Rejected for Jury Duty :(

[cluelusshusbund]

I figered they woud want the brightest an the bes... but befor i was rejected i saw about 5 of the people who was selected an they didnt seem all that intelegent an was wishy-washy in the answrs they gave... but as us rejects was leavin the Juge said... dont take it personal... i was once called for Jury duty an i was rejected.!!!

My theory is... if you want to serve on a jury... dont apear to have strong opinions... an be willin to change you'r pont of view when the Lawyers give you diferent esamples to consider durin ther "choosin" process.!!!

[darksidZz]

I've been rejected by all women I find attractive, jury duty rejection would be welcome!

[cluelusshusbund]

I've been rejected by all women I find attractive, jury duty rejection would be welcome!

Well i was disaponted... but after i got home it dawned on me that they wanted people they thout they coud mor easily manipulate.!!!

Well i guess this thred can handle 2 subjects at once... lol.!!!

To give me som idea of you'r situaton... how old are you... an give a short descripton of the mos successful relatonship youv'e had wit a woman.!!!!

[CutsieMarie89]

Why were you disappointed? Most people would jump for joy, do you have nothing else to do all day?

[Nasor]

Why were you disappointed? Most people would jump for joy, do you have nothing else to do all day?
I don't know how it is where you're from, but in many places rejected jurors go back into the pool and can expect to be very quickly called back for another fun day of hanging around the courthouse waiting to see if you'll actually be sitting for a case. Usually better to just get it over with...

If you have characteristics that make you likely to be rejected from any jury (if you're married to a cop or used to be a cop, for example) you can end up stuck in never-selected-but-constantly-called-back jury purgatory for a long time.

[CutsieMarie89]

I don't know how it is where you're from, but in many places rejected jurors go back into the pool and can expect to be very quickly called back for another fun day of hanging around the courthouse waiting to see if you'll actually be sitting for a case. Usually better to just get it over with...

If you have characteristics that make you likely to be rejected from any jury (if you're married to a cop or used to be a cop, for example) you can end up stuck in never-selected-but-constantly-called-back jury purgatory for a long time.

Where I'm from if you get rejected you can't get called back for another year.

[MacGyver1968]

Raise your hand if you want CH on your jury. :)


.....anybody? :)

[GeoffP]

Maybe. Did I do it or not?

[cluelusshusbund]

Why were you disappointed? Most people would jump for joy, do you have nothing else to do all day?

Yes i work 24/7/365 but the case sounded interestin... the woman got burned wit a medical instrument durin surgery... the burn got infected an she had to stay a couple estra days in the hospital... i woud have voated her to win her case but for a few hundred dolllars... not the few thousands she was likely wantin... botom line... i woud have tryed to be fare but not awarded her a windfall.!!!

[MacGyver1968]

Maybe. Did I do it or not?

Dictator of East Korea? Oh yeah...you did it....and smoked a cigar afterward. :)

http://www.sciforums.com/encyclopedia/East_Korea

[GeoffP]

Oh yeah.

Buh-duh-bah-doo BOW BOW

Ohhhhhh yeaaaaaaah.

Chick...chickchicka

[electro guitar now]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqY44Pl3MGc

[Absane]

I figered they woud want the brightest an the bes... but befor i was rejected i saw about 5 of the people who was selected an they didnt seem all that intelegent an was wishy-washy in the answrs they gave... but as us rejects was leavin the Juge said... dont take it personal... i was once called for Jury duty an i was rejected.!!!

My theory is... if you want to serve on a jury... dont apear to have strong opinions... an be willin to change you'r pont of view when the Lawyers give you diferent esamples to consider durin ther "choosin" process.!!!

Or you can serve on the Grand Jury like I did. The only disqualifying factors are that you're a criminal or mentally incompetent. Other than that, you can be an outspoken racist homophobe and still serve.

[cluelusshusbund]

Or you can serve on the Grand Jury like I did. The only disqualifying factors are that you're a criminal or mentally incompetent. Other than that, you can be an outspoken racist homophobe and still serve.

