a diversion because they were actually freed from the house where they would've no doubt been executed.
quite frankly i'm amazed they didn't shoot the bastards trying to set them on fire!!! the iraqis were acting outside the law not tjhe british.

the iraqis were acting outside the law not tjhe british.


Law? What law? There's no law in Basra or Baghdad or Samarra or anywhere else. Law is what you have in a stable state, and what we have here is Mad Max. The Brits did what they had to do - the Iraqis did what they had to do - it's all just a massive fuckup.

Law? What law? There's no law in Basra or Baghdad or Samarra or anywhere else. Law is what you have in a stable state, and what we have here is Mad Max. The Brits did what they had to do - the Iraqis did what they had to do - it's all just a massive fuckup.

I have to agree, its one big mother of all times fuck up, its time to pack up now, the insurgency will never stop, because bin ladens wants us there, he does not want us to leave, he is making fools of us.

its time to take the troops back to disneyland, and madame tussauds, and dust them off when we need them again,
until then by presedential decree its time to stand down on mission cluster fuck.

Skywalker!! your a wanker and full of shit.

Skywalker!! your a wanker and full of shit.
seconded, motion passed.

let me repeat for you MORONS and mentally Handicap birtish thugs. Birtish marines were terrorists, it can't be any simple than that.


The official said two unknown gunmen in full Arabic dress began firing on civilians in central Basra, wounding several, including a traffic police officer. There were no fatalities, the official said.

The two gunmen fled the scene but were captured and taken in for questioning, admitting they were British marines carrying out a "special security task," the official said.
.

The official said two unknown gunmen in full Arabic dress began firing on civilians in central Basra, wounding several, including a traffic police officer. There were no fatalities, the official said.

.[/SIZE]
Considering militia make up 75% of iraqi security forces, what did you expect to here from him country bumpkin, the alternative to ignore the situation, would be to let the uk soldiers, be beaten and dragged infront of tv cameras by militia, to spout some gunpoint script, about how nasty the west is. Besides which it is the iranians, are behind all this, they are in a nuclear stand of with the nazis,france, and the uk, so they are slapping the brits here, by telling there shiaa friends in basra to start riots there.

Let me repeat again for you thick fucking head.


The official said two unknown gunmen in full Arabic dress began firing on civilians in central Basra, wounding several, including a traffic police officer. There were no fatalities, the official said.

The two gunmen fled the scene but were captured and taken in for questioning, admitting they were British marines carrying out a "special security task," the official said.
.

Why were they shooting at Civilians idiot.

Let me repeat again for you thick fucking head.


The official said two unknown gunmen in full Arabic dress began firing on civilians in central Basra, wounding several, including a traffic police officer. There were no fatalities, the official said.

The two gunmen fled the scene but were captured and taken in for questioning, admitting they were British marines carrying out a "special security task," the official said.
.

Why were they shooting at Civilians idiot.


Let me repeat for you, country bumpkin, iraqi officials who are 75% infitrated by militia, said what a pack of lies.

Let me tell you something, about britain, you seem to know nothing, about what we say is the truth, when you tell lies in the uk, you are shown the door, in government jobs, unlike America were clinton, lied about his affair with monica, infront of a worldwide audience, and still kept his job as president, in britain he would have been, out of job in a week.

Let me repeat for you, country bumpkin, iraqi officials who are 75% infitrated by militia, said what a pack of lies.

Let me tell you something, about britain, you seem to know nothing, about what we say is the truth, when you tell lies in the uk, you are shown the door, in government jobs, unlike America were clinton, lied about his affair with monica, infront of a worldwide audience, and still kept his job as president, in britain he would have been, out of job in a week.


HAHAHAH country of truth?? LMAO!!!! YOUR beloved country man BLIAR lied about Iraq from day one. LOL. STOP hating USA you jealous brit. USA OWNS your pathetic NATION.

HAHAHAH country of truth?? LMAO!!!! YOUR beloved country man BLIAR lied about Iraq from day one. LOL. STOP hating USA you jealous brit. USA OWNS your pathetic NATION.

Britains offspring, owns britain, your pathetic NATION, is our child, bumpkin like you a big spoilt chid brat.

And remember the language, you will speak until the day you die, is english!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You country bumpkin

Britains offspring, owns britain, your pathetic NATION, is our child, bumpkin like you a big spoilt chid brat.

And remember the language, you will speak until the day you die, is english!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You country bumpkin

I can smell the smoke coming out of ur head. But u cant deny that your country is nothing but bunch of faggot liers like blair and his goverment. So before you say anything to our President Bush look at your lap dog. Your Prime Minster is our lap dog, so is your nation. There is nothing worse than that, a Prime Minster of ENGLAND takes our orders and WE TELL him how to run his Country. U are living in a sad state of mind. Wake up and SMELL the US OF A.

I can smell the smoke coming out of ur head. But u cant deny that your country is nothing but bunch of faggot liers like blair and his goverment. So before you say anything to our President Bush look at your lap dog. Your Prime Minster is our lap dog, so is your nation. There is nothing worse than that, a Prime Minster of ENGLAND takes our orders and WE TELL him how to run his Country. U are living in a sad state of mind. Wake up and SMELL the US OF A.

We did not follow, your dumb asses to vietnam, did we.

Yes we did your country a favour, in following you to iraq, and by doing so gave it some legitamacy.
Or else your country would have been isolated further in the world, if thats possible.

