i think that this was unfairly closed.
the simple fact that the vast majority of soldiers that die in combat are poor is worthy of discussion.
it seems like its an obvious thing,but the very fact that it is obvious makes it intensely depressing.
that people who have no idea what they are fighting for will fight other people who have no idea what they are fighting for just for the profit of their rulers.

Calling all soldiers stupid and poor and college students rich and smart is not even worth discussing its just a broad and insulting statement. I know plenty of smart soldiers and plenty of dumber than dumb college students.

To be fair, she called her own father stupid as well.. lol

ok.,in that way it was right to close it.
i guess i just took something else from the thread.
something which has annoyed me from the moment i thought of it.

i think that this was unfairly closed.
the simple fact that the vast majority of soldiers that die in combat are poor is worthy of discussion.
it seems like its an obvious thing,but the very fact that it is obvious makes it intensely depressing.
that people who have no idea what they are fighting for will fight other people who have no idea what they are fighting for just for the profit of their rulers.

You really are clueless. First of all, the majority of PEOPLE are poor and in developed countries the majority are what? AVERAGE.

Now look at history of every nation of every civilization, look at the warlords of today in Africa and other places. People like to what? F_ _ _ _. Just dont fall for the bullshit and there wont be any problems.

You really are clueless. First of all, the majority of PEOPLE are poor and in developed countries the majority are what? AVERAGE.

Now look at history of every nation of every civilization, look at the warlords of today in Africa and other places. People like to what? F_ _ _ _. Just dont fall for the bullshit and there wont be any problems.


ok,im going to ignore yet another insult from you and try to respond to your post.

what bullshit am i falling for?

talking about warlords you are shining a magnifying glass on exactly what i am talking about.a person or small group of people who exploit many people for their own ends.convince poor people to die to further a cause that will have little to no benifit for themselves.

In my experience, today's soldiers are of above-average intelligence. I've worked with 3 in recent years. Two were unquestionably very smart people. One was maybe less so - but by no means dumb - who read constantly in an effort to improve himself.

Most people go into the army, not with the express intention of running riot killing people, but because it provides a very varied and interesting career with lots of opportunities - if you survive long enough. The fact is that, if you're not frightened of a bit of danger, it's a smart career choice in many ways.

In my experience, today's soldiers are of above-average intelligence. I've worked with 3 in recent years. Two were unquestionably very smart people. One was maybe less so - but by no means dumb - who read constantly in an effort to improve himself.

Most people go into the army, not with the express intention of running riot killing people, but because it provides a very varied and interesting career with lots of opportunities - if you survive long enough. The fact is that, if you're not frightened of a bit of danger, it's a smart career choice in many ways.

note for the record:
i am in no way calling soldiers dumb.

Hmm.. I think not being afraid of obvious danger is a sign something being wrong. I think soldiers are afraid of danger, they just suppress the thought of it or are lied to when they make the step to join the army.
Alternatively, some may have psychological problems.. but I guess they test for that.

Well, obviously I wouldn't start such a thread unless I had alot to say on it.

The reason I started it with that scandalous statement was to get you al thinking, and get a heated debate going. Then I'd express the rest of my opinions and get much more into detail.

Obviously the Admins here are toodumb to realize the realness of the fact stupid people are culled. I planned to add alot to it, but there is to much sensorship.

Admins... you already know what I think of you, and there is no need to express it.

Well, obviously I wouldn't start such a thread unless I had alot to say on it.

The reason I started it with that scandalous statement was to get you al thinking, and get a heated debate going. Then I'd express the rest of my opinions and get much more into detail.

Obviously the Admins here are toodumb to realize the realness of the fact stupid people are culled. I planned to add alot to it, but there is to much sensorship.

Admins... you already know what I think of you, and there is no need to express it.

Isn't it a fact the uneducated or lower educated people get more children on average than highly educated people ?

Obviously the Admins here are toodumb to realize the realness of the fact stupid people are


I "realize the realness" of what you were saying, its just the manner in which you stated it was clearly untrue. If you said "why are the majority of soldiers poor and uneducated", then backed it up with some kind of proof then your thread would still be open me thinks.

Hmm.. I think not being afraid of obvious danger is a sign something being wrong. I think soldiers are afraid of danger, they just suppress the thought of it or are lied to when they make the step to join the army.
.

not even that,think of how many people's hobbies or occupations are potentially fatal.its just a certain personality type that can deal with it.
i couldnt snowboard down a 60 degree slope or tightrope a gorge but i dont think that people who would are deficient.


on the topic of the thread close,i think its kind of weird that a thread with the most offensive jokes ever and a thread about how a moderator hates certain people can be allowed to stay open but a thread like barbie girls can be closed.

