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science man
11-08-09, 01:27 AM
what do you think it is? Mine will be chioce A
Purpose of life is twice-fold: to fulfill biological purpose (sex) and to develop (evolve) spiritual progress (of a soul).
Other: There is no purpose to life.
People can adopt a personal purpose for their own life though, which can be damn near anything.
Bishadi
11-08-09, 07:51 AM
Purpose of life is twice-fold: to fulfill biological purpose (sex) and to develop (evolve) spiritual progress (of a soul).
life: purposed to continue
procreation; instinct
about as perfect of FACT as any NEED to verify
ie.... when one can PROVE that procreation (cell division) is not biological and natural, then please present the evidence.
glaucon
11-08-09, 02:41 PM
As Enmos has said: Other. Purpose is entirely contingent.
science man
11-08-09, 02:43 PM
Purpose of life is twice-fold: to fulfill biological purpose (sex) and to develop (evolve) spiritual progress (of a soul).
life: purposed to continue
procreation; instinct
about as perfect of FACT as any NEED to verify
ie.... when one can PROVE that procreation (cell division) is not biological and natural, then please present the evidence.
so basically you guys are saying that the purpose of someone's life is to get with someone of the oppossite sex and have chillren. Well that sucks.
Bishadi
11-09-09, 08:50 AM
so basically you guys are saying that the purpose of someone's life is to get with someone of the oppossite sex and have chillren. Well that sucks.
that happens too
but without that copulation, you wouldn't be here
take that, you, no be U, without it
imagine, how many species would not be here, without that INSTINCTIVE nature of LIFE.
or shall we all assume, it's just an accident, that biological life continues beyond EVERY extinction so far?
i follow natures way before 'belief' ;)
as all "belief" is man created
shichimenshyo
11-09-09, 09:19 AM
The purpose of life is to ensure life continues on after you die.
Bishadi
11-09-09, 09:47 AM
The purpose of life is to ensure life continues on after you die.
which is almost perfect
ie... shares that life is not just being an 'i'
so if, i procreate and live into the next generation, then the FACT reveals itself; life is not being an 'i' (awake)
that life, can exist BEYOND THE GRAVE
it's basic
any other example?
deicider
11-09-09, 10:00 AM
Yup,its one of those biocentric bs that a science forum has to endure.
shichimenshyo
11-09-09, 10:06 AM
Yup,its one of those biocentric bs that a science forum has to endure.
Explain?
Grim_Reaper
11-09-09, 10:13 AM
Purpose of Life let me see
Likely to procreate, live, Die then either be cremated or rot in a box. Personally I would like to be freeze dried in the seated position with a remote on my hand then sat on the couch for all to see. But Alas that is not a option at this time.
This is what I feel life in about.
shichimenshyo
11-09-09, 10:28 AM
google the words u dont understand
That's is not the purpose of a discussion forum, perhaps you should backup your statement with some type of supporting sentences instead of just calling something bullshit. Why don't you give me something that we can discuss, then....we can discuss it!
For example...why is a Biocentric theory BS, I could use some explanation.
deicider
11-09-09, 10:47 AM
My back up is everything u see around u,the proof is everywhere,use ur logic.
clevercatchphrase
11-09-09, 10:53 AM
Other:
We are a species that has evolved to survive changing weather, blamed a "higher power" for the evolution, and we continue just like every other animal:
Birth, grow, reproduce, raise the young, age, die to make room for the newborns.
Process of elimination, it shows how small we really are.
Bishadi
11-09-09, 11:17 AM
Other:
We are a species that has evolved to survive changing weather, blamed a "higher power" for the evolution, and we continue just like every other animal:
Birth, grow, reproduce, raise the young, age, die to make room for the newborns.
Process of elimination, it shows how small we really are.
but then again, the little ones can make a huge impact as well; galilleo, darwin, and even 'shorty' (confucius)
seems what they DID, still lives
shichimenshyo
11-09-09, 11:44 AM
My back up is everything u see around u,the proof is everywhere,use ur logic.
That isn't even a coherent argument in the least. Try again.;)
Other: There is no purpose to life.