You are such a red neck country bumpkin, i can see why you voted for bush,
Without the UK you would not even be living in the USA, you dummy, say hi to your daddy me and the rest of britain.

What language are you typing in bumpkin, or english i forgot LOL

let me repeat for you MORONS and mentally Handicap birtish thugs. Birtish marines were terrorists, it can't be any simple than that.


The official said two unknown gunmen in full Arabic dress began firing on civilians in central Basra, wounding several, including a traffic police officer. There were no fatalities, the official said.

The two gunmen fled the scene but were captured and taken in for questioning, admitting they were British marines carrying out a "special security task," the official said.
.

They were not Marines they were SAS the SAS is part of the ARMY. There are also two sides to every story, you can either believe from some "unknown" local Basra official that two members of the most professional disciplined special forces unit on the planet started shooting unarmed civilians for no apparant reason OR you can wait until all the facts are known and the truth comes out.

HAHAHAH country of truth?? LMAO!!!! YOUR beloved country man BLIAR lied about Iraq from day one. LOL. STOP hating USA you jealous brit. USA OWNS your pathetic NATION.

Blair did lie and he will eventually pay the penalty, as for hating the USA!! not me? I like the US and I like americans. I'm a former British Soldier (sorry former British Terrorist) who had lots of contact with the US Army and there was never a problem between us. As for the USA owning the UK? well actually more US companys are British owned than UK companys being US owned!!. I suspect you never knew that.



QUOTE
I can smell the smoke coming out of ur head. But u cant deny that your country is nothing but bunch of faggot liers like blair and his goverment. So before you say anything to our President Bush look at your lap dog. Your Prime Minster is our lap dog, so is your nation. There is nothing worse than that, a Prime Minster of ENGLAND takes our orders and WE TELL him how to run his Country. U are living in a sad state of mind. Wake up and SMELL the US OF A. QUOTE

He is actually the Prime Minister of the UK not just England. As for the rest , well no need to say anything, the "cringeing" reactions of intelligent americans on reading your pathetic ramblings is enough I think.

You are successful though Skywalker!!! oh yes, you see I pride myself on being even tempered, polite and sensible and being able to simply ignore idiots. But you have been able to divert me from my usual reactions to people like you, so well done on that!!!

and I repeat my previous thread

"You are a wanker and full of Shit"

why is everyone shouting

Blair did lie and he will eventually pay the penalty, as for hating the USA!! not me? I like the US and I like americans. I'm a former British Soldier (sorry former British Terrorist) who had lots of contact with the US Army and there was never a problem between us. As for the USA owning the UK? well actually more US companys are British owned than UK companys being US owned!!. I suspect you never knew that.



QUOTE
I can smell the smoke coming out of ur head. But u cant deny that your country is nothing but bunch of faggot liers like blair and his goverment. So before you say anything to our President Bush look at your lap dog. Your Prime Minster is our lap dog, so is your nation. There is nothing worse than that, a Prime Minster of ENGLAND takes our orders and WE TELL him how to run his Country. U are living in a sad state of mind. Wake up and SMELL the US OF A. QUOTE

He is actually the Prime Minister of the UK not just England. As for the rest , well no need to say anything, the "cringeing" reactions of intelligent americans on reading your pathetic ramblings is enough I think.

You are successful though Skywalker!!! oh yes, you see I pride myself on being even tempered, polite and sensible and being able to simply ignore idiots. But you have been able to divert me from my usual reactions to people like you, so well done on that!!!

and I repeat my previous thread

"You are a wanker and full of Shit"

This guy is incredible, i dare to criticise, his dumb ass president, and he starts a country name calling game, everbody is calling your president, even americans, and especially your comedians, i to like america, but if you are going to attack my country, i will throw insults, back at you, and you will always loose the argument, because your country is the child of the UK, we spawned you,and there is no escaping that fact, your whole life revolves around the ENGLISH LANGUAGE.

If you want to call blair please do, i am not a little baby, political leaders are there, for pot shots to be taken at them.

All this crap about america, owning the world, when you start believing that bull shit, you become a NUT.

America is but a piece of a jigsaw, as is the UK.


America is the only army in the world, that has soldiers giving interviews in iraq, saying things like i cant wait to start shooting them, or i shot 3 guys and then he smiles.

Or putting the American flag over saddams statue, the whole world watched in disbelief as he done it.

Your soldiers need to engage there brains, before giving interviews to the media, because spouting enjoyment about killing people incites hatred, in the muslim world, and the western world.

A soldiers job is to do his job, and get out of there, not to undermine your countries standing in the world, which is what many american soldiers have done, those torturing pictures, with that sadistic bitch pointing at there genitals, made a mockery out of america.
I am aware that torturing is sometimes needed to get info, but you dont *ucking film it and send the pictures off to the media, to make money out of it.

Then your soldiers gaurding saddam, toock pictures, of him in his underwear, and then to scared to sell them to US media, Your soldiers sell them to the UK media.

This whole war has become, a shambles, thanks to these, and shit load of other examples.

Let me tell you something, about britain, you seem to know nothing, about what we say is the truth, when you tell lies in the uk, you are shown the door, in government jobs, unlike America were clinton, lied about his affair with monica, infront of a worldwide audience, and still kept his job as president, in britain he would have been, out of job in a week.


Would that be why 14 reporters got fired from the bbc when they published a truthful report about Iraq? Would that be why Grey got killed for telling the truth about the governments plans? Maybe instead of sitting in asia you should come over here and see whats actually going on.

