I found this interesting article in NYT Margaret Chivers, of Queen's University, Ontario, studies the psychology of female sexuality. Her previous work was on bonobo sexuality and she filmed several hours of bonobos mating. To this, she added films of men and women in different sexual [heterosexual and homosexual] or sexualised[man walking nude on beach, women doing calsithenics in the nude] circumstances. Then she asked subjects to watch these clips and recorded their arousal. Arousal in men was measured by a condom like device that was slipped on the penis and recorded swelling. In the woman, by a probe that measured genital blood flow which initiates lubrication. All participants were also given a pad to record their feelings of arousal. In the men, the subjective [keypad record] measures of arousal matched closely with the objective [penile swelling] measures. Heterosexual men were aroused by straight and lesbian sex, gay men by gay male sex, but the bonobos sexual activity had no effect on straight or gay males. In the women, however, Chivers found a marked disconnect between the subjective and objective arousal. Regardless of whether it was men with men, men with women or women with women, the women showed strong objective arousal [as measured by lubrication]. A stronger response was seen with the exercising nude female than the walking nude male. And there was an increase in blood flow when they watched the apes, although it was lesser than the response to all the human scenes, except for the nude walking male. The reported feelings of arousal however, were somewhat similar to the men. Straight women reported little feeling when watching gay women, even less when watching gay men. Gay women reported little feeling when watching gay men. Neither reported any feeling when watching the apes. They're still trying to make sense of the data. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! edit: on further consideration, perhaps this should be in Human Science?
I like the monkeys over here. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Porno is so plastic. Everyone looks like they would rather be anywhere else but. Some of the vintage ones are better. Janine was quite funny. But lets talk about the Science aspect of it. I thought the disconnect quite interesting, any notions on the reasons for it?
` The answer is simple: Any reminder of sex whatever (involving humans, anyway) makes women want it, but they just can't admit it. I blame society. Where's my grant check ? Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
If you read the whole article, which I only paraphrased a part of in the interest of brevity, you can access information on other studies that have studied the effects of sexual clips on inhibition centers in the brain. In straight men who watched male-male sex or gay men who watched straight sex, these inhibition centers were not triggered. Similar results were also seen in women. Of course, this is all psychology and the effects of conditioning on biology may not be easily detected.
I guess it means there are more psychological limitations on what women THINK they should be aroused by. Its no secret that most women are bi-sexual even though they would not admit it...whereas very few men are bisexual. A women may prefer women, but she also knows she must mate and extract money from men to raise children...so she convinces herself that she is heterosexual. Even the Roman poet Juneval noticed this when he attended parties featuring erotic female dancers...the women at the party would be more aroused than the men!
"Neither reported any feeling when watching the apes. " I mean...did they see if the women/men had any sexual arousal from watching the cockroaches do it? what about jellyfish? and crocodiles?
what women want is kindness , understanding , support , trust , ability to listen to them , I mean just listen and attension and the sex will be teriffic give women this , they will give you back multifold of course the man expects the same thing back
Straight women I have known report arousal when viewing a single nude man doing things other than walking on the beach - in other words, comparing an exercising nude woman with a walking nude man is comparing apples with oranges. Also, the individual pictured is important - to many men, as well. The self-reports sound honest - I think many women in this culture actually don't know when they are aroused. The "discovery" of one's lesbian nature at a fairly late age - long past puberty - is almost a cliche. So is a woman's discovery that there is porn that is arousing. edit in: Lesbian women I have known freely admit to arousal by some gay male porn, as well as straight porn, and straight women I have known often prefer lesbian porn to straight. Are they sure they drew from a sociologically varied sample?
could it be though , if what your saying is true that " that many women in this culture actually don't know when they are aroused " is more about the attitude of men to women so that really men don't , generally , know how to make a women sensual and sexy ?
