So This is Why We Bailed Out the Auto Industry?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by sandy, Feb 20, 2010.

  1. sandy Banned Banned

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    To give the CEO's $9 MILLION pay packages? WTF?

    GM CEO Ed Whitacre gets a $9 MILLION pay package as the USA is bankrupt beyond oblivion. So this is why the taxpayer's money was used? To bail out the auto industry, turn GM into Government Motors, and give the CEO a salary of almost $2 million/year?
    Former CEO Fritz Henderson was rehired at $60,000/month for 20 hours.

    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/GM-CEO-Whitacre-receives-9M-apf-362235582.html?x=0&.v=5

    I have nothing against CEO's getting big bucks but not on taxpayer/bailout money.
     
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  3. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    Now you understand some of the liberal anger at obama and showing it yourself.
     
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  5. stateofmind seeker of lies Valued Senior Member

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    It really makes you question whether the government could be so stupid to fall for such an idiotic solution or whether it was really just a plan to get the rich richer and the poor poorer.
     
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  7. Pinwheel Banned Banned

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    It really makes you question whether the government is really separate from the corporate world.
     
  8. sandy Banned Banned

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    Yes, I do understand it. Part of the auto industry bailout should have been no salaries over 100k for at least 5 years or until the BILLIONS of dollars in loans were paid back. This was a slap in the face of the American taxpayer. You don't reward someone for trashing their company. You let it fail and let capitalism do its thing. Let the free market work. Let someone come in and buy it up for pennies on the dollar and rebuild it. NOT give it billions in taxpayer money only to reward the failures.
     
  9. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    the free market doesn't work, love.
     
  10. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    The free market does work, for only those who are wealthy.
     
  11. Pinwheel Banned Banned

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    The usual response to this is "Well, we nver really had a free market. If only we could give it a try!"
     
  12. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    part of the reason I am begining to view the free market as a form of religion. the rejection of anything but the theoritical ideal is pretty much a faith based asseration IMO
     
  13. Repo Man Valued Senior Member

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    Ah yes, return to the utopia that was the nineteenth century.
     
  14. Pasta Registered Senior Member

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    I have a feeling the GM bailout was more to support the labor union jobs than to help the corporation.
     
  15. PieAreSquared Woo is resistant to reason Registered Senior Member

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    too bad the money didn't go to R&D and Detroit started to build cars that aren't a POS
     
  16. Repo Man Valued Senior Member

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    That's the beauty of it; Austrian school types can always trace back any failings of the market to some prior government interference (distortion). Since there is no way any sane country is ever going to allow a true devil take the hindmost completely unregulated marketplace, they will always have a ready excuse for any failure.
     
  17. stateofmind seeker of lies Valued Senior Member

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    I don't think the type of market matters so much. A public that's ignorant and apathetic will get it up the rear and a public that tries to be conscious and aware of where the product comes from and how its produced get what they want.
     
  18. nietzschefan Thread Killer Valued Senior Member

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    But it always happens. So there cannot be a truly "free" market just like there is never "true" communism.

    Basically because whoever is in charge doesn't really want freedom OR truth. Irregardless of the economic or political system.
     
  19. sandy Banned Banned

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    I disagree. The free market has always worked. Capitalism is a big part of what made this country great/prosperous.

    Good point. All we have are Japanese and Italian..
     
  20. Bells Staff Member

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    Indeed, look at the banks for example.
     
  21. stateofmind seeker of lies Valued Senior Member

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    No, you're thinking of slaves - it was slaves that made this country great/prosperous.
     
  22. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    Nonsense. Nothing is more efficient than the free market; in the free market, people can make decisions based on results and logic, and they can invest into areas of interest.


    Centralized planning doesn't work. Just compare East Germany with West Germany.


    Your statement that "the free market doesn't work" is utter bullshit.
     
  23. sandy Banned Banned

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    Banks were just fine until they were forced to make loans to people who should have NEVER had them.
     

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