View Full Version : biowarfare... smallpox?


the sage
07-29-03, 11:14 AM
my girlfriend gave me a call last night and told me about what she had been lectured on by some high ranking medical official. so, i do not know about the validity of anything i am about to ask about, but that is why i am posting... if any one any more info on this please let me know or definetely post the links! this may be old news to some people (oops!) but to me it was interesting, i just want to learn more about it. here goes...

smallpox, the very very deadly disease, was thought to be have been exterminated years ago. when the vaccines were spread around the entire existence of the disease was nearly ended.... nearly. 2 cultures of the disease remained in savannah (sp?) georgia, i think this was in the 70's? someone correct me... any ways... 1 of the cultures was sent to russia for study, and one remained here in the u.s. a few years later the cold war begins, and in an attempt to create a bio-chemical weapon, russia starts to breed (? is this what it's called?) smallpox.

in the end russia has succeeded in making just about enough smallpox to destroy to world 5 times over. yes 5 times!!! the cold war ends, with no need for these newly developed disease cultures... so what happens? the u.s. tries to find all remaining cultures of the disease but only suceeds in finding about 10% of what russia had produced... this means that 90% were missing... what happened ? well the 90% was somehow distributed among the black markets. to this date the u.s. does not know what happened to the remaining samples of the disease. the government must assume the worst case scenario, of course, and prepare for a smallpox attack.

a decade ago (or about, again i am not clear on the facts) a vaccination program was started in the u.s. it was set up in 3 phases which are as follows:

phase 1: the top military, government, and medical officials would all be vaccinated. this is logical because they are the ones that must be safe when distributing the vaccination, or leading the country.

phase 2: 10% or roughly that amount of the physicians in the u.s. will be vaccinated, in preparation for an attack or spread of the disease by other means.

phase 3: the population of the u.s. will be offered the vaccine on a voluntary and optional basis.

according to this doctor that my girlfriend spoke to, good ol president bush has stopped this vaccination process. phase 1 has been completed, but at the beginning of phase 2 president bush has ordered a halt. phase 3 was supposed to occur in february of 2004, but now it is stopped indefinetely.


okay if any one has any info on this, i'd love to read through it! maybe this is old news? i really don't know, it's definetely new to me though. as far as the person that got all the info to my girlfriend, it was during a presentation to medical students training in the e.r. of a new york city hospital. so what does everyone think?

nico
07-29-03, 11:29 AM
Well Small pox is histories greatest killer, 100;s of million dead. She destroyed the Indian populations of America, and she was a scourge up till 1980. Yes Russia has mass produced death like crazy. Biomopart or something like that is there bio production industry. Many of the toxins are in Kazakhstan (thank fully which is stable). I suggest you get National Geographics WMD special. It's really good. :D

justiceusa
07-29-03, 12:57 PM
Side effects from the vaccination , including a number of deaths, has caused the administration to re-think the idea of a massive vaccination campaign. All military personell have been vaccinated.
A great number of health care workers, who were scheduled to be vaccinated in the second round, were refusing the vaccinations.

David Bloom, the well know embedded reporter in Iraq, is believed to have died as a result of the smallpox vaccination. The event of his death brought the situation more into the public eye.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2003-03-30-smallpox-usat_x.htm

Don Hakman
07-29-03, 01:22 PM
Although Blum's death is speculation the rest is true with the addition that phase 2 has been halted mostly by physicians.

justiceusa
07-29-03, 01:56 PM
According to Dr. Brian Strom, head of the independent advisory commitee on the vaccine , Blooms Death was caused by the vaccination. It was not counted because there was no one in Iraq who was assigned to track vaccine related problems in civilians.

http://www.whale.to/vaccine/david_bloom.html

Spyke
07-29-03, 02:07 PM
Just a quick sidebar, Sage. I think you meant Atlanta where the Center for Disease Control (CDC) is located rather than Savannah.

the sage
07-29-03, 02:12 PM
Originally posted by Spyke
Just a quick sidebar, Sage. I think you meant Atlanta where the Center for Disease Control (CDC) is located rather than Savannah.

oh you're right! thank you for correcting that... and keep posting people.. i'm learning a lot