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Orleander
06-29-09, 01:13 PM
WTF!!! They don't sell this product in the US, at least not that I've ever seen. Is it needed? What for?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXR-LdBUzMk&feature=related

http://www.bytheplanet.com/itemgraphics/300px/251134.jpg

tuberculatious
06-29-09, 01:19 PM
looks like a sexual device.

Orleander
06-29-09, 01:20 PM
Looks like what I would use to water flowers, not pour water up my nose
Who does that????

tuberculatious
06-29-09, 01:23 PM
are you sure it isn't a sexual device?

jpappl
06-29-09, 01:23 PM
8 years ago I started to get allergies in the spring and fall, for 5 years I would get these sinus infections.

The doctor would put me on antibiotics and tell me to use this nose spray that cost like $ 25 a pop. Every year I would get them and they started to get worse and more frequent, each time the same remedy was prescribed.

I finally got sick of being sick and started to research on my own, looking for others with the same experience and wondered what they did to resolve it.

Turns out that the antibiotics only make it worse in the long run as they weaken the immune system and the nose sprays never helped at all.

The solution. Get a water nose pump bottle, put a little salt and baking soda in and at the first sign of sinus issues related to allergies, pump the water in one side then the other.

I have been using the pump salt water solution now for 3 years with no infections and a massive decrease in the effect of the allergy. Whenever I mow the lawn or am out weeding I take a shower and use the pump. During the fall months with the mold, I do the same.

It has cured the major sinus issues and allows me to control the affects of the allergic reactions to the point it is hardly noticeable.

I used to take a lot of decongestants and antihistamines but now I take about 3-4 a year at most just when I need a little extra help and that is very rare.

It has save me a ton of money as well. The bottle is re-usable up to 6 months and cost about $ 5 to buy.

tuberculatious
06-29-09, 01:25 PM
where is the pump. i just see holes.

jpappl
06-29-09, 01:27 PM
This is the one I use.

http://www.achooallergy.com/images/prod/1114.jpg

Way easier than using the neti pot. Use it in the shower.

tuberculatious
06-29-09, 01:29 PM
the other one is probably used more by ladies.

Orleander
06-29-09, 01:36 PM
so basically its a douche for the nose?

jpappl
06-29-09, 01:46 PM
so basically its a douche for the nose?

Yep.

Orleander
06-29-09, 01:48 PM
but doctors don't recommend them saying it messes with the natural body secretions. Why isn't it the same with the nose?

jpappl
06-29-09, 01:57 PM
but doctors don't recommend them saying it messes with the natural body secretions. Why isn't it the same with the nose?

Doctors didn't recommend the pump to me because imo they were selling drugs instead. There was a simple fix that either they didn't know about or felt obliged to support the drug companies. Either way they did not do the job I expected of them for 5 years.

My only regret is that it took me so long to question what they were offering as a fix.

The funny thing is that I had reached the end of my rope on the issue and had an appointment with a specialist to inquire about surgery options. But I found the pump and started using it before I met the doctor. I went anyway and explained what I was doing.

He looked at me and said, so how is that working for you. I said it seems to have solved the issues. He acted like I found a trade unspoken secret or something and said sometimes the simpliest fixes are the best and said he doesn't recommend surgery and that I should keep using the pump.

LOL.

Orleander
06-29-09, 01:59 PM
My husband has sinus infections every month. He has had 2 surgeries. I guess I'll tell him about this option.
How do you not cough and choke?

jpappl
06-29-09, 02:18 PM
Yea, unfortunately they used to do the surgeries all the time but found out that they just come back regardless.

In the shower, what I do is kneel down and lean my head forward. If the water is going back down your throat your not leaning forward enough.

Basically, not to be too graphic. It goes up one side and comes out the other. Clear yourself and then do the other side.

It also works great if you have been doing construction work/drywall sanding etc to clear out debris. Which is the whole idea, to flush out the irritants that you body is overreacting to.

When I first started using it, I had still had an infection. What I understood is that you put one teaspoon of hydrogen peroxide per 1 cup of water. It burnt like hell but the infection disappeared after about 2 days of this. Never came back.

I don't use it year round or all the time, just as needed and then I stay with it for a few days. It tends to create it's own congestion for a few days but that goes away and is not the same as having allergic reactions to irritants.

Good luck to him, they can be debillitating.

Orleander
06-29-09, 02:20 PM
....When I first started using it, I had still had an infection. What I understood is that you put one teaspoon of hydrogen peroxide per 1 cup of water. It burnt like hell but the infection disappeared after about 2 days of this. Never came back.

I don't use it year round or all the time, just as needed and then I stay with it for a few days. It tends to create it's own congestion for a few days but that goes away and is not the same as having allergic reactions to irritants.

Good luck to him, they can be debillitating.

As needed? How do you know you need it? And what do you mean by this?

iceaura
06-29-09, 02:40 PM
My wife uses that Neti pot jappl mentioned (similar to the picture ). It works fine - she says she hasn't had a bad cold since she found the thing, and feels better in pollen season.