I actually wonder what their mission was. Was it to pretend to be insurgents and do somthing terrible to get the Iraqi people on their side? sounds very likely, taking in account that they did similar things in Afghanistan and ww2.

It would be interesting to know what their mission was. it is likely (as the SAS has arabic speakers) to gain intelligence about the militia groups. Your suggestion that mission was to carry out an atrocity and blame it on the militants is ludicrous.

Islamic extremists may be stupid enough to murder people when told to do so but you clearly have never been in the military or indeed have no idea about western military culture. British officers would never order such an operation and if they did the men would not carry it out. As in all armies, sometimes standards and behaviour fall below those expected but to indicate that SAS soldiers went out with the intention of butchering Iraqi civilians is absurd.

Just look at Basra 2 days ago, despite being petrol bombed and being physically set on fire the british soldiers did not resort to wild and inaccurate fire with their weapons. very few armies could have maintained their discipline in that situation.

I actually wonder what their mission was. Was it to pretend to be insurgents and do somthing terrible to get the Iraqi people on their side? sounds very likely, taking in account that they did similar things in Afghanistan and ww2.

be specific!!! just what did the SAS do in Afghanistan and in WWII that made you make that statement?

so what have we here....a new war between te US and UK?...hah
look. cant you see whats going on??
the scheme of divide an control--in Iraq, etc.....tis was done very muc in the 'modern' age by the Bristish in teir Empire days....India????

its an age old tactic of tyrants, V E R Y much including the present secret government and its secret squads, the Illuminati

they'vegot you (those gullibles amongst you) actually imagining caves of evil-eyed
Arabs in caves plotting to bring down --repeat this in the most cheesy american film-previewer tone--'CIVILIZATION AS WE KNOW IT' bla bla...rather the culpti is El-CIA-Duh

think about it yourselves. what better way to take te focus of the real deal tan to hav people fighting each OTHER. jeeeez the illustratin of this strategy is evident in this very thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! except it is unconscious and not deliberate

so what have we here....a new war between te US and UK?...hah
look. cant you see whats going on??
the scheme of divide an control--in Iraq, etc.....tis was done very muc in the 'modern' age by the Bristish in teir Empire days....India????

its an age old tactic of tyrants, V E R Y much including the present secret government and its secret squads, the Illuminati

they'vegot you (those gullibles amongst you) actually imagining caves of evil-eyed
Arabs in caves plotting to bring down --repeat this in the most cheesy american film-previewer tone--'CIVILIZATION AS WE KNOW IT' bla bla...rather the culpti is El-CIA-Duh

think about it yourselves. what better way to take te focus of the real deal tan to hav people fighting each OTHER. jeeeez the illustratin of this strategy is evident in this very thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! except it is unconscious and not deliberate

Still waiting for specifics, your full of ideas's about conspiracy's but short on facts or evidence to support your claims.

I suppose the CIA murdered Elvis as well!!!

now that idea is just silly isn' it?

you know what my idea of a nightmare is?

runni my arse ragged, trying to perform thankles task of convincing temwho are blind but WONT see that there really IS a conspiracy

now just for fun, how could i get throug your assued blindness me wonders--without burning off too much eff.rt (that culd most likely be fruitless)????????

i might ask you to study about Edward Bernays 'ENgineering consent'

as with say 'COLUMBO'--the fictitious detective character who looks for te munutae of detail from all anges, you miht like to try looking at the occult symbolismall over '9-11' and'7-7' wink wink hint hint

but there is actually something YOU might be able to help me on...and i a serious about this. serously

you know that pictre of the 4 London 'bombers' just about to go into the tube station no not the 'latest ones'....now one of the bombers seems to have the disant railing in FRONT of him, and part of the railing going throug his head........Not ONE mainstream spurce has even mentioned this weird anomaly. not one has bpothered to reply to my inquiry about it

so, do you know about CCTV footage. is this regular occurace, or doesit point to doctoring?

Still waiting for specifics, your full of ideas's about conspiracy's but short on facts or evidence to support your claims.

I suppose the CIA murdered Elvis as well!!!

Yes there is a lot of wild accusastions being made here, but no live links to back up there bullshit, they criticise, the bbc for sacking reporters for telling the truth, were is your proof!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The BBC can not be biased, it is written in there charter to broadcast, the BBC is not owned by a media mogul like ted turner, cnns boss, it is owned by the people and the government.



Odin'Izm
Registered Atheist (1,360 posts)

1 shred of evidence about, the bbc sacking 14 workers for telling the truth, or do we assume, all your posts are fabricated bullshit!!!!!!!!!!

And a credible source, no propaganda sites, with a hidden agenda, all my links are direct news links from the BBC.

You are getting the BBC, mixed up with russian tv, your homeland, and we all know russian news, is controlled by putin directly.

[QUOTE=aghart
Just look at Basra 2 days ago, despite being petrol bombed and being physically set on fire the british soldiers did not resort to wild and inaccurate fire with their weapons. very few armies could have maintained their discipline in that situation.[/QUOTE]

Yes the british soldiers, showed fantastic composure, after being set on fire, i have no doubt if these soldiers, had been america soldiers, there would have been a massacre there, with grenades, and bombs, and machine gunfire, and popcorn and doughnuts, flying everywhere.

I get the feeling Iran, the paymasters behind, this set up, will pick american soldiers, next time, having not gotten, the violent response they wanted here.