People can adopt a personal purpose for their own life though, which can be damn near anything.So you would never look at someone and think they are wasting their life?
thinking
11-09-09, 01:14 PM
why is it necessary to give a purpose to life , other than it can manifest when the conditions are right to become ?
thinking
11-09-09, 01:25 PM
now since life is here the only purpose of life , to us Humans is our survival and to believe in ourselves
so its not so much about the purpose of life in and of its self , as it is the believe in Humankind devoid of any religion
Bishadi
11-09-09, 01:32 PM
why is it necessary to give a purpose to life , other than it can manifest when the conditions are right to become ?
who gives life a purpose?
why not be scientific and observe what it does and describe it?
so describe why the instinct of living things is to procreate?
Is it based on reductions (chemically speaking)?
thinking
11-09-09, 01:43 PM
“ Originally Posted by thinking
why is it necessary to give a purpose to life , other than it can manifest when the conditions are right to become ?
who gives life a purpose?
Humanity
why not be scientific and observe what it does and describe it?
why not , indeed
so describe why the instinct of living things is to procreate?
life has an energy unto its self
Is it based on reductions (chemically speaking)?
no
Bishadi
11-09-09, 02:51 PM
Humanity perhaps nature itself?
whereas mankind describes that process which enables us all to comprehend what nature shares (ie...nature 'exists' and humanity offers definitions to observe)
why not , indeed
life has an energy unto its self
no
you must hold a wealth of knowledge to sustain such answers.
perhaps i can learn more from thinking souls (of life)
:bawl:
purpose?
life = to be alive.
that must be the only purpose.
Bishadi
11-09-09, 03:34 PM
purpose?
life = to be alive.
but we 'be' when we know we an 'it'
so to be alive, is being alive (point in time)
but to have purpose, is doing...right? (action)
and 'to be alive' is already evidenced
to 'do' for to sustain, would be the purpose, right?
kind of like; the wave in a pond is not stagnant, by definition of wave, it suggests motion (in action) right?
any good philo guys, (i am too simply educated to recall/remember all the big words for these)
bishadi, seems to me like you wish you had wrote that.;)
thinking
11-09-09, 03:41 PM
purpose?
life = to be alive.
that must be the only purpose.
I don't follow
how does life = to be alive , give purpose to life ?
you'll just have to think about it.
the question has been answered.
thinking
11-09-09, 03:44 PM
the question has been answered.
where and by whom ?
thinking
11-09-09, 03:46 PM
by me.:)
in what posts
Bishadi
11-09-09, 03:48 PM
bishadi, seems to me like you wish you had wrote that.;)
been nice if reality was available when i was a kid....
perhaps another will learn and share and when the evolution furthers in a few billion years maybe half the BS will be extinct
i look at it, that if trial and error is a good method of learning; then anyone can evolve over time, if they stay at it but the pinnacle is when each can understand the concepts equally, on the first pass.
Imagine being able to understand the "purpose of life", as a child and comprehend everything from evolution to genetics, just with addditional information but always relevant to existence.
Imagine being able to tell your kids, "hey what up on the grand babies? Don't you want your parents to live longer?" and both of you know exactly what it means.
bishadi, it just seems to me that people are too self absorbed. it is good in one way but we need to keep things in perspective.
thinking
11-09-09, 03:57 PM
[QUOTE=Bishadi;2409226]been nice if reality was available when i was a kid....
perhaps another will learn and share and when the evolution furthers in a few billion years maybe half the BS will be extinct
i look at it, that if trial and error is a good method of learning; then anyone can evolve over time, if they stay at it but the pinnacle is when each can understand the concepts equally, on the first pass.
Imagine being able to understand the "purpose of life", as a child and comprehend everything from evolution to genetics, just with addditional information but always relevant to existence.
Imagine being able to tell your kids, "hey what up on the grand babies? Don't you want your parents to live longer?" and both of you know exactly what it means.
so then the purpose of life becomes a Human definition
as it should be
Bishadi
11-09-09, 04:02 PM
[QUOTE]
so then the purpose of life becomes a Human definition
instinctive; natural
ie... all life has 'purpose' (to continue)
'we the people' just defining so others, ourselves, tomorrow, the future; can understand that
and the sooner the better
Bishadi
11-09-09, 04:04 PM
bishadi, it just seems to me that people are too self absorbed.
ie.... mankind likes its toys; mother nature don't
it is good in one way but we need to keep things in perspective.