Why do you supose that is.???

[Absane]

Why do you supose that is.???

Because it isn't the Grand Jury's job to determine guilt or lack of guilt. Their job is to determine whether there is enough evidence to take the case to trial. So, your biases should be less pronounced.

Though, like Trial Juries, the Grand Jury has the power to intepret the law how they see fit. For example, the GJ could "no bill" a guy that undoubtedly murdered his wife and napalmed his place of work while snorting coke off a hooker's tits.

[cluelusshusbund]

Originally Posted by Absane
...on the Grand Jury...

...you can be an outspoken racist homophobe and still serve.

Why do you supose that is.???

Because it isn't the Grand Jury's job to determine guilt or lack of guilt. Their job is to determine whether there is enough evidence to take the case to trial. So, your biases should be less pronounced.


So how is it determined that an outspoken racist homophobe has less pronounced biases.???

[Absane]

So how is it determined that an outspoken racist homophobe has less pronounced biases.???

No one does this. The job of a Grand Juror is to determine whether there is enough evidence to take a case to trial or not. Their job isn't to make the connection between stereotypes of the individual involved in the crime and guilt or lack of guilt.

[cluelusshusbund]

Originally Posted by Absane
...on the Grand Jury...

...you can be an outspoken racist homophobe and still serve.

The job of a Grand Juror is to determine whether there is enough evidence to take a case to trial or not. Their job isn't to make the connection between stereotypes of the individual involved in the crime and guilt or lack of guilt.

So a white racist homophobe woud be qualified to determin if ther was enuff evidence to take a case to trial which involved a white surprimist whos charged wit beatin up a gay black guy.???

[Absane]

So a white racist homophobe woud be qualified to determin if ther was enuff evidence to take a case to trial which involved a white surprimist whos charged wit beatin up a gay black guy.???

Well, as I stated before... you also have to be mentally competent, too. This includes being somewhat intelligent.

But, yes.

In fact, you can be that way on trial jury, too. It's not very likely to happen because one of the lawyers will kick you off. Grand jury... no. You don't get off by coming in saying faggots should die.

[iceaura]

I got called for jury duty once just after I had started a new job teaching math part time at the local university - I was worried about missing work so soon, but the math department honcho told me I would never be seated on a jury, and would always be released in the morning and could make my classes - that no math teacher from the department had ever been seated on a jury. He was right - the lawyers for every case dismissed me immediately, and I never missed a class.

[Randwolf]

i woud have voated her to win her case but for a few hundred dolllars...

There you have it - clueless - I guess you didn't know that you're supposed to listen to the evidence and then debate the merits of the case with your fellow jurors...

Prior to deciding on guilt or innocence?

Now let's see... How to put this delicately?

The words you used in your post remind me of someone possessed of absolute, total and complete stupidity. You really live up to your name, don't you? :confused:

[cluelusshusbund]

Originally Posted by cluelusshusbund
i woud have voated her to win her case but for a few hundred dolllars... botom line... i woud have tryed to be fare but not awarded her a windfall.!!!

There you have it - clueless -

I guess you didn't know that you're supposed to listen to the evidence and then debate the merits of the case with your fellow jurors...

Prior to deciding on guilt or innocence?

...your post remind me of someone possessed of absolute, total and complete stupidity.

You really live up to your name, don't you? :confused:

Clam down :) i promise i woud have based my opinion on the evidence presented if i had been chosen for the Jury.!!!


Edit:::

Grand jury... no. You don't get off by coming in saying faggots should die.

Seems weird that such people ant weeded out sinse such biases coud effect ther ability to farely juge evidence.!!!

[christa]

i was told i needed to do jury duty when i was 3months preggers.. I didnt even go.. I was still dealing with BAD cases of morning sickness and school..just to end up in the hospital the next week haha

[John99]

Or you can serve on the Grand Jury like I did. The only disqualifying factors are that you're a criminal or mentally incompetent. Other than that, you can be an outspoken racist homophobe and still serve.