But its a bit hard, to get near american soldiers, they shoot you for just approaching there roadblock, italian undercover agent case in point, they were informed of his arrival, and the car model, yet still they shot him to bits, i suppose there motto, is its better to be safe, than sorry.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4271234.stm

Here is the disgusting picture of a british soldier, on fire.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yet our soldiers all around the incident, did not resort to a massacre.


Look at that picture, and tell me if you think US troops, would have held there fire.

now that idea is just silly isn' it?

you know what my idea of a nightmare is?

runni my arse ragged, trying to perform thankles task of convincing temwho are blind but WONT see that there really IS a conspiracy

now just for fun, how could i get throug your assued blindness me wonders--without burning off too much eff.rt (that culd most likely be fruitless)????????

i might ask you to study about Edward Bernays 'ENgineering consent'

as with say 'COLUMBO'--the fictitious detective character who looks for te munutae of detail from all anges, you miht like to try looking at the occult symbolismall over '9-11' and'7-7' wink wink hint hint

but there is actually something YOU might be able to help me on...and i a serious about this. serously

you know that pictre of the 4 London 'bombers' just about to go into the tube station no not the 'latest ones'....now one of the bombers seems to have the disant railing in FRONT of him, and part of the railing going throug his head........Not ONE mainstream spurce has even mentioned this weird anomaly. not one has bpothered to reply to my inquiry about it

so, do you know about CCTV footage. is this regular occurace, or doesit point to doctoring?

I have no idea if CCTV footage is of good or mediocre quality, but I assume that you are indicating that the 4 men stated to be the suicide bombers were in fact innocent and that the CIA or MI5 actually planted the bombs and these 4 "innocent Muslim youths have been unfairly blamed?

I think you watch too much TV.

I have no idea if CCTV footage is of good or mediocre quality, but I assume that you are indicating that the 4 men stated to be the suicide bombers were in fact innocent and that the CIA or MI5 actually planted the bombs and these 4 "innocent Muslim youths have been unfairly blamed?

(((((((Yes

I think you watch too much TV.

not that much. but you miss the point that it's the TV which churns out the propaganda!

Here is the disgusting picture of a british soldier, on fire.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Is that picture of him towards the bottom of the page him after being set on fire? He has some marks on his nose, upper lip and cheek so I would assume so, but it doesn't look as damaging which is surprising. Heck, his eyebrows are still there! If that is him after the incident, I'm glad he turned out okay.

- N

OR you can wait until all the facts are known and the truth comes out.
The facts will never be known and the truth will never come out. All governments lie. You can't trust the British government and you can't trust their Iraqi critics. You can't rely on the media because they rarely get the story straight.

The Basra Iraqi version according to one biased media guy goes like this:

Dressed to look like Arabs, the two soldiers were driving a white car, allegedly packed with weapons and explosives, when Iraqi police challenged them at a security checkpoint.

Mohammed al-Abadi, an official at the Basra governorate, told newswires that police had believed the SAS men were “suspicious.” When one policeman approached the car, “one of these guys fired at him,” Abadi said. One police officer was reportedly killed and several others wounded.

“Then the police managed to capture them,” al-Abadi continued. “They refused to say what their mission was. They said they were British soldiers and [suggested] to ask their commander about their mission.”



If the British government says there was no bomb filled white car and Basra police say there was a bomb filled white car who do you believe and why?

you have to explore the BIGGER picture/context this is all happening in

In Basra, two British soldiers were caught in plain Arab dress, with missile.... The news is rare heard in US mainstream media. You know why? The picture of this one will tell you the truth. Media only shows you the British soldier was on fire but never release the pictures of weapons and wigs.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IssuesAndAlibis_The_Forum/message/7566

If they success in their mission, will that be another Al Qaida terror attack? Or Sunny attack Shiite?

be specific!!! just what did the SAS do in Afghanistan and in WWII that made you make that statement?

In Afghanistan there were many cases of SAS dressed as russian soliders shooting at the civilian population to turn them to the british side, 10 men were caught in such an attempt by Russian troops they was on trial in 1989 and again in 1997.

In ww2 the Crypto wars, included sending false data via the broken enigma machine to german u-boats to create confusion. To cover the broken enigma up, they sent a team of SAS men to Naples and set up a base overlooking the port harbouring many U-boats, the base was made in 2 days and made to look asif it had been there for many years, to give the germans a false explination as to why the british knew where all their U-boats were. <- VEry smart move, but still related to the darker things special ops do.

Islamic extremists may be stupid enough to murder people when told to do so but you clearly have never been in the military or indeed have no idea about western military culture. British officers would never order such an operation and if they did the men would not carry it out. As in all armies, sometimes standards and behaviour fall below those expected but to indicate that SAS soldiers went out with the intention of butchering Iraqi civilians is absurd.

Calm down child, It is you who has obviously never been to war, As you have no Idea how dark it can get. ask anyone who served in either northern ireland in the 80's, falklands or afghanistan. (many of them are now security guards) War is very dirty, but this dirt never hits the media, some stories would send shivers down your spine. Take your nationalist stories of fairys and honour elsewhere.

Since the SAS are special ops, the things they do are secret and happen in the shadows, this puts the geneva convention down the drain, and often the sky is the limit to what they are able to do without ever being policed. And as far as british officers ordering the action goes, officers have no word in this, the orders come from the top, (how do you think goverments get their dirty work done?)