and to comprehend with purpose, assists in understanding 'good and bad'
spidergoat
11-09-09, 04:06 PM
All purposes are relative. Life's inherent purpose is only relative to the structure of the genes. Like the universe itself, meaning depends on your frame of reference.
ie.... mankind likes its toys; mother nature don't
mother nature sees all creatures as toys.
thinking
11-09-09, 04:11 PM
so then the purpose of life becomes a Human definition
[QUOTE=thinking;2409236]
instinctive; natural
ie... all life has 'purpose' (to continue)
'we the people' just defining so others, ourselves, tomorrow, the future; can understand that
and the sooner the better
instinctive is not a purpose , neither is " to continue " other than to life its self
thinking
11-09-09, 04:14 PM
there is no single purpose of life , it just can be
only Humanity can give purpose to life
Bishadi
11-09-09, 04:17 PM
[QUOTE=Bishadi;2409242]
instinctive is not a purpose sure it is
the same 'purpose to continue' is found in observing the instinctive traits of any life (consume, reproduce; to continue (life))
, " to continue " other than to life its self
exactly
life: purposed to continue
did not say, what the purpose is, but that once started is will continue by its nature
tap a pond, are you gonna stop that wave? Likewise, you don't know the wave until it is started.
Bishadi
11-09-09, 04:23 PM
there is no single purpose of life , it just can be
you mean 'it exists'
it just can be, doesn't make sense
life, it just can be......(that's not sweet)
only Humanity can give purpose to life to the mind of
to give purpose to conscious awareness of life (ie..we can give purpose to an employee by offering a paycheck)
enabling a mind to know 'its' purpose are by words, knowledge, teaching
so humanity can enable a purpose to conscious life (i can see that)
thinking
11-09-09, 04:49 PM
“ Originally Posted by thinking
there is no single purpose of life , it just can be ”
you mean 'it exists'
I mean it can exist under the right circumstances
it just can be, doesn't make sense
why ?
life, it just can be......(that's not sweet)
the Universe just is and it does what it does based on the physics of energy/matter in that space
thats all
thinking
11-09-09, 04:57 PM
the Universe does not care about circumstances , things etc
the Universe just is
that is why I said that the purpose of life is of our own making
we must understand this and accept this fact
only then will we come to relise that we must depend on ourselves , Humanity , to survive , no god(s) allowed
but we don't think in terms of the Universal picture because nothing has happened , out there , to force us to think otherwise , yet
Bishadi
11-09-09, 04:59 PM
I mean it can exist under the right circumstances
ie... the process can exist
why ? stagnant (that set of wording)
the Universe just is but never stag
and it does what it does based on the physics of energy/matter in that space
thats all today's physics do not convey how it works; although they trying real hard
again, the idea of vacuum is just a word as none exists anywhere
which shares the 'process' is always involved
life: purposed (once started) to continue
we as mankind can observe the process, but cannot experience anything outside of the process (the total) except via imagination (a process in itself)
we are always a part of (schroadingers cat)
thinking
11-09-09, 05:08 PM
“ Originally Posted by thinking
I mean it can exist under the right circumstances ”
ie... the process can exist
life does exist , this planet is evidence that living things do exist and evolve
thinking
11-09-09, 05:10 PM
“ why ? ”
stagnant (that set of wording)
explain further
thinking
11-09-09, 05:15 PM
“
the Universe just is ”
but never stag
agreed
hence my point
asteriods , comets can all change our state of existence
Bishadi
11-09-09, 05:23 PM
life does exist , this planet is evidence that living things do exist and evolve
and to say 'that is life' then the process is in action for that 'it'
just like the universe
Bishadi
11-09-09, 05:25 PM
explain further
“ Originally Posted by thinking
there is no single purpose of life , it just can be ”
it can be, but once identified as 'life', then it is 'of purpose' (on the run so to speak; like a flame)
thinking
11-09-09, 05:27 PM
“ and it does what it does based on the physics of energy/matter in that space
thats all ”
today's physics do not convey how it works; although they trying real hard
they are
again, the idea of vacuum is just a word as none exists anywhere
true
which shares the 'process' is always involved
not sure what you mean here
explain further
life: purposed (once started) to continue
true
we as mankind can observe the process, but cannot experience anything outside of the process (the total) except via imagination (a process in itself)
again not sure what you mean here
so explain further
but by observation ?
we are always a part of (schroadingers cat)
the schroaders cat paradox is basicly though the lack of confidence of the out come , which , using sound Reason , should be obvious
Bishadi
11-09-09, 09:37 PM
thinking, if we identify a life, then is that 'it' in a process of life?
if yes, then which shares the 'process' is always involved
and since we live within 'universe'
then as well: we as mankind can observe the process, but cannot experience anything outside of the process (the total) except via imagination (a process in itself)
meaning; there is no void, (reality) anywhere (we exist within the 'processes')
Go with what you know...