Not true.

[one_raven]

Why were you disappointed? Most people would jump for joy, do you have nothing else to do all day?

I enjoyed being on a Jury.
I didn't try to get out of it.
I was serving my civic duty and proud to do it.

[one_raven]

Yes i work 24/7/365 but the case sounded interestin... the woman got burned wit a medical instrument durin surgery... the burn got infected an she had to stay a couple estra days in the hospital... i woud have voated her to win her case but for a few hundred dolllars... not the few thousands she was likely wantin... botom line... i woud have tryed to be fare but not awarded her a windfall.!!!

But if you had already decided that you would vote for her, you couldn't have been fair, because your mind was already made up.
Regardless of how much you would have given her, you already decided that it was the defendant's fault.

[cluelusshusbund]

Originally Posted by cluelusshusbund
...the woman got burned wit a medical instrument durin surgery... the burn got infected an she had to stay a couple estra days in the hospital... i woud have voated her to win her case but for a few hundred dolllars... not the few thousands she was likely wantin... botom line... i woud have tryed to be fare but not awarded her a windfall.!!!

But if you had already decided that you would vote for her, you couldn't have been fair, because your mind was already made up.
Regardless of how much you would have given her, you already decided that it was the defendant's fault.

I wasnt on the jury an didnt hear any evidence... the tool mite have been a manufacture defect an not the Doctors fault which coud have been ponted out durin the trial... but if you thank i coudnt have made my decison based soley on the evidence... so be it.!!!

Hypothetical queston:::

If you had to make a decison based only on the outline of the case that i herd (above)... who woud you have desided in favor of... the woman or the surgen.???

[one_raven]

I wasnt on the jury an didnt hear any evidence...
Exactly, but you already said you would have voted for her.
Did you say something like that during the interview?

If you had to make a decison based only on the outline of the case that i herd (above)... who woud you have desided in favor of... the woman or the surgen.???

I wouldn't make the decision, because I don't know enough.

[Grim_Reaper]

I have never been selected for Jury duty and perhaps that my be due too my Pro Capital punishment shirt I wear to every Jury selection I have been too.

[cluelusshusbund]

Originally Posted by cluelusshusbund
...the woman got burned wit a medical instrument durin surgery... the burn got infected an she had to stay a couple estra days in the hospital... i woud have voated her to win her case but for a few hundred dolllars... not the few thousands she was likely wantin... botom line... i woud have tryed to be fare but not awarded her a windfall.!!!

I wasnt on the jury an didnt hear any evidence... the tool mite have been a manufacture defect an not the Doctors fault which coud have been ponted out durin the trial... but if you thank i coudnt have made my decison based soley on the evidence... so be it.!!!

Exactly, but you already said you would have voted for her.

Did you say something like that during the interview?


No... but thats my opinion based on the outline of the case.!!!


Hypothetical queston:::

If you had to make a decison based only on the outline of the case that i herd (above)... who woud you have desided in favor of... the woman or the surgen.???


I wouldn't make the decision, because I don't know enough.

Im not askin you to deside an actual case wit-out hearin any evidence... im askin you a hypothitical queston:::

"If you HAD to make a decison based only on the outline of the case that i herd (above)... who woud you have desided in favor of... the woman or the surgen.???"

[one_raven]

Im not askin you to deside an actual case wit-out hearin any evidence... im askin you a hypothitical queston:::

"If you HAD to make a decison based only on the outline of the case that i herd (above)... who woud you have desided in favor of... the woman or the surgen.???"

It's a silly question.
Would somebody hold a gun to my head and tell me I had to make a decision?
If so, I would say whatever I thought the crazy moron wanted to hear.
If not, I would refuse.

[Grim_Reaper]

Not to butt in however I would have voted for the surgeon there are way to many frivolous lawsuits gong around these days. I am sure the surgeon did not burn the lady on purpose and who is to say why and how the burn got infected. There are to many variables to be certain what happened but as I said on the outset I would have sided with the surgeon.