In Afghanistan there were many cases of SAS dressed as russian soliders shooting at the civilian population to turn them to the british side, 10 men were caught in such an attempt by Russian troops they was on trial in 1989 and again in 1997.


Why the hell would SAS soldiers be in afghanistan, in 1989, are you for real, it would bring down, the entire british government, the prime minister would have been out of a job in a week.

Every damn country that has nukes, know not to interfere, in eachothers problems.
You are listening, to yet more russian propaganda, christ if russian news told you the world is flat, and pig can fly, do you believe them also.

The dangers of communist controlled tv, is there for the world to see, if your ridiculous statement is anything to go by.

I asked you yesterday to supply information, about another ridiculous statement you made, about the BBC sacking 14 reporters for telling the truth, i see you have refused to reply to that, or supply proof.

Your lies, are getting bigger by the day, so is your nose.

let me repeat for you MORONS and mentally Handicap birtish thugs. Birtish marines were terrorists, it can't be any simple than that.



If the British marines are terrists (not that the men in question were marines) is that why the US keep shooting at us

March 2003 - British Aircraft shot down by US Patriot missile

And what about this

http://www.thisislondon.com/news/articles/5401680?source=Evening%20Standard

Holy Christ!


And this

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/03/28/1080331001795.html?from=storyrhs

A three year old boy!


I was reading throug the number of dead British troops that died in iraq and a large number died in "traqic accidents" I suspect a US hand there

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3847051.stm

Summary: The USA F***ed up Iraq not the British

Skywalker!! your a wanker and full of shit.
I thin kwe may get along quite well, you have the ability to state the obvious

Why the hell would SAS soldiers be in afghanistan, in 1989, are you for real, it would bring down, the entire british government, the prime minister would have been out of a job in a week.



They erent in Afghanistan in 89 , they were on trial in russia after being beaten for years in siberian jails.

So Russia locked them up without trial for years, that was nice.


SOunds like something the yanks would do

So Russia locked them up without trial for years, that was nice.


SOunds like something the yanks would do

Yep. the 80s were a dirty period.

What was the verdict of the trial, you didn't mention


p.s. The 80's had good music

They erent in Afghanistan in 89 , they were on trial in russia after being beaten for years in siberian jails.

Where is your proof they went on trial in russia, where is your proof they shot civilians in afghanistan in the eighties.

Where is your proof, simple question, answer it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

or stop typing bullshit.

Every damn country that has nukes, know not to interfere, in eachothers problems.
You are listening, to yet more russian propaganda, christ if russian news told you the world is flat, and pig can fly, do you believe them also.


Right im listening to russian propoganda while living abroad for the past fourteen years... are you a fucking moron? yes you obviously are.

The dangers of communist controlled tv, is there for the world to see, if your ridiculous statement is anything to go by.

yes BBC is a communist controlled tv station... wonderful

I asked you yesterday to supply information, about another ridiculous statement you made, about the BBC sacking 14 reporters for telling the truth, i see you have refused to reply to that, or supply proof.


The reason I didnt reply is that I have limited access to the internet now, and only reply on threads I notice first. If you want proof it should be all over the net, Im tired of people bitching about proof (if it matters to you so much find proof against what I said, Im not wasting my time searching through google for a righhtwing media source to match your moronic agenda)
Your lies, are getting bigger by the day, so is your nose.

I dont lie and my nose is fine, thanks for caring.

Where is your proof they went on trial in russia, where is your proof they shot civilians in afghanistan in the eighties.

Where is your proof, simple question, answer it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

or stop typing bullshit.

HOW WILL I FIND YOU PROOF TO SOMTHING THAT NEVER HIT THE MEDIA, AND IS HIDDEN IN THE DARKER AREAS OF OUR SOCIETY!!!! moron.

What was the verdict of the trial, you didn't mention


p.s. The 80's had good music


Its the USSR in its last stages.... full of corruption... do the math they were all executed and never seen again. Or traded for soviet spys sitting in jails elswhere in the western world.

How the hell did you find out about it then, unless you were one of the once that invaded afghanistan yourself and helped to start all the problems there


p.s. I am going to start looking for proof

What was the verdict of the trial, you didn't mention


p.s. The 80's had good music

There can not be a verdict to a trial, that never was, a good russian fairy tale, is what we are hearing here, russian jealousy towards the west, if you noticed he has not responded to one request for proof.

In a world where there are billions of news articles on the web, i would have thought if there was any proof, he would have supplied it by now.


http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=bullshit&btnG=Google+Search
I just typed in bullshit on google, 9 million responses Odin'Izm

How the hell did you find out about it then

My grandfather and his brother searved in the russian speacial forces in afghanistan, and getting rid of the propoganda problem was part of their task. The reason I started this rant is because I spent last night speaking with the security guard at my residence who told me his war stories, many of which were quite dark, And sparked some old memories.

In a world where there are billions of news articles on the web, i would have thought if there was any proof, he would have supplied it by now.

Maybe thats because I doubt I will find any proof to back it up.

So you know what happened because a security guard told you, right

1. I dont know for sure what happened.

2. I am speculating on stories from my grandfather and great uncle, and the story of what a security guard told me.

A pretty bad basis, but ah well.

I don't think we should ever allege that the US or English or Russian governments lie. After all, if they're lying now, maybe they're lying about The Holocaust.

All governments lie its a damn fact, the world is'nt perfect. With the amount of first hand tales of the holocaust I doubt it is a lie, especially since no one profits from the creation of such a story.