To live life in the physical form, is the gift of life, the one you live.
We procreate, the birth of life, beginning, soul, new energy.
This planet is here to live that life in the physical form, air, water, food, etc.
The planet which is for EVERYONE to live that life, as a whole. Which tells us we are all here for each other, to learn and grow (the mind).
The only difference in who we are from the day we were born till the day we die is what we think. More importantly, is what we're fed.
The main purpose for all this to happen is to preserve, nourish and care for the planet so that life can continue its purpose.
To make copies of oneself.
We live, we die and then everything is finished .
No purpose and no goal at all .
Some die when they are one day, some at one week, some at one month.....and some at 100 years .
Evolution is the biggest crap the scientific community agreed on .
Darwin fooled millions who believed him .
Life is so complex that no one fully understands it at 100% .
We all keep on guessing until we die one day .
Bishadi
11-13-09, 07:47 AM
We live, we die and then everything is finished .
No purpose and no goal at all .
Some die when they are one day, some at one week, some at one month.....and some at 100 years .
Evolution is the biggest crap the scientific community agreed on .
Darwin fooled millions who believed him .
Life is so complex that no one fully understands it at 100% .
We all keep on guessing until we die one day .
Mike, take a rest......
picking on evolution is like suggestin you can't learn (evolve with greater comprehension)
and if you have no purpose, then why do you breath?
None.
Only thing that comes close to a singular purpose of a singular life, would be to learn and to pass the knowledge. This is what DNA, the coding structure of life, does.
Once we go wild and declare DNA as a superhero with a purpose, we are on sci-fi territory since a purpose and an origin of purpose highly contradicts with the random process in which DNA passes its knowledge.
superstring01
11-14-09, 11:18 AM
I selected the first option. I was wrong.
The essential purpose of life is to survive and reproduce more life.
The secondary purpose of life is to improve itself.
We're intelligent life, so our purpose has transcended those mere points. Yeah, they are essential, but we've evolved to find purpose in other areas. We choose those paths. There is no one single "purpose" for every person.
~String
Bishadi
11-15-09, 10:04 AM
I selected the first option. I was wrong.
The essential purpose of life is to survive and reproduce more life.
The secondary purpose of life is to improve itself.
We're intelligent life, so our purpose has transcended those mere points. Yeah, they are essential, but we've evolved to find purpose in other areas. We choose those paths. There is no one single "purpose" for every person.
~String
how about 'to continue'
natures way
and all them tangents are foolish (ie... mankind likes its toys; nature doesn't)
and although trial and error is natural (see extinctions), the progression of knowledge often creates a turn over of priorities.
to understand life and the 'natural' purpose 'to continue' then being aware of the 'purpose' enables the proper alignment of choices.
ie... for us to live and enable nasties that exist and continue beyond our period of choice, is in essense, creating and leaving a 'loss to the common'
in contrast, to plant a grove a trees, they will live beyond your term, but be a good (support life to continue)
and then each live in what they leave (their wake) and had/have the choice
kind of weird but bound to reality, not belief
I believe that my purpose is to support others and help them be the best they can be. During this process, I always learn and I believe I become a better person in return. We are all connected.
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Pipes75
11-16-09, 01:33 PM
The purpose of Life is to enjoy living!
But it should not come at the expense of others.
Respect all, Love unconditionally, and don't judge others.
Life goes on - so take the ups with the downs, and enjoy all the moments, even when we are low, we can be reminded of the high times.
quantum_wave
11-29-09, 06:25 AM
Hi Scienceman. IMHO there is no simple answer so my one liner is:
The purpose of life is to find your own purpose, to have faith that you will find the right one, and to be thankful that we have the circumstances that even allow us to consider the question and seek ours out.
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