[John99]

Not to butt in however I would have voted for the surgeon there are way to many frivolous lawsuits gong around these days. I am sure the surgeon did not burn the lady on purpose and who is to say why and how the burn got infected. There are to many variables to be certain what happened but as I said on the outset I would have sided with the surgeon.

i would tend to agree. we dont know how bad this burn was but yeah poeple are often out to make a fast buck.

[cluelusshusbund]

It's a silly question.
Would somebody hold a gun to my head and tell me I had to make a decision?
If so, I would say whatever I thought the crazy moron wanted to hear.
If not, I would refuse.

Easy thar... no guns... lol... its simply a hypothetical queston you refuse to answr.!!!

I would have sided with the surgeon.

Well... aparently my hypothetical queston wasnt to dificult for everone :)

I woud loved to have herd the evidence in the case to know who i woud have sided wit... an like i suggested... the tool mite have been a manufacture defect an not the surgens fault at all.!!!

[quadraphonics]

I got called for jury duty once just after I had started a new job teaching math part time at the local university - I was worried about missing work so soon, but the math department honcho told me I would never be seated on a jury, and would always be released in the morning and could make my classes - that no math teacher from the department had ever been seated on a jury. He was right - the lawyers for every case dismissed me immediately, and I never missed a class.

Yeah, the one time I showed up for jury duty the very first question the lawyers asked was whether anyone had taken college-level chemistry or physics. None of those who had ended up on the jury.

However, I do know scientists and mathematicians who have ended up on juries, but only in cases where there was no real "technical" component to the evidence (BAC readings, DNA tests, whatever); just witness testimony affairs.

In my experience, the surest way to get dismissed from jury duty is simply to over-talk in response to the screening questions. Get worked up and blather a bunch (should be easy for SciForumsers), and make them ask you at least twice to stop talking. Repeat yourself if you run out of things to say - or even if you haven't. Neither lawyer wants an argumentative ass with a pet agenda on the jury; they can't be controlled, or even reliably predicted and compensated for.

[John99]

Yeah, the one time I showed up for jury duty the very first question the lawyers asked was whether anyone had taken college-level chemistry or physics. None of those who had ended up on the jury.
.

must have been something related to the case otherwise i cant see why that would be asked.

[Grim_Reaper]

Easy thar... no guns... lol... its simply a hypothetical queston you refuse to answr.!!!



Well... aparently my hypothetical queston wasnt to dificult for everone :)

I woud loved to have herd the evidence in the case to know who i woud have sided wit... an like i suggested... the tool mite have been a manufacture defect an not the surgens fault at all.!!!

Only reason I said that was because I feel we are to much of a litigious society and that a lot of Lawsuits are not necessary in anyway.

[Ahem]

I was rejected for jury duty.

The judge asked we, the potential jurors, to raise our hand if we had alcoholic beverages in our home. I was the only one who didn't raise their hand.

The judge asked me why. Was I an alcoholic? I said, "No. I'm a single parent and can't afford much more than necessities. I always had milk in the house though." Then he asked me if I allowed alcohol in my home, to which I replied, "Well, if you came over for dinner and brought a bottle of wine, there would be alcohol in my home; at least until we drank it all."

The defendant was a young drunken driver who ran into a fence, I think. Her law suite was two-fold. They were looking for jurors who drank on a regular basis and may have empathy for their client's "mistake". I was rejected by her attorney. BAH!

[one_raven]

The jury I was foreman of was like "12 Angry Men". I swayed all 11 away from what they wanted to do. It was great!

[CutsieMarie89]

I enjoyed being on a Jury.
I didn't try to get out of it.
I was serving my civic duty and proud to do it.

Can't argue with you there, I've never served. Nor would I want to get behind in school and work for doing so.

[nietzschefan]

One way out , is to just not show up. Seriously it works.

[Absane]

One way out , is to just not show up. Seriously it works.

I hear that more people get away with doing that than we would think.