All governments lie its a damn fact, the world is'nt perfect. With the amount of first hand tales of the holocaust I doubt it is a lie, especially since no one profits from the creation of such a story.

Yes they do, but 12 families of supposed sas soldiers, in russians jails, do not lie, they would go to the press about it, it would be the story of the century, it would have brought down the government of the time.

The uk is not russia, you can not silence families, and make people disappear, if you wish to make things up to get your weak point across, try harder next time to get a more realistic fairy tale.

You also silly point on not living in russia for 14 years, so russian propaganda has know effect on you, what about the muslims have been living in the uk for up to 20 years, yet they are still influenced by there former countries propaganda & brainwashing in pakistan, and are now blowing themselves up in the uk.

A couple of months, of a propaganda and brainwashing is enough to influence that persons mind for a life time, fact.
A classic case in point is you, you are coming up with these ridiculous stories, and conspiracy theories, after living in russia.

The british government answers to the people, they screw up, there out its as simple as that, in russia could shoot millions, and still be elected again, such is the state of russian politics, he is arresting everybody who either supports his opponents, or he is raiding opponents offices, on baloney tax charges, that only exist, as soon as they become a threat to him, or otherwise there would be no tax problems.
That russian billionaire, even his canadian lawyer has been told yesterday to leave the country, or he will be arrested, no doubt on tax charges LOL

Right im listening to russian propoganda while living abroad for the past fourteen years... are you a fucking moron? yes you obviously are.


yes BBC is a communist controlled tv station... wonderful


The reason I didnt reply is that I have limited access to the internet now, and only reply on threads I notice first. If you want proof it should be all over the net, Im tired of people bitching about proof (if it matters to you so much find proof against what I said, Im not wasting my time searching through google for a righhtwing media source to match your moronic agenda)


I dont lie and my nose is fine, thanks for caring.


"I asked you yesterday to supply information, about another ridiculous statement you made, about the BBC sacking 14 reporters for telling the truth, i see you have refused to reply to that, or supply proof."
”
(if it matters to you so much find proof against what I said, Im not wasting my time searching through google for a righhtwing media source to match your moronic agenda)


How the hell can i find proof of something that does not exist, Are you all together there?

You have limited access to the internet, hey it takes 2 seconds for google to respond to your requests.

Maybe you can spend 2 seconds less, posting ridiculous fairy tales, and look for facts to back up these inane lies.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/09/24/iraq.basra.ap/index.html

birtish terrorist fucks should be arrested and should be sent to abu gharib. Look at these terrorists and their supporters, what a shame.

The arrest warants are not legally binding

I am reminded of the time that those US troops shot a shit load of iraqi policemen, oh and that three year old

The Brits will enquire and punish them if they have to, as for sending them away to be mistreated by americans, well that's what Americans would do, and no civilised country wants to stoop to that level

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/09/24/iraq.basra.ap/index.html

birtish terrorist fucks should be arrested and should be sent to abu gharib. Look at these terrorists and their supporters, what a shame.

Your CNN link has pictures or
Shiite cleric Muqtada al Sadr, who is the leader of Shiite militia, and who is responsible for killing american troops, your country, so this man is your hero now is he, because the people who handed over the british troops, are his men.

The Shiite militia are backed by iran, who supplies weapons & money to them.

The leader of the Shiites, had a heart operation in the UK last year that saved his life, while he was in the uk his men were killing american soldiers, in the stand off with Shiite cleric Muqtada al Sadr.

You seem more willing to believe Shiite cleric Muqtada al Sadr & his militia, on what happened with the SAS men in Basra, than believing the UK government, the only reason the UK government is there, is to give support to our american allie, and some credibility to it, otherwise i am sure you know you guys would be getting alot more crap from the world over your iraq invasion.

The UK is not despised, around the world, America is, you should be thankfull, we supported you there, instead of trying to backstab us, which really does not say much, about you does it?

When the world believes the word of, Muqtada al Sadr & his militia. over the british government, than it will be a sad day for commensense, but you have already reached that stage, which does not say much for you does it?

Your CNN link has pictures or
Shiite cleric Muqtada al Sadr, who is the leader of Shiite militia, and who is responsible for killing american troops, your country, so this man is your hero now is he, because the people who handed over the british troops, are his men.

The Shiite militia are backed by iran, who supplies weapons & money to them.

The leader of the Shiites, had a heart operation in the UK last year that saved his life, while he was in the uk his men were killing american soldiers, in the stand off with Shiite cleric Muqtada al Sadr.

You seem more willing to believe Shiite cleric Muqtada al Sadr & his militia, on what happened with the SAS men in Basra, than believing the UK government, the only reason the UK government is there, is to give support to our american allie, and some credibility to it, otherwise i am sure you know you guys would be getting alot more crap from the world over your iraq invasion.

The UK is not despised, around the world, America is, you should be thankfull, we supported you there, instead of trying to backstab us, which really does not say much, about you does it?

When the world believes the word of, Muqtada al Sadr & his militia. over the british government, than it will be a sad day for commensense, but you have already reached that stage, which does not say much for you does it?


another birtish liar, pathetic, go lick bliar ass and stop spreading your lies and propaganda here, why the fuck ur people are anti war, we need to invade ur country, simple is that. Fuck this nonsense of anti war birtish cowards and loonies.I just dont get it, how many time do we have to come and save ur pathetic coward asses?

