'You Know'

[PsychoticEpisode]

Is there anything more maddening than hearing a person being interviewed start every sentence with the words 'you know'? You know, why do people do that? You know, I don't know. You know, I think that assuming I know might mean that the interviewee may think I already know what's going to be said. You know, it may be because the same questions get asked by interviewers time and again .

[draqon]

when someone uses "you know", they are trying to tell the other person that they are unsure and need the other person to know that they need their help and understanding.

[draqon]

we should always think about other people and their desires, instead of thinking about ourselves and how things annoy us. We should focus on making the lives of other for the better.

[PsychoticEpisode]

we should always think about other people and their desires, instead of thinking about ourselves and how things annoy us. We should focus on making the lives of other for the better.

You know, Bin Laden annoys me. You know, I think you can help him. You know , thanks for the pearls of wisdom. You know, not what I was expecting.

[draqon]

You know, Bin Laden annoys me. You know, I think you can help him. You know , thanks for the pearls od wisdom. You know, not what I was expecting.

you are insecure about yourself.
Talk about BinLaden is just a way to hide that insecurity.

[Killjoy]

when someone uses "you know", they are trying to tell the other person that they are unsure and need the other person to know that they need their help and understanding.
I think they're asking desperately for a dum-dum round right in the, you know - forehead...

we should always think about other people and their desires, instead of thinking about ourselves and how things annoy us. We should focus on making the lives of other for the better.
That principle guides my every desire to put people out of their misery.

That it would benefit me is merely coincidental.

:D

[draqon]

That principle guides my every desire to put people out of their misery.

That it would benefit me is merely coincidental.

:D

by putting people out of the misery you mean helping them live their lives to the full, right...killJoy?

[Killjoy]

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Well... I fully want to, you know - help them out of their lives.

[draqon]

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Well... I fully want to, you know - help them out of their lives.

fully...you mean commit fully your life to benefit every moment of life of others? Help them with chores of daily life. correct?

[Killjoy]

fully...you mean commit fully your life to benefit every moment of life of others? Help them with chores of daily life. correct?

Yes, Yes...

I want to, you know - mix them a nice cup of "special" tea and all like that there...

[draqon]

Yes, Yes...

I want to, you know - mix them a nice cup of "special" tea and all like that there...

by special tea you mean chamomile, green, black tea, sort of a thing, right?

[Killjoy]

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I was thinking, you know - thallium...

Is that green or black ?

:confused:

[Asguard]

killjoy thats not very nice, thallium takes WAY to long to work:p. IV potassium chloride is MUCH more effective:p

[tim840]

i think when people say "you know" they are confirming that the person they are talking to knows what they are saying, but they are not sure. like "you know, that's probably not going to work."

[Asguard]

I HATE how people use "LIKE"

the correct term is "for example" abrivated to "eg"

[CarpetDiem]

Is there anything more maddening than hearing a person being interviewed start every sentence with the words 'you know'? You know, why do people do that? You know, I don't know. You know, I think that assuming I know might mean that the interviewee may think I already know what's going to be said. You know, it may be because the same questions get asked by interviewers time and again .

Methinks the words "you know" and 'sometimes' are interchangeable ;)

i think when people say "you know" they are confirming that the person they are talking to knows what they are saying, but they are not sure. like "you know, that's probably not going to work."

You know, I agree

I HATE how people use "LIKE"

the correct term is "for example" abrivated to "eg"

I know what you mean, especially when they say "You know, like, um......:)

[Asguard]

you do realise my pose was a dig at tim840 dont you?
that being said it does irritate the hell out of me. Everytime i here "you know" and "like" used in that manner i get pitures of stupid blond yanky cheerleaders in my head. I want to talk to people with brains rather airheads

[Fraggle Rocker]

Is there anything more maddening than hearing a person being interviewed start every sentence with the words 'you know'?I pay attention to that sort of thing. It seems that "you know" is a specific phrase that people use to cut themselves off when they've lost the thread of what they were trying to say, and start off with a new sentence, on firmer ground. There are other interjections of that nature that are signals of insecurity amid a hostile or socially or organizationally superior audience. People who are confident and just can't think as fast as they talk are often the ones who just say "uhhhhhh."

Saul Bellow, one of the most articulate American writers and a Nobel laureate, was just dreadful to listen to in a live lecture. He was so careful about phrasing his sentences perfectly that he had to stop and think after every third word, and just stood there at the lectern going "uhhhhhhh."I HATE how people use "LIKE" the correct term is "for example" abrivated to "eg"I thought for a minute you were referring to the 1970s American interjection. "I'm, like, coming down the stairs, and my mom, like, sees me and she goes (another annoying Valley Girl expression) 'Why aren't you in school?' and I'm, like, 'Mom, there's a big sale at the mall today,' and then we, like, have this big fight, and my dad, like, walks in..."

"Like," used the way you describe, is perfectly acceptable in informal speech. No one says "for example" unless they're giving a presentation. And only a pompous academic would actually say "e.g." in speech.

