Life without seduction is a factory without production. How was that? :bugeye: The way to the vagina of any girl goes thru either her heart or her mind. You only need to determine first which way to go!! but you can not take two pathes at the same time, thats the fourth law of thermodynamics Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! But to take either of the two ways, you need to use your mind and heart! ultimately you are going to use your body:bugeye: The way its done is composed of three stages, first to get to know (easy by just opening any normal subject). second stage is to make normal friendship, third is to turn the normal friendship into special friendship. anybody can add. I will be a student to anybody who add (who in english is used for males and females)!