I tried it once or twice - there's a trick to them (jappl's pump looks more user-friendly) and my sinuses don't bother me much, so I don't bother, but they are a standard sort of thing in some circles and areas.

When I was younger I used to get some of the same effect from swimming in lakes, diving deep and so forth - clears the system. I swear we were meant to live on the beach.

jpappl
06-29-09, 03:02 PM
As needed? How do you know you need it? And what do you mean by this?

Well when you start feeling that itchy runny nose come on or the tell tale signs of allergies.

I get spring grass allergies and fall mold allergies so I tend to be prepared to use it more often then. Most of the year I don't need it.

But anytime I mow the lawn or am in the yard and around the weeds or after working around other contanamites like dust or sawdust I use it as a pre-caution.

As far as the congestion it creates, it's like after you have been swimming in a pool for awhile. Except it's more of a direct shot. It helps to keep things moving out of the sinuses. It's hard to explainwithout experiencing it.

Randwolf
06-29-09, 03:20 PM
WTF!!! They don't sell this product in the US, at least not that I've ever seen. Is it needed? What for?

Actually, there have been quite a few commercials on TV in the US recently for a similar "prepackaged" product: afrinpuresea (http://www.afrinpuresea.com/afrinpuresea/index.jsp?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=sinus%2Bcleansing&utm_campaign=methods&gclid=CMrsyO-msJsCFRlinAodDDQRDQ)

As to what good this does:
Wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nasal_irrigation) (with pics, remarkably similar to the one in your OP)

jpappl
06-29-09, 03:47 PM
Orly,

One other thing. These pump bottles sometimes come with a solution in it, you can use it up or just pour out and use salt water.

However, when you do start using salt water you have to be carefull not to use too much or your sinuses will feel a little dried out and if you use to little it tends to hurt a little when it goes in.

I have been doing it long enough to guess but there are mixture ingredients on the web, I think it was 1 teaspoon for every 2 cups or so. Not a lot.

He will be able to figure out how much is right after a little trial and error.

I don't normally put the baking soda in which I think helps smooth it out.

cosmictraveler
06-29-09, 03:54 PM
My husband has sinus infections every month. He has had 2 surgeries. I guess I'll tell him about this option.
How do you not cough and choke?

He would be allot better off with this...

http://www.allergyasthmatech.com/ProdImages/N7300.jpg

Sinus problems are insidious and can sometimes be misdiagnosed. A morning sinus headache is sometimes mistaken for a migraine. Clogged sinuses can lead to asthma and other breathing problems. Prescription drugs and over-the-counter decongestants and antihistamines help after the problems have peaked. A steam inhaler is a natural alternative to capsules and liquid decongestants. Available without a prescription, this device sends soothing steam to clear stuffy nasal passages.


http://www.essentialoils.co.za/steam-inhalation.htm

jpappl
06-29-09, 04:01 PM
He would be allot better off with this...

http://www.allergyasthmatech.com/ProdImages/N7300.jpg

Sinus problems are insidious and can sometimes be misdiagnosed. A morning sinus headache is sometimes mistaken for a migraine. Clogged sinuses can lead to asthma and other breathing problems. Prescription drugs and over-the-counter decongestants and antihistamines help after the problems have peaked. A steam inhaler is a natural alternative to capsules and liquid decongestants. Available without a prescription, this device sends soothing steam to clear stuffy nasal passages.


http://www.essentialoils.co.za/steam-inhalation.htm

This may help clear the passages but I don't think it will flush out the irritants. So it depends, in my case I have had success with the flushing out method since it is allergies that are the culprit.

cosmictraveler
06-29-09, 04:03 PM
This may help clear the passages but I don't think it will flush out the irritants.

If you have never tried it then how do you know it won't work? :shrug:

jpappl
06-29-09, 04:12 PM
If you have never tried it then how do you know it won't work? :shrug:

Well I haven't tried that one, but I have tried another of Vicks steamer inhaler and it didn't do anything and I sat there with it forever.

The pump is really inexpensive and is an aggressive approach to flush out the irritants. The steamers are more passive and I would imagine would help a head cold but allergies are different.

You need to get the irritants out so your body doesn't keep fighting it.

They also have water piks for the sinuses, they work better than the pump from what I understand but they you got buy a comparably expensive machine. The nice thing about them is they have a pulsating action which is better than just hitting the pump button real hard once.

But you can do the same thing with the pump by just gentle on/off action. It works great for me. The bottle and the salt are cheap.

Killjoy
07-01-09, 10:55 PM
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You could always just tilt your head back while taking a shower & let water flow into your nostrils, then just lower your head & blow it out once your schnozz is full.
heh.

I've even gotten to the point where I can just let the water flow through my nasal passages & into, then out of, my open mouth.

It does do wonders to remedy the effects of seasonal allergies, and nasal congestion in general.

WillNever
07-14-09, 01:55 PM
It does look like a genie lamp.

zaindapain
08-03-09, 11:29 AM
its a nasal spray right?

zaindapain
08-03-09, 11:29 AM
My teacher needed something like this
she got a spider stuck up her nose when she was sleeping. LOL