However, we have lost track of the proper usage of "like" versus "as." In the 1950s there was a huge cigarette advertising campaign, "Winston tastes good, like a cigarette should." A few people reminded us that it's supposed to be "as a cigarette should." Those of us who were educated in the old days can usually decide intuitively which word is appropriate, but even I would have to look it up Strunk & White before I could explain it to you in terms of grammatical rules.

[tim840]

I HATE how people use "LIKE"

the correct term is "for example" abrivated to "eg"

well sorry, its not my fault that i grew up with this dialect... thats just how we talk in southern california, no one notices or cares here. besides, its not like it doesnt make sense. you know what people mean when they say that. youre just nitpicking...

[CatherineW]

Surely "you know" is just "did/do you know" that has been shortened...

"you know what really annoys me..."
"do you know what really annoys me..."

[visceral_instinct]

It does indeed irritate me, especially being mildly ASD.

killjoy thats not very nice, thallium takes WAY to long to work:p. IV potassium chloride is MUCH more effective:p

What exactly does thallium do to you?

[Cyperium]

I HATE how people use "LIKE"

the correct term is "for example" abrivated to "eg"Why is it abrivated to eg? Wouldn't ex be better?

Ex: ex

look!

[temur]

This is an abbreviation of exempli gratiā, a Latin phrase.

[Asguard]

VI, watch the episode of NCIS called "DOA", its reasonably accurate.

Basically the effects of thallium (especially radioactive thallium) are what you tipically imagin radiation sickness to be. Loss of hair, vomiting, killing white blood cells, loss of fluids ect. I belive its what was used to kill that russian in the UK. As far as i know the reason its so dangerious is that it can be absorbed straight through the skin. The only treatmen is prussion blue

Pottassium is just as leathal (if not more so) but unlike thallium OUTSIDE the body its compleatly harmless as it is if injested.

[Fraggle Rocker]

Surely "you know" is just "did/do you know" that has been shortened...
"you know what really annoys me..."
"do you know what really annoys me..."I think it's really:Aren't you just dying to know what really annoys me? You've got no choice, since I'm going to tell you anyway.:)

[MacGyver1968]

I tell you what, I hate when people use "you know" :)

[Fraggle Rocker]

I tell you what, I hate when people use "you know."Have you ever heard two of them nested?"You know... (y'know)... what this project needs is more input from the stakeholders..."

[CatherineW]

I think it's really:Aren't you just dying to know what really annoys me? You've got no choice, since I'm going to tell you anyway.:)

haha :p

[Cyperium]

haha :plol

[Cyperium]

This is an abbreviation of exempli gratiā, a Latin phrase.Why do we need to use abbeviations from greece or latin?

..and how are we expected to spell abbrivitation?

(and my teacher told me I ask stupid questions F*K not)

[Fraggle Rocker]

Why do we need to use abbeviations from Greek or Latin?We don't use Greek abbreviations. Greek words are written in the Greek alphabet. Most people can't read or write it any more, and even if they could it's a hassle to reconfigure your keyboard. :)

Latin was the first language to be written in the Latin alphabet (duh!) so the monks who were doing all the writing developed abbreviations for common scholarly expressions as a way of making their jobs easier. Before the invention of the printing press most people had no need to be able to read and write, so it was all up to the monks and government officials.

When the Roman Empire collapsed, Latin continued to be the language of scholarship so scholars kept using those abbreviations. When the printing press was invented, people who never learned Latin learned to read and write, so a significant amount of material began to be printed in other languages. But by then the old abbreviations had been so thoroughly established for 1500 years, that scholars kept using them and so did printers. Nobody bothered inventing abbreviations for the equivalent terms in their national languages.

Today we have a choice, and many English phrases have replaced the Latin ones, or at least stand side by side. We can say "and so forth" instead of et cetera, "in other words" instead of id est, "for example" instead of exempla gratia, "and others" instead of et alii. But we have still never bothered to invent abbreviations for those terms. We still write etc., i.e., e.g., and et al. "Et cetera" is so well known that we actually read it in Latin, but hardly anybody knows what the others stand for, so we usually translate them into English when we say them out loud.

In writing you're free to use "for example" and "and so forth" instead of the Latin abbreviations, and many writers do. But there are still no abbreviations for them in English. You have to write the whole words out.

That's why we use the Latin abbreviations. It's easier than writing the words out. :)

Of course if you speak German you've got it made. They compulsively translate practically everything into German. Instead of etc., Germans write usw for und so weiter.

[temur]

Don't we translate "i.e." as "that is"?

[LilyCao]

:p Sorry, I don't know. lol:

[Fraggle Rocker]

Don't we translate "i.e." as "that is"?That's a literal translation of id est. But in vernacular speech, and even in non-academic writing, we often say/write the figure of speech "in other words" instead.

But either way is okay. What is NOT okay is that perhaps most people don't know the difference between "i.e." and "e.g." After "i.e.", you provide a word or phrase that is an exact equivalent or definition of the original, which could even be a short, complete list. After "e.g.," you give one or more examples; a short list but NOT a complete list.