In Afghanistan there were many cases of SAS dressed as russian soliders shooting at the civilian population to turn them to the british side, 10 men were caught in such an attempt by Russian troops they was on trial in 1989 and again in 1997.



Really!! I suppose there must have been trouble with communications in both 1989 & 1997 because SAS Soldiers put on trial by the Soviet Union would have been headline news in the UK and all over the western World, In fact it would have been headline news all over the planet except that it wasn't, because it never happened.

Your mind is so full of rumour, myth, whispered secrets, gossip and sheer fantasy that there is no room left for the main event. TRUTH is the main event, but truth is a word that escapes you. In your limited time on the net at least provide for us a copy of a news report that backs up and verifies your statement, SHOW US THAT YOU ARE SPEAKING THE TRUTH!!! . But you can't show us you are speaking the truth because everything you say is simply "fantasy"

FROM THIS MOMENT ONWARDS YOU CEASE TO HAVE ANY CREDIBILITY ON THIS FORUM.

FROM THIS MOMENT ONWARDS YOU CEASE TO HAVE ANY CREDIBILITY ON THIS FORUM.


ya, like u have any or u had any ever. Freaking liars.

Calm down child, It is you who has obviously never been to war, As you have no Idea how dark it can get. ask anyone who served in either northern ireland in the 80's, falklands or afghanistan. (many of them are now security guards) War is very dirty, but this dirt never hits the media, some stories would send shivers down your spine.


I did 22 years in the British army and served 3 tours in Northern Ireland, I have had RPG's and M16's fired at me, and I have seen bombs exploding and the destruction they cause.

but this dirt never hits the media, some stories would send shivers down your spine.

That is the difference between you and I, I have seen action and have real life experience while you have simply heard second hand stories.


By the way, I am very calm, and at 50 years old far from being a child!!.

ya, like u have any or u had any ever. Freaking liars.

May the force be with you Luke!!

When the world believes the word of, Muqtada al Sadr & his militia. over the british government, than it will be a sad day for commensense, but you have already reached that stage, which does not say much for you does it?

For informed people common sense and experience shows us that all political people are lying almost every time they open their mouths. We should assume that both Muqtatada and the British government are lying until we have good reason to believe otherwise.

Al Gore invented British terrorism.

No joke.

This thread has gone to finger pointing. All we have to do now is wait for godwins law.

why the fuck ur people are anti war,

You idiot, most of the world is anti-war it is just the americans that think that there is someting brave about it. Wasn't one of the main election topics in the US about who had served for longer in the Army?


we need to invade ur country, simple is that.


The Yanks may be able to invade countries like iraq and Afghanistan but against a powerful nation, don't make me laugh.


Fuck this nonsense of anti war birtish cowards and loonies.I just dont get it, how many time do we have to come and save ur pathetic coward asses?

Yor heavens sake you moron, at the moment we are the only thing between you and the UN security council, if not for european support of the iraq war the US would be on your own and would be slated, especially in the middle east where everyone hates your ass.

The US is british made and is like a child that has gone away to college, it has grown up and is starting to spread it's wings but really it is still totaly dependent on it's parents.

Your CNN link has pictures or
Shiite cleric Muqtada al Sadr, who is the leader of Shiite militia, and who is responsible for killing american troops, your country, so this man is your hero now is he, because the people who handed over the british troops, are his men.

The Shiite militia are backed by iran, who supplies weapons & money to them.

The leader of the Shiites, had a heart operation in the UK last year that saved his life, while he was in the uk his men were killing american soldiers, in the stand off with Shiite cleric Muqtada al Sadr.

You seem more willing to believe Shiite cleric Muqtada al Sadr & his militia, on what happened with the SAS men in Basra, than believing the UK government, the only reason the UK government is there, is to give support to our american allie, and some credibility to it, otherwise i am sure you know you guys would be getting alot more crap from the world over your iraq invasion.

The UK is not despised, around the world, America is, you should be thankfull, we supported you there, instead of trying to backstab us, which really does not say much, about you does it?

When the world believes the word of, Muqtada al Sadr & his militia. over the british government, than it will be a sad day for commensense, but you have already reached that stage, which does not say much for you does it?


prove it all, I dont beleive you

Really!! I suppose there must have been trouble with communications in both 1989 & 1997 because SAS Soldiers put on trial by the Soviet Union would have been headline news in the UK and all over the western World,

unless they did somthing nasty, which the british government would never want people to hear of. Do you think the thousands of spys in the cold war ever hit the media? ofcourse not, even the ones who were sitting in prisons at the time, were never heard of untill much later on.

Your mind is so full of rumour, myth, whispered secrets, gossip and sheer fantasy that there is no room left for the main event.

You can keep saying that to yourself if it makes it easier for you to deal with the fact that you cant disprove my opinion.


TRUTH is the main event, but truth is a word that escapes you. In your limited time on the net at least provide for us a copy of a news report that backs up and verifies your statement,

News reports back up nothing!!! ABSOLUTELY nothing! They are other peoples opinions, pulled to one side, left or right, they are subject to the crazes in the society of the time. News reports are BY FAR not the truth.


SHOW US THAT YOU ARE SPEAKING THE TRUTH!!! . But you can't show us you are speaking the truth because everything you say is simply "fantasy"

You would choose to beleive a biased reporter, rather than to information thats coming from firsthand events?

FROM THIS MOMENT ONWARDS YOU CEASE TO HAVE ANY CREDIBILITY ON THIS FORUM.


