Sucide Averages

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  1. CutsieMarie89 Zen Registered Senior Member

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    I was curious after hearing about it in class, why do Caucasian and Native American males commit suicide more often than any other ethnicity? Is there some sort of cultural psychology behind it? On the flip side why are black females least likely to commit suicide?

    There is a chart in my Psychology text book showing this and it says the study was done in 2005 by the CDC. I'll post it when I get the chance to scan it. They don't have the complete study on their website.

    The rate of suicide in the United States is increasing for the first time in a decade, according to a new report from the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health's Center for Injury Research and Policy. The increase in the overall suicide rate between 1999 and 2005 was due primarily to an increase in suicides among whites aged 40-64, with white middle-aged women experiencing the largest annual increase. Whereas the overall suicide rate rose 0.7 percent during this time period, the rate among middle-aged white men rose 2.7 percent annually and 3.9 percent among middle-aged women. By contrast, suicide in blacks decreased significantly over the study's time period, and remained stable among Asian and Native Americans. The results are published online at the website of the American Journal of Preventive Medicine and will be published in the December print edition of the journal.

    This sort of mentions it too.
     
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  3. draqon Banned Banned

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    Well in United States while males loose the white females to rich dudes from all over the world, in addition to that white males are shy, so when the time hits for their puberty they realize that they got nothing to live for. And kill themselves.

    Or maybe in addition to the immoral women...who will only sleep with you if you had a car and a very good job not if you got a good heart or were in love with them...this might be a socialogical issue since white population is not as supportive to each other as the other "minority" groups, if whites have become a minority, I am sure the number of suicides would go down.
     
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  5. CutsieMarie89 Zen Registered Senior Member

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    Huh?

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  7. PieAreSquared Woo is resistant to reason Registered Senior Member

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    Or maybe in addition to the immoral women...who will only sleep with you if you had a car and a very good job

    don't get out much do ya dragon
     
  8. Stryder Keeper of "good" ideas. Valued Senior Member

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    I don't want this to sound like stereotyping however if a culture is more prone to murder one another or die through overdoses, then they'll likely not get to a point of Suicide.

    I guess what I'm implying and what would potentially undermine any misinterpretation is if the figures for those murdered or died through "Death by misadventure" where taken into consideration. What should also be taken into consideration is the forever increasing numbers of people, which increase each year.
     
  9. draqon Banned Banned

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    yes, my life is wasted.
     
  10. John99 Banned Banned

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    thats only the real hot ones. if theyre homely they wouldnt be so picky. if a good looking guy is a high achiever then he would most likely get a pretty woman who also had other things going for her.

    draqon, are you asian or caucasian?
     
  11. draqon Banned Banned

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    I am white.
     
  12. CutsieMarie89 Zen Registered Senior Member

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    But most African American women don't die because of overdoses or homicide. 73% of all suicide cases are white men (according to suicide.org 2005). I was just wondering if there was a certain cultural mentality imposed on white men or perhaps imposed on black women that made them commit or not commit suicide. I read one article that said black and Hispanic women have a much greater threshold for unbearable circumstances than white women. But I don't know I just noticed that there is a great discrepancy between the races, so I wondered why.
     
  13. John99 Banned Banned

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    how do they get these statistics?
     
  14. CutsieMarie89 Zen Registered Senior Member

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    police reports and medical records.
     
  15. John99 Banned Banned

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    yeah but that isnt entirely an accurate way to determine these rates. i am sure many suicides are viewed as accidents and recorded as such.

    you also have the 'specter of expectation' which can play a role in this. this is a sensitive subject so i am trying to be cautious.

    i am partially Caucasian and have low expectations so i am being subjective.
     
  16. draqon Banned Banned

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    suicides rates are obviously higher than those reported as many cases are undetermined.
     
  17. Stryder Keeper of "good" ideas. Valued Senior Member

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    Women can get pregnant and have children, this would make them less likely to commit suicide if they have a child to look after.
     
  18. Mr. Hamtastic whackawhackado! Registered Senior Member

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    I'd be more interested in a breakdown of what the reasons were for committing suicide. How many were situational? How many of those situations could be fixed? How many were done to "show them all"? How many were done by diagnosed psychiatric patients?

    As far as the cultural differences, consider for a moment some experiences. Don't black women generally learn to have a very high self-value? Followed by caucasian women, then by black men. White males, especially in the face of failure or shame, tend to retreat to suicide.

    My infatuation with it is strictly psychiatric in nature, personally. It's a desire to not hurt anyone that prevents me from doing it, personally. I wonder what people's reasons are for NOT doing it, if they have considered it.
     
  19. Stryder Keeper of "good" ideas. Valued Senior Member

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    The simplest reason for not doing it would be that it's Weak. It's weak because people see it as an easy solution to a problem, they don't take into consideration that they hurt friends and family and they definitely don't take into consideration that the problem was never solved while they were alive.

    If anything if there is a problem, people need to be less apathetic and step to the challenge, since beating it will grant you more rewards than death.
     
  20. draqon Banned Banned

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    well my reason for considering suicide was life not working out for me in general, which for me was inability to socialize, constant depression as a result. Big anxiety issues that pile up every time someone says something remarking me, or glances my way...In addition to that memories of my past really teared me apart.

    I would say that suicides are generally linked to inability to socialize, which results from parent's malpractice in raising a child.
     
  21. draqon Banned Banned

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    Actually, consideration for my family is what stopped me from doing it.

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    Also another thing that stops me is logical thought, if more suiciders actually thought logically instead of erratically, they would be alive now. With logic it is easily understood that one can die anyday they wish, so they got nothing to loose if they continue living, only something to gain in case life improves.

    Another thing that also stops me is porn on my laptop...seriously. I am thinking like this, I will kill myself, they will find my body, go into my room and see signs of depression everywhere where I lived and will find a laptop with porn on it. And my parents' will change the way they see me. This always bugs me off immedeately.
     
  22. Stryder Keeper of "good" ideas. Valued Senior Member

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    Well although sometimes you say some pointless stuff on this forum Draqon, I'm glad you didn't go and do anything stupid over the responses. You know that some of the things that depress people can just be down to their own perspective on life, I mean who'd want to hear someone troll on about how sh*t their life is? Just remember that if you are sat alone.

    *Think happy thoughts, Think happy thoughts*
     
  23. Oli Heute der Enteteich... Registered Senior Member

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    I doubt that very much - suicides are probably higher for adults (that are already socialised) than for teens.

    Again, a spurious point.
    Suicide comes when you can't see any improvement possible.

    I don't know whether to laugh or just shake my head in amazement.
     

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