The joke thread is Cesspooled

The joke thread is Cesspooled

but not locked

not even that,think of how many people's hobbies or occupations are potentially fatal.its just a certain personality type that can deal with it.
i couldnt snowboard down a 60 degree slope or tightrope a gorge but i dont think that people who would are deficient.
Hmm yes, but I really do think that those people suppress the thought of actual danger. It's like driving a car.. everyone knows it's inherently dangerous but we do it anyway. "It won't happen to me" etc..

on the topic of the thread close,i think its kind of weird that a thread with the most offensive jokes ever and a thread about how a moderator hates certain people can be allowed to stay open but a thread like barbie girls can be closed.
I advice you to give it up, it's not worth it and it'll get you nowhere..

but not locked

There is no real discussion to jokes. Was this thread a joke?

note for the record:
i am in no way calling soldiers dumb.
Well, I suppose I was responding more to blabbygirl's original post more than yours.

Yes, most soldiers are poor. Or rather: few are rich. And no, this isn't an accident.

Hmm yes, but I really do think that those people suppress the though of actual danger. It's like driving a car.. everyone knows it's inherently dangerous but we do it anyway. "It won't happen to me" etc..


I advice you to give it up, it's not worth it and it'll get you nowhere..


but the danger is often the rush.the feeling you get after you have acomplished something is often tied to the risk involved in doing it.
2 examples.
1 from me:asking a girl who i have liked for ages and ages on date
1 from a boarder: doing a backflip over a ridge on a fucking massive mountain.

different people get it from different places.


on the subject of the thread close..............i know,and its depressing.i sometimes wonder who's running this site

There is no real discussion to jokes. Was this thread a joke?

um.,no?

Well, I suppose I was responding more to blabbygirl's original post more than yours.

Yes, most soldiers are poor. Or rather: few are rich. And no, this isn't an accident.

exactly.

a quote from wellington during the battle of waterloo when a gun battery had napoleon in its sights and wanted to fire on him

"it is not the business of leaders to fire upon each other"

(that quote is from memory so probably not word for word but the meaning is there)

but the danger is often the rush.the feeling you get after you have acomplished something is often tied to the risk involved in doing it.
2 examples.
1 from me:asking a girl who i have liked for ages and ages on date
1 from a boarder: doing a backflip over a ridge on a fucking massive mountain.

different people get it from different places.


on the subject of the thread close..............i know,and its depressing.i sometimes wonder who's running this site

Yes but when they actually do get into an accident they often stop doing it all together.
They like the rush but don't really think something bad will happen.
It's more like the chance of something happening that causes the rush.
If they knew for a fact that they would get hurt they wouldn't do it.

Yes but when they actually do get into an accident they often stop doing it all together.
They like the rush but don't really think something bad will happen.
It's more like the chance of something happening that causes the rush.
If they knew for a fact that they would get hurt they wouldn't do it.

often.
stats?

most of the pro-boarders (substitute this for any dangerous sport) have had multiple injuries and keep going.

infact (anecdotal but i assume true) an australian pro-bike rider had his hand broken so many times that the bones had to be fused.the shape he chose?that which he could grip the throttle with!

Yes but when they actually do get into an accident they often stop doing it all together.
They like the rush but don't really think something bad will happen.
It's more like the chance of something happening that causes the rush.
If they knew for a fact that they would get hurt they wouldn't do it.
Total rubbish. Snowboarders love boarding with legs in plaster. It's a man thing.

I'm not talking about a few broken bones..

Anyway, some people really deserve the Darwin award.. of course there are those as well.

well if they die....they pretty much have to stop

well if they die....they pretty much have to stop

No, I mean serious trauma.
Anyway, you are focusing on one particular statement of mine. I also said this:
Alternatively, some may have psychological problems..
And this:
Anyway, some people really deserve the Darwin award.. of course there are those as well.

No, I mean serious trauma.
Also meaning they pretty much have to stop. You said (I'm paraphrasing): injury instils fear, to the point where people are afraid to continue. It doesn't.

Also meaning they pretty much have to stop. You said (I'm paraphrasing): injury instils fear, to the point where people are afraid to continue. It doesn't.

Nope I get hurt all the time a couple times I have been seiously injured while on a bike, it never stopped me though.

Also meaning they pretty much have to stop. You said (I'm paraphrasing): injury instils fear, to the point where people are afraid to continue. It doesn't.

Then there is something wrong with them.

Originally Posted by Enmos
Alternatively, some may have psychological problems..


dude,we all have very serious psychological problems,if you want to define thrill seeking as one of them.be my guest

Originally Posted by Enmos
Alternatively, some may have psychological problems..


dude,we all have very serious psychological problems,if you want to define thrill seeking as one of them.be my guest

LOL fair enough :D

Nope I get hurt all the time a couple times I have been seiously injured while on a bike, it never stopped me though.

What caused the serious injury ? Not just riding your bike, right ?

What caused the serious injury ? Not just riding your bike, right ?

Well My brakes stopped working and I went over a ledge and crashed into sharp rocks and thorns, then the bike fell on me, hit me in my face and somehow the kickstand went through my ankle and broke the bone :shrug:

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i think that this was unfairly closed.

We actually do have a process for that very complaint. Whining about it in EM&J is not on the list. See "Complaining about Moderators (http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=79023)" for the basic overview.

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