Sais you moron. Why would I lie? Why would I profit from lieing? The fact that countries have secret wars happening all the time isnt a secret, read cryptonomicon.

I did 22 years in the British army and served 3 tours in Northern Ireland, I have had RPG's and M16's fired at me, and I have seen bombs exploding and the destruction they cause.

Wow M16's in northern ireland... thats a new one. It sounds like a generalisation from a child when asked to provide his assosiations with war.

Did you serve as an engineer?


That is the difference between you and I, I have seen action and have real life experience while you have simply heard second hand stories.

I served in chechneya for four years, unfortunately I couldnt use any experiences from it to talk about the actions of the british SAS, as they were'nt involved, therefore I would have no information.

prove it all, I dont beleive you

You Hippocrit

You Hippocrit

That was the intended message.

SAS Soldiers put on trial by the Soviet Union would have been headline news in the UK and all over the western World


The soviet union was cut off from the rest of the world, no one could get in or out without special clearence, and certainly no internal information would leak out. It was the cold war, era of espionage, no way in hell would such information leak out into the public.

whatever

The soviet union was cut off from the rest of the world, no one could get in or out without special clearence, and certainly no internal information would leak out. It was the cold war, era of espionage, no way in hell would such information leak out into the public.
The soviet union, might have been cut off, and there was a news blackout on it there, but there is no news blackout in the uk, and 12 missing sas men, would kick up a big stink in the uk, there families, would not stay quiet.

Why dont you just put up your hand, and say you were talking bollocks, i mean you quote sources, like security guards, who are basically people, who failed to get in the police force or army, that is the shit security guards, the expensive security guards, are ex-army.

Odin'Izm you have been caught out in 2 lies, about the SAS, and the BBC, and at least 2 other posters here, have agreed with me on that, in this thread.

So stop living in cuckoo land, and admit you were talking garbage.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4279988.stm
US-Shia clash erupts in Baghdad



Moqtada Sadr's supporters say they came under fire

Four militiamen loyal to Iraq's radical Shia cleric Moqtada Sadr have been killed in clashes with US forces in Baghdad overnight, Iraqi officials say.

It is the first such fighting since a rebellion by supporters of the cleric ended more than a year ago.

The US military confirmed it had fought "anti-Iraqi forces" in eastern Baghdad.



Moqtada Sadr's supporters have been at war with america for over a year, as well you know, you wanted proof here it is, from todays news, i dont even have to look for it.

dear george bush
please kill the rodent like brits with "their own" nukes

dear george bush
please kill the rodent like brits with "their own" nukes

For someone who sings a anti-war tune, you change your mind like the wind, now you want to kill 55 million people in the uk, like all left wingers you seem to have some marbles loose inside your head.

people?
nah ahhh
rodents

people?
nah ahhh
rodents
So rodents have nationalities now, british rodents, how about passports too.
Are rodents squeeks, all one language, are can you hear a bit of spanish, in a mexican rodent squeek.
Leftwingers you are all, out to lunch.

rodents with limited sentience?
not too far fetched

rodents are vermin?
yes indeed

exterminate?
absolutely

12 missing sas men, would kick up a big stink in the uk, there families, would not stay quiet.

Haha, yeah right.
They just write a letter that goes a little like this:
"Dear chunky British woman with bad teeth,
Your husband had the unfortunate experience of dying during [combat/training/transportation]. So sorry that your husband had to make this sacrifice. I'm sur ehe's in heaven now, with way hot American babes. We all know God's American, anyway. Stiff upper lip, wot wot!
Sincerely, some dude from brittania"

People die in accidents all the time. Some even die in military accidents. It wouldn't be totally ludicrous to suggest that this poor british woman with a desperate need of orthodontics had her hubby-wubby blow up in a helicopter or something.

totally ludicrous
totally ludicrous, yes i agree with you, your idea, and his, the culprit odin
failed to provide, one shred of evidence, and then asked me to find the evidence for him, so pathetic are the claims.

I think odin should be posting to disney forums, being that fantasy is his specialised subject.

Haha, yeah right.
They just write a letter that goes a little like this:
"Dear chunky British woman with bad teeth,
Your husband had the unfortunate experience of dying during [combat/training/transportation]. So sorry that your husband had to make this sacrifice. I'm sur ehe's in heaven now, with way hot American babes. We all know God's American, anyway. Stiff upper lip, wot wot!
Sincerely, some dude from brittania"

People die in accidents all the time. Some even die in military accidents. It wouldn't be totally ludicrous to suggest that this poor british woman with a desperate need of orthodontics had her hubby-wubby blow up in a helicopter or something.


It does not work like that in the UK, people here do not simply accept what officialdom tells them. In the falklands war the Royal Navy destroyer HMS Cardiff shot down what it thought was an Argentine helicopter. It turned out be be a British chopper, whispers of the truth got back to the families and eventually the truth came out.

However the main point is that SAS soldiers did not go around killing afghans, No SAS were captured and put on trial by the russians, in fact if the SAS actually did 50% of what "rumour control" says they did, then the Regiment would need to be about the size of a Division.

By the way, I'm not even going to comment on the tone of your reply. I refuse to lower myself into the gutter in order to be at the same level as you!!

dear george bush
please kill the rodent like brits with "their own" nukes


As if bush knows where britain is

For someone who sings a anti-war tune, you change your mind like the wind, now you want to kill 55 million people in the uk, like all left wingers you seem to have some marbles loose inside your head.

Left!!!!

uh!!