Those are all things women can get from their girlfriends...what women seek from men is PAYDIRT! Santa baby, slip a sable under the tree, for me I've been an awful good girl Santa baby, and hurry down the chimney tonight Santa baby, an out-of-space convertible too, light blue I'll wait up for you dear Santa baby, and hurry down the chimney tonight Think of all the fun I've missed Think of all the fellas that I haven't kissed Next year I could be oh so good If you'd check off my Christmas list Boo doo bee doo Santa honey, I wanna yacht and really that's Not a lot...I've been an angel all year Santa baby, and hurry down the chimney tonight Santa cutie, there's one thing I really do need, A deed...to a platinum mine Santa cutie, and hurry down the chimney tonight Santa baby, I'm filling my stocking with a duplex, and checks Sign your 'X' on the line Santa baby, and hurry down the chimney tonight Come and trim my Christmas tree With some decorations bought at Tiffany's I really do believe in you Let's see if you believe in me Boo doo bee doo Santa baby, forgot to mention one little thing A ring...I don't mean on the phone. Santa baby, and hurry down the chimney tonight http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=5ycWObpi73Y
your a naive fool Carcano, as I discover my sexual nature and my physical being I learn more of the foolish way with which I sought the world of women to be as.
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I think Draq was trying to say something poetic...and got all tangled up at the end. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
Now here is another study on gender perceptions of hunger vs recorded brain activity The scientists used positron emission tomography (PET) scanning to monitor brain activity in 13 female and 10 male volunteers. In this method, a form of glucose “tagged” with a radioactive tracer molecule is injected into the blood stream while subjects lie in the PET scanner. The scanner tracks the tracer’s signal to monitor the uptake and use of the glucose by various regions of the brain. All study subjects were of normal body weight and had fasted for nearly 20 hours before each of three separate scans, performed in random order. Each brain image shows the change in brain metabolism when subjects were asked to inhibit their response to food during food stimulation compared with when they were not told to inhibit their response. Two brain sections at different levels of the brain are shown for each group (women, men, and women vs. men). Top row, women: No color indicates that women had no significant differences in brain activity between the two conditions. Middle row, men: Blue colored areas were significantly less active when men were told to inhibit their response to food than they were without inhibition. Third row, women vs. men: Orange color indicates areas where men showed greater decrements with inhibition than women. These brain regions are involved in emotional regulation, conditioning, and the motivation to eat. On one scan day, subjects were presented with their favorite foods — from bacon-egg-and-cheese sandwiches to pizza, cinnamon buns, barbecue ribs, and chocolate cake — warmed, if appropriate, to enhance the enticing aromas and taste. During the scan, subjects were asked to smell, taste, observe, and react to the food, but not eat it. On another day, they were instructed to inhibit their desire for food prior to being tempted with the same foods. A control scan with no food was performed on another day. The volunteers were also asked to rate the foods and describe their feelings of hunger and their desire to eat during the scans when food was presented. In both men and women, a variety of brain areas associated with emotional regulation, conditioning, and motivation “lit up,” indicating increased metabolic activity in those regions, in response to the tempting foods when compared with the no-food scans — a finding consistent with earlier work using the same setup at Brookhaven Lab. When asked to inhibit their response to food, both men and women described themselves as less hungry and less interested in eating than when they weren’t trying to inhibit their response. But only the men showed a relative decrease in activity in the food-activated brain regions during the scan when they were asked to inhibit their response. “Even though the women said they were less hungry when trying to inhibit their response to the food, their brains were still firing away in the regions that control the drive to eat,” Wang said. “In contrast, men’s brain activity decreased along with their self-reports of hunger during the scan when they were asked to keep their hunger in check.” The researchers believe this is the first study to document such a gender-specific disconnect between subjective reports of an emotional or motivational state and the associated pattern of brain activity. http://www.bnl.gov/bnlweb/pubaf/pr/PR_display.asp?prID=876 Source: one raven So what does it mean???
To be honest, I think most of the time most women don't know exactly what they want. How could they when they go from mood to mood and change their minds so damn much?
uuuuum... You might wanna start with "how the universe was created". You will solve that